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Carvalho > Terry

Alex is good player though but you fear that hes a bit too similar to Terry in the way he plays. I wouldnt mind seeing how Paolo Ferriera goes centrally. We all know hes awful at passing but he can defend well enough
no disputing that Carvalho > Terry and the Alex and Terry are too similar.

I've said that countless times before. probably about the slowest central defensive pairing in history when they play together.

bosingwa and ashley cole are very speedy and will compensate in the possiblility of the pairing but one suspects Chelsea have to buy someone good enough to start. (not necessarily to start)

and you're 100% right about Ferreira. absolutely abysmal at right back when going forward. he's afforded acres of space time after time on the right flank because every time he gets the ball he repels Chelsea's attack.
thankfully, through his four years at Chelsea he's been a solid and reliable defender.
I'd like Villa to try to sign him but I don't think he'll leave.
 
no disputing that Carvalho > Terry and the Alex and Terry are too similar.

I've said that countless times before. probably about the slowest central defensive pairing in history when they play together.

bosingwa and ashley cole are very speedy and will compensate in the possiblility of the pairing but one suspects Chelsea have to buy someone good enough to start. (not necessarily too start)

and you're 100% right about Ferreira. absolutely abysmal at right back when going forward. he's afforded acres of space time after time on the right flank because every time he gets the ball he repels Chelsea's attack.
thankfully, through his four years at Chelsea he's been a solid and reliable defender.
I'd of liked Villa to have tried to sign him but I don't think he'd leave.

Who could they buy though. The world isnt exactly littered with fast CBs. Ones good enough to play for Chelsea anyway. Apart from Vincent Kompany i cant think of many more worthy of joining Chelsea or ones who would let their players join Chelsea. Maybe Micah Richards if the price was stupid
 
Who could they buy though. The world isnt exactly littered with fast CBs. Ones good enough to play for Chelsea anyway. Apart from Vincent Kompany i cant think of many more worthy of joining Chelsea or ones who would let their players join Chelsea. Maybe Micah Richards if the price was stupid
That's their problem.

And I'm not suggesting they need a super quick central defender just someone who can outrun their shadow.

Micah Richards would probably the best option for them.
Particularly with the possibility of that 6+5 thing coming in.
 

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Anyway, as a matter of interest guys how do we see the perceived 5-10 teams looking at this point?

Those being;

Everton
Aston Villa
Tottenham
Manchester City
Portsmouth
Newcastle

What do these teams still need to stay ahead of the other?

Wheres West Ham ;)

Tottenham is the best by a MILE in that lot. All they need is a LW/LB (depends where Bale plays). Aston Villa are gonna fall behind. Replacing Barry with Sidwell :o. Still no new RB in. A squad of 15 with the Intertoto Cup coming up to im led to believe. Gonna be some very tired boys come the end of the year if the squad doesnt atleast double in size.

Too earlt for Portsmouth, Newcastle. I still think another 20 million pound signing is coming in for Man City. Probably a DCM like Veleso
 
Aston Villa

Like Embers said, the squad was the smallest in the Premiership last season. (fact)
and now Villa have already lost - Luke Moore, Carson, Mellberg, Sorensen, Barry (likely) and Berger.

With there also being a very good chance that Shaun Moloney might leave as well.

And Villa really haven't signed anybody yet. Curtis Davies was with the side last season and him being included doesn't mean any +1 to the players in from last season.

So the smallest squad from last season minus five players. Even last season with the squad size, 3 or 4 injuries to starting/key players and Villa were gone. without the replacements of quality and without anything resembling squad quantity. so that was bad enough and Villa were very fortunate with injuries. very lucky not to have been exposed.

and now.... five players less. Villa need more players in their squad than last season which unfortunately probably won't happen. so Villa will be relying on a ridiculously lucky injury run again. imagine Villa with half of West Ham's injuries? they'd be forced to play 12 year olds. Villa need to bring in about double what they lose. and that would mean double figures. almost unprecedented numbers. the number of required is as it is though - and not even close to an exaggeration. Villa won't sign that many though. or more so MON won't. and then he'll note next season every chance he gets how small Villa's squad is.

anyway, to the list of realistic/likely targets who I wouldn't be unhappy to see Villa sign.

