Transfer Discussion Thread

[Bostonian]

Liverpool had a 30% one in their deal

Haven't seen that reported anywhere.

Any kind of sell on % after paying that much seems like a huge win for the selling team though.

 

[Zidane98]

Liverpool had a 30% one in their deal

No we didn't.

 

[Zidane98]

Fab was saying on youtube that its pretty much done. Sorry mate. Reddy has sound to be quite the Red over the last few days.

To me Chelsea have had his heart since May and just assumed it'd happen eventually.

Liverpool have secretly been planning a late bid and have gone in ghungho at the last minute thinking we wouldnt match. And then thought it wouldnt be a problem getting Caicedo to choose them after we pulled out.

But Caicedo has wanted Chelsea since May and hes not Interested in Liverpool. So all youve done is bump up the price.

The only winners here are Caicedo and Brighton.

This isn't even close to reality. Caicedo agreed a deal with Liverpool. FSG aren't putting in a record bid without agreement from the player side. Chelsea have come back with a higher bid and better personal terms. Obviously FFP wise we can outspend pretty much any club in the PL atm but as it stands have not improved their offer to beat Chelsea's. Reckon we are looking elsewhere now but keeping our bid on the table knowing your FFP problems.

 

[Jaymin]

It’s like a sinking ship. Sinisterra is joining Gnonto in refusing to play. Young striker Perkins not turning up for training and some reports Summerville also wanting out.

 

[Loonerty]

Very much not a fan of the Kepa plan. Mostly that it's happening a day before our first game of the season.

 

[chef]

Haven't seen that reported anywhere.

Any kind of sell on % after paying that much seems like a huge win for the selling team though.

Yeah Reddy mentioned their was sell-on clause, not sure the actual number just what was rumoured.

 

[SM]

Haven't seen that reported anywhere.

Any kind of sell on % after paying that much seems like a huge win for the selling team though.

Does it? Sell on %s are usually based on profit.

 

[moomba]

Ok so you have your answer then.

Do I?

My question was "does Chelsea get any exemption or relief due to having new ownership".

Not sure how player sales and length of contract answers that but there you go.

 

[SM]

Do I?

My question was "does Chelsea get any exemption or relief due to having new ownership".

Not sure how player sales and length of contract answers that but there you go.

Of course they don't, it was a flippant question.

If you meant it seriously then you're far dumber than you've ever demonstrated previously.

 

[moomba]

Obviously FFP wise we can outspend pretty much any club in the PL atm.

It's not obvious at all.

 

[moomba]

Of course they don't, it was a flippant question.

If you meant it seriously then you're far dumber than you've ever demonstrated previously.

A bit of unnecessary aggression over a pretty simple question, everything OK?

I know the UEFA rules were changed a few years back to allow a new ownership some relief from FFP in the first few years, just wasn't sure if the same applied to premier league ffp.

 

[SM]

A bit of unnecessary aggression over a pretty simple question, everything OK?

I know the UEFA rules were changed a few years back to allow a new ownership some relief from FFP in the first few years, just wasn't sure if the same applied to premier league ffp.

I'm fine lol, it was a moronic question and it was pretty clear it was just a flippant comment. I have no idea why you're now trying to pretend it was serious.

 

[moomba]

I'm fine lol, it was a moronic question and it was pretty clear it was just a flippant comment. I have no idea why you're now trying to pretend it was serious.

Because it was a serious question.

But I can see its not really worth carrying on, so let's move on from here as well.

 

[SM]

Because it was a serious question.

But I can see its not really worth carrying on, so let's move on from here as well.

Looks like you're having a bit of a mare today, might need another coffee.

 

[jod23]

The old classic when you dont agree with SM, you're instantly having a mare.

Im off to a good start on my BigFooty Bingo card this season!

 

[SM]

The old classic when you dont agree with SM, you're instantly having a mare.

Im off to a good start on my BigFooty Bingo card this season!

Please stop piling on, or Soz will come in to have a word with you.

 

[chef]

 

[moomba]

Wonder if that means he's agreed a January sale.

 

[Zidane98]

It's not obvious at all.

It really is. The last time we had a big net spend was the 2018 window.

Amortization (your favourite chestnut) is bugger all for us.

Allison - 0
Kelleher - 0
Trent - 0
Virgil - 0
Konate -8m
Tsimikas - 2m
Matip - 0
Jones - 0
Bajcetic - 0
Morton - 0
Macalister - 7m
Szoboszlai - 12m
Thiago - 4m
Elliot - 800k
Jota - 8m
Diaz - 8m
Nunez - 13m
Gakpo - 8m
Salah - 0

Many of our player sales in recent years have been players who's full value has been realised (Fabinho / Henderson), youth products or players who have a low book value (Manes book value 7m - sold for 30m). Helps when freebies like Matip / Milner plus cheap buys like Robertson / Thiago have been mainstays of the side.

We are in profit over FY 20/21 & 21/22 - despite covid effects. Would say our 22/23 books will be quite healthy when released also.