Linked players:

http://www.avfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/TransferSpeculation/0,,10265,00.html

Goalkeepers (the realistic targets and the ones I'd like to see Villa go in for)

Robinson
Guzan
Boruc
Fulop

So Villa need two goalkeepers.
It's really a case of one of either Robinson or Boruc.
And one of either Fulop or Guzan.

A first choice keeper and a second choice keeper.
A Robinson + Guzan combo would probably be the best option. considering price.

Defenders:

Villa need a right back, another central defender and back-up left back and probably one more young defender.

So four really.

attainable links I wouldn't mind;

Chimbonda
Mendy
van Buyten
Nelson
Hoyte
Seitaridis
Finnan
Simek
Miguel
Anton Ferdinand
Naylor

- just to explain a few of these.

Naylor is rubbish from what I hear. but that considered Villa need squad depth. a cheap option who can sit on the bench/not play.
Anton Ferdinand would go alright next to Lauren. I'd go after him.
Miguel used to be one of my favourite players. probably still is.
Simek would be a good, cheap option for a team needing squad numbers. a quality young player I believe. would be perfect for Villa.
Finnan be an excellent player to get in the Barry deal.
Hoyte is ok. for a cheap price he'd provide some squad depth and could compete with Finnan to play on the right/as a back up central defender.
Seitaridis and Nelson. Two experienced quality defenders. Can't go wrong there.
van Buyten - would go alright next to Laursen. although I'm not sure they'd make the best partnership. much prefer Anton.
Mendy - cheap option. back-up right back. if he plays well and warrants more game time then he'll get it.
Chimbonda - not sure where all hate comes from. he's still better than alot of right backs in England.
 
Midfielders:

Pedro Mendes
Jermaine Pennant
Steve Sidwell
James Milner
David Bentley
Zolton Gera
Steed Malbranque

There really isn't much there. Villa already have a decent midfield but some of the targets linked are really not attainable players.

There's a few Spanish based players I haven't included who have been linked and are probably attainable but the ones above are the most likely signings.

Villa probably need about 3 of 4 midfield players. Could probably get away with 3 good signings.

Bentley is about a 15% chance imo. I don't think it will happen.
Malbranque would be a good signing. He'd fit in well and wouldn't be overpriced.
Has Gera signed for Everton yet? If he hasn't he'd provide good squad quality.
Milner - I'm not a big fan but he'd be ok. As with Pennant. However in Milner's case it seems that he's ridiculously overpriced. Pennant + Finnan + 8 mil from Liverpool for Barry maybe?
Steve Sidwell + Pedro Mendes. Lets face it, Sidwell will sign for Villa. Signing a guy like Mendes who is pretty much surplus to requirements at Portsmouth these days would be a good move.

Strikers

Doyle
Gudjohnsen
Bent
Diouf

Villa need one striker. I know Diouf isn't a striker but they have him listed as that on the Villa website. I'd prefer him to Pennant but he'd probably be a bit more expensive. More than he's worth.

Doyle is the most likely from the other three but Gudjohnsen is attainable and plays his best football behind the strikers. Agbonlahor could still start up front alongside Carew. He'd be an excellent guy to sign.

Darren Bent could be signing for Sunderland. Considering that even Hull's a chance to sign him! :p
 
Not much has changed for City. On paper we have a better striker, but only time will tell whether he will do well for us or not. If he does score goals it will put us right into the frame for 5th or 6th, maybe even higher.

We're still short at left back (Zhirkov), central midfield (Annan), right wing (SWP), and a fat Brazilian playing a free role (can't think of who). If we can't find any fat Brazilians willing to sign for us I think we need a creative type to take a bit of pressure of Elano and

Isaksson has gone and Schmeichel probably isn't too far behind, so an experienced backup to Hart (Sorenson) will be needed.

The rest will depend on the formation and the style of football Hughes will want to play. A bit like last year, no-one really has a clue whether we'll succeed or fail.

Of the rest no-one has really kicked off their transfer window spending except for Spurs, and they're scum so they don't count. ;)
 
So....

Robinson + Fulop/Guzan/any unknown keeper able to be 2nd/3rd choice.

Should cost about 5-6 million combined. No more.

Two keepers in. Easy and that.

Done. :thumbsu:

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Justin Hoye, Simek, Finnan and Naylor.

Cheap and easy.

I don't even know where Naylor plays but he won't cost much/anything. He might even be swapped for Moloney which would be very unfortunate.

Finnan would be free as part of the Barry deal. If we didn't get him as part of that then we wouldn't get him at all.

Simek wouldn't cost much. I don't know enough about him? someone?
And while you're at it - tell me about Naylor.
Either way - the net cost so far would only be about 2-3 million.

Justin Hoyte. Not required at Arsenal. And he's versatile. Able to cover right back and central defence. If he signed;

Finnan/Hoye at right back.
Central defenders - Laursen, Davies, Hoyte and Knight. I don't mind that.

Wouldn't only cost about 2 million.

See folks - you don't have to spend much! You all want these extravagant and expensive transfer targets when you only need to concentrate on addressing your teams needs.

Total cost for defenders - 4-5 million.

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Malbranque, Sidwell, Mendes, Milner (if Villa lose Moloney).

How much will Malbranque cost? Surely no more than 3 or 4 million?

Sidwell will end up costing Villa about 5 million. I'm no in favour of signing him but it seems 90% likely that he'll be lining up in a Villa shirt come next season so he must be included.

Mendes won't cost much. 2 million at most really.

10-11 million spent there.

And 15-16 million if Milner was signed.
I'd prefer Gera on the cheap though. Hopefully O'Neill sees common sense as well.

Considering we'll get at least 15 million for Barry + the money already received for Moore - under my recommendations Villa have yetto really spend any money. :thumbsu:

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As for the one striker, he may cost a bit. I'd go after Gudjohnsen. If Villa were unsuccessful with him then try and sign Darren Bent. If not him then Doyle would be ok, I guess.

Gudjohnsen will probably cost upwards of 6 million.
 
Not much has changed for City. On paper we have a better striker, but only time will tell whether he will do well for us or not. If he does score goals it will put us right into the frame for 5th or 6th, maybe even higher.

We're still short at left back (Zhirkov), central midfield (Annan), right wing (SWP), and a fat Brazilian playing a free role (can't think of who). If we can't find any fat Brazilians willing to sign for us I think we need a creative type to take a bit of pressure of Elano and

Isaksson has gone and Schmeichel probably isn't too far behind, so an experienced backup to Hart (Sorenson) will be needed.

The rest will depend on the formation and the style of football Hughes will want to play. A bit like last year, no-one really has a clue whether we'll succeed or fail.

Of the rest no-one has really kicked off their transfer window spending except for Spurs, and they're scum so they don't count. ;)
not to forget Castillo and Bojinov.

they're both new signings. unquestionably.

I like Manchester City. a couple of those names you mentioned brought in and 5th is an achievable goal.
 
Midfielders:

Pedro Mendes
Jermaine Pennant
Steve Sidwell
James Milner
David Bentley
Zolton Gera
Steed Malbranque

There really isn't much there. Villa already have a decent midfield but some of the targets linked are really not attainable players.

There's a few Spanish based players I haven't included who have been linked and are probably attainable but the ones above are the most likely signings.

Villa probably need about 3 of 4 midfield players. Could probably get away with 3 good signings.

Bentley is about a 15% chance imo. I don't think it will happen.
Malbranque would be a good signing. He'd fit in well and wouldn't be overpriced.
Has Gera signed for Everton yet? If he hasn't he'd provide good squad quality.
Milner - I'm not a big fan but he'd be ok. As with Pennant. However in Milner's case it seems that he's ridiculously overpriced. Pennant + Finnan + 8 mil from Liverpool for Barry maybe?
Steve Sidwell + Pedro Mendes. Lets face it, Sidwell will sign for Villa. Signing a guy like Mendes who is pretty much surplus to requirements at Portsmouth these days would be a good move.

Strikers

Doyle
Gudjohnsen
Bent
Diouf

Villa need one striker. I know Diouf isn't a striker but they have him listed as that on the Villa website. I'd prefer him to Pennant but he'd probably be a bit more expensive. More than he's worth.

Doyle is the most likely from the other three but Gudjohnsen is attainable and plays his best football behind the strikers. Agbonlahor could still start up front alongside Carew. He'd be an excellent guy to sign.

Darren Bent could be signing for Sunderland. Considering that even Hull's a chance to sign him! :p

Which Doyle is that?
 

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Anyway, as a matter of interest guys how do we see the perceived 5-10 teams looking at this point?

Those being;

Everton
Aston Villa
Tottenham
Manchester City
Portsmouth
Newcastle

What do these teams still need to stay ahead of the other?

Man City, depending on further purchases, should have the quality to be the best of the rest.

A lot depends on Big Jo (I love that name). He has much to live up to, after being bought for what is an inflated fee. Seems to have real quality though. He'll need it. He'll be a pivotal player. Maybe their most key player.

Probably need some bolstering in defence. Corluka + Richards + Dunne are excellent defenders. Onuoha will be a valuable asset, real talent. Potentially better than Richards IMO, just without the hype. Garrido looked a bit suspect though from what I saw. So another LB could be in order.

What is Castillo's situation? Will he join permanently? Where will he play too?

Midfield has options. Johnson, Ireland Elano, Petrov, Fernandes, Didi (how long can he keep performing at a high level), potentially Castillo could play here too I guess.

Will Benjani stay?

The previously mentioned Big Jo, Benjani, Caceido (only young, but 0 in 10 isn't a great start, can he be relied upon to deliver the goods?), and Castillo. Darius is there too I guess, although is he a chance to be packing his bags and hitting the road?

If Benjani stays, there's probably enough to get by without big bad Darius. (and do reasonably well). Remembering you would expect Sturridge to get a few games aswell.

Joe Hart looked the goods, but with Isaksson leaving, a 2nd/3rd choice goalie is required one would think.


So for me the priorities are, a left back, backup goalkeeper, probably a wide player (probably right sided, but it depends where Castillo will be utilised), and another central midfield player wouldn't hurt either.

They've got the coin to rectify the small issues, so I'd expect them to do this. If so, and Hughes can get the team to gel, they're going to be a seriously strong outfit, and I can see, and probably expect them to be, finishing 5th.
 
If Tottenham hold on to Berbatov and get a decent DM they'll be the best team outside the big 4. They might even challenge Liverpool for 4th which wouldn't surprise me.

From a West Ham point of view I have NFI why we haven't sold one of Collins/Davenport, Zamora, LBM, Gabbidon and Bowyer by now, surely we could get at least 12m from selling those 4, we have so much deadwood on our list it isn't funny.

I'd like to see a decent LW brought in, we have the right side covered provided Dyer and Faubert stay fit (If Neill goes Faubert can play RB) but on the left we have McCartney who is a much improved LB but he has no-one to link up with.

Our CB pairing of Upson and Ferdinand worked very well last season and they complimented each other beautifully, unfortunately Upson is injury prone and it would be folly to say he won't get injured at some point next season.

In midfield if Parker stays fit it will be a big boost for us, he's a very good player but after him we have Noble who has shown he'll be a quality player but we don't really have a decent no.10 type of player, that's why I'd be happy to bring Gudjohnsen in as he can play that role or as a striker.

Up front if Ashton has massive potential and started to show it towards the end of last season, however he needs to stay fit, hungry and get some reasonable service from midfield. Bellamy is a wildcard and I'll be extremely happy if he's fit for most of the season, as he would work very well in theory with Ashton.

After a nightmare injury run last season I don't see why we can't at least equal our finish of 10th last season, I'd say we could finish anywhere between 7th-12th this season and I'll take a stab and say we'll be 9th.
 
Man City, depending on further purchases, should have the quality to be the best of the rest.

Depending on Ronaldinho. Without him they're still 2 or 3 signings short of being competitive with a few of the others.

A lot depends on Big Jo (I love that name). He has much to live up to, after being bought for what is an inflated fee.

Exactly, no one has seen the guy play. Who knows? He's probably good. And his success is the only gauge.

Seems to have real quality though. He'll need it. He'll be a pivotal player. Maybe their most key player.

I quite liked the look of Bojinov last season. If he stays, don't underestimate his quality.

Probably need some bolstering in defence. Corluka + Richards + Dunne are excellent defenders.

Excellent? overuse of the word really.

Corluka and Richards still have much to learn. Particularly Corluka who can look pretty dodgy from time to time. He's not an excellent defender yet. Unless you use the term very loosely.

all three are good defenders. excellent is a term usually reserved for the best of the best. the guys good enough to play for the best teams.

I guess they're excellent or very good compared to central defenders from outside the worlds best clubs. which may have been your point. or even presumably.

Onuoha will be a valuable asset, real talent. Potentially better than Richards IMO, just without the hype.

He's very quick. Which helps. Learn around that.

Garrido looked a bit suspect though from what I saw. So another LB could be in order.

Should be. Garrido isn't good enough. And 'a bit suspect' is being kind dude.

What is Castillo's situation? Will he join permanently? Where will he play too?

12 months left on his loan deal.

Midfield has options. Johnson, Ireland Elano, Petrov, Fernandes, Didi (how long can he keep performing at a high level), potentially Castillo could play here too I guess.

That midfield isn't anything special. On par with Aston Villa's current midfield - which needs improvement. (probably better by way of strength in options - certainly not quality)

Petrov isn't an option - he's a hack.

Petrov is rubbish.

I'm not a fan.

Goes in the Joe Cole basket.

Hamann is old and he didn't perform at a 'high level' last season. He started well and there were good games at best he wasserviceable.
Again though - unless you're using the term 'high level' very loosely. I know Liverpool fans still love Didi but there's no reason to ridiculously overrate his decent, commendable season.

Johnson started well. Faded badly.

Ireland actually got better as the season progressed. (which was the complete opposite to every single one of his midfield teammates aside from....)

Fernandes - who only started playing late in the season. Looked decent. No better or worse option than Hamann.

No doubting Elano's quality but he did go missing a bit towards the end of last season. Too much was expected of him. Can't dispute his quality. A fresh Elano = trouble. Stay fresher longer Elano and your team will win more.

Will Benjani stay?

Who cares!

Caceido (only young, but 0 in 10 isn't a great start, can he be relied upon to deliver the goods?),

I may be in the minority but I liked what I saw from him.

Darius is there too I guess, although is he a chance to be packing his bags and hitting the road?

He does provide a distant option and squad depth by way of his versatility.
 
AC, you're so argumentative.

Micah was ROUGHLY the 15th CB taken in the super draft, taken by you infact. Top 15 CB in the world eh? That's excellent.
I took him becauase he could play right back as well.

And becuase of his speed.

As a defender (and solely re; defensive qualities) there's more than 14 better.
 

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Excellent? overuse of the word really.

Corluka and Richards still have much to learn. Particularly Corluka who can look pretty dodgy from time to time. He's not an excellent defender yet. Unless you use the term very loosely.

all three are good defenders. excellent is a term usually reserved for the best of the best. the guys good enough to play for the best teams.

I guess they're excellent or very good compared to central defenders from outside the worlds best clubs. which may have been your point. or even presumably.

Pretty much. I think those 3 + Nedum are quite a bit better than any of their competitors in the 5-10 (11) range.

Even then, Corluka and Richards both have potential to improve a great deal. One would expect they will keep improving, maybe will be top class at some stage.

Should be. Garrido isn't good enough. And 'a bit suspect' is being kind dude.

He might have friends reading.

Be nice.

12 months left on his loan deal.

:thumbsu:

That midfield isn't anything special. On par with Aston Villa's current midfield - which needs improvement. (probably better by way of strength in options - certainly not quality)

With or without Barry? :p


Petrov isn't an option - he's a hack.

Petrov is rubbish.

I'm not a fan.

Obviously :D

He has his qualities. Can be an asset.


Hamann is old and he didn't perform at a 'high level' last season. He started well and there were good games at best he wasserviceable.
Again though - unless you're using the term 'high level' very loosely. I know Liverpool fans still love Didi but there's no reason to ridiculously overrate his decent, commendable season.

High level more relating to the strength of the competition more than his performances individually.

He performed consistently at a high level. If you know what I mean.

Johnson started well. Faded badly.

As did most. Top talent though, that will only improve.


No doubting Elano's quality but he did go missing a bit towards the end of last season. Too much was expected of him. Can't dispute his quality. A fresh Elano = trouble. Stay fresher longer Elano and your team will win more.

The bolded was certainly the key.

He really did carry them early in the year during their good run. Needs help.
 
Newcastle:

Well, at the moment we're still a bit short on players/quality, but we're slowly getting there I think.

Defenders:

Beye
Taylor
Faye
Cacapa
Enrique
Edgar

We need a good quality central defender to play in alongside Taylor/Faye, of which I'd hope it'd be Faye but it will probably be Taylor, who has incidentally signed a new 3 year deal. Jonny Evans has been linked, and is probably a chance to sign with us, however he's just a young dude so I'd imagine we'd only get him in as back-up/one for the future.

The fact that I had to include Edgar in this list (who's really not very good), illustrates the fact that we're short on numbers, especially with the departure of Rozehnal to Lazio, and also with the release of Lamine Diatta.

We also probably need a full-back that can play either left or right, however I haven't seen us linked to many/any full-backs.

Beye - Taylor - Faye - Enrique

That's our defence at the moment and it's actually not that bad, certainly not the worst in the league and certainly not as bad as the record would suggest.

Midfield:

Butt
Barton
N'Zogbia
Milner
Geremi
Gutierrez
Duff

Out of this lot, only two of them are central midfielders, with one of them (Geremi) able to play there.

Even the two central midfielders lack a bit of creativity, and with Bartons record he'll probably be in prison by the time the season comes around.

Depends on the formation we'll be playing, but we have to bring in two central midfielders at least, especially with the departure of Emre.

The wing stocks are looking quite good, especially if N'Zogbia stays. It would be him playing on the left and Gutierrez playing on the right, with Milner on the bench as back-up for both sides (which is probably where he deserves to be).

At the moment though:

N'Zogbia - Butt - Barton - Gutierrez

Must be improved.

Strikers:

Martins
Owen
Carroll
Viduka
Ameobi

The first two strikers on the list are quality and would be our starters I'd imagine, however, other than them two we lack. Viduka has been pretty decent when he's played for us, however, he's old and out for six months anyway.

All we really need is one striker though, preferably a big one, to compliment Owen and Martins nicely.
 
Pretty much. I think those 3 + Nedum are quite a bit better than any of their competitors in the 5-10 (11) range.

Even then, Corluka and Richards both have potential to improve a great deal. One would expect they will keep improving, maybe will be top class at some stage.

That's fair enough.

With or without Barry? :p

With him.

But obviously he won't be there next season.


High level more relating to the strength of the competition more than his performances individually.

He performed consistently at a high level. If you know what I mean.

No, actually.

I think you're high. ;)
 
A few things

Castillo only has 6 months left on his loan, we'll be making a decision to keep or let go in the January window. As it is, there are a few suggestions that he'll be moving to Spain in the off season anyway.

Bojinov will be a good asset (if he stays), but wouldn't expect too much too soon.

We still owe £6-7m on Benjani if he plays a certain number of games, so I hope we sell him, preferably to Bent 'Arry, preferably for a profit on what we paid last January.

Dunne, Richards, Corluka, Onuoha make for a pretty good back 4, and if Ned could stay fit I'd put him in at left back ahead of Ball or Garrido. Best thing about it is their ages, at a guess Richards 20, Onouha 21, Corluka 22 shows they still have a lot of improvement left in them.

Johnson, too many nights on the piss and too high an opinion of himself. Hopefully a bit of common sense will be beaten into him this season because he is very talented.

Elano, IMO will be much better for the experiences of last season. And having an intelligent, quick finisher (presuming Jo is that) ahead of him will do wonders for his game.

Petrov - rubbish and a hack. Ha ha ha ha.

As for Caicedo, he's copped a bit from our supporters on the message boards who seem to have written him off already. But I liked what I saw from him in very limited minutes last season. Certainly needs to bang a goal or two in early next season though.
 
I think you're high. ;)

I wish. Bored shitless. Currently watching the scottish masters thing on setanta, thats been relatively good. Yeah, surprised me too.

Anyway, just saw an add on setanta that they're showing nearly all of our pre-season games on there. Ace as ____ I say :thumbsu