This, combined with our turnover sees maybe only Spurs after selling Kane better placed FFP wise this summer.

This of course presumes that owners are willing to spend their allowance. FSG clearly aren't interested in doing that where Chelsea are the opposite end of the scale in that regard.

 

[Zidane98]

Of course. Freezing out was never a realistic option.

 

[moomba]

It really is. The last time we had a big net spend was the 2018 window.

Amortization (your favourite chestnut) is bugger all for us.

Allison - 0
Kelleher - 0
Trent - 0
Virgil - 0
Konate -8m
Tsimikas - 2m
Matip - 0
Jones - 0
Bajcetic - 0
Morton - 0
Macalister - 7m
Szoboszlai - 12m
Thiago - 4m
Elliot - 800k
Jota - 8m
Diaz - 8m
Nunez - 13m
Gakpo - 8m
Salah - 0

Many of our player sales in recent years have been players who's full value has been realised (Fabinho / Henderson), youth products or players who have a low book value (Manes book value 7m - sold for 30m). Helps when freebies like Matip / Milner plus cheap buys like Robertson / Thiago have been mainstays of the side.

We are in profit over FY 20/21 & 21/22 - despite covid effects. Would say our 22/23 books will be quite healthy when released also.

This, combined with our turnover sees maybe only Spurs after selling Kane better placed FFP wise this summer.

This of course presumes that owners are willing to spend their allowance. FSG clearly aren't interested in doing that where Chelsea are the opposite end of the scale in that regard.

Net spend isn't a figure that is seen in accounts or FFP returns. Your amortisation plus wages is at the top end of the league. Your profits aren't huge.

I'm sure that you've got room for spending as far as FFP goes, but others would have more.

 

[QuietB]

Net spend isn't a figure that is seen in accounts or FFP returns. Your amortisation plus wages is at the top end of the league. Your profits aren't huge.

I'm sure that you've got room for spending as far as FFP goes, but others would have more.

Brighton would have a bit

 

[Zidane98]

Net spend isn't a figure that is seen in accounts or FFP returns. Your amortisation plus wages is at the top end of the league. Your profits aren't huge.

I'm sure that you've got room for spending as far as FFP goes, but others would have more.

I'll have to dig up the thread on twitter but our wage bill has been cut by something like 8-900k / week this season. Some big name departures and plenty of youth players promoted to the senior squad on small wages.

Prediction for our financials is a profit of 76m - despite a poor season:

Liverpool could be set for record £602m figure as Man Utd finally surpassed

A report from analysts at Off The Pitch has forecasted the financial situation for clubs across the 2021/22 accounting period

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

Amortisation is definitely not at the top end of the league after this summer. Konate, Gakpo, Diaz, Nunez & Jota are the only high value players on our books that are not fully realised apart from our 2 new signings Mac (7m) & Soz (12m). We actually are ahead with departures of Firmino (5m), Ox (7m) and Keita (10m). Not to mention we just sold 52m of fully realised assets in Henderson / Fabinho.


All other squad members are either free / low priced transfers, fully realised on our books or youth products.


We're in a fantastic position in that regard and could easily afford to add 2 100m pound players if needed this window with ease FFP wise - even on the standard 5 year contract at 20m / season.

 

[Zidane98]

Brighton would have a bit

They rely on profit to survive though so don't expect them to spend big even if they get 120m from Chelsea for Caicedo. I'd say they would scout some prospects and sign a few at 10-20m each.

 

[moomba]

I'll have to dig up the thread on twitter but our wage bill has been cut by something like 8-900k / week this season. Some big name departures and plenty of youth players promoted to the senior squad on small wages.

Prediction for our financials is a profit of 76m - despite a poor season:

Liverpool could be set for record £602m figure as Man Utd finally surpassed

A report from analysts at Off The Pitch has forecasted the financial situation for clubs across the 2021/22 accounting period

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

Amortisation is definitely not at the top end of the league after this summer. Konate, Gakpo, Diaz, Nunez & Jota are the only high value players on our books that are not fully realised apart from our 2 new signings Mac (7m) & Soz (12m). We actually are ahead with departures of Firmino (5m), Ox (7m) and Keita (10m). Not to mention we just sold 52m of fully realised assets in Henderson / Fabinho.


All other squad members are either free / low priced transfers, fully realised on our books or youth products.


We're in a fantastic position in that regard and could easily afford to add 2 100m pound players if needed this window with ease FFP wise - even on the standard 5 year contract at 20m / season.

You've lost Fabinio, Milner, Henderson, Firminho, Keita and Oxlade-Chamberlain.

You've bought in Szoboslai and McAllister.

I reckon you might have shed £8-900k on outgoings, but the two ins aren't playing for peanuts.

Anyway, it's irrelevant, I'm sure you do have room for new signings. Caicedo is a pretty big hint at that (£30m+ amortisation and wages each year).

You won't be close to the most room to move though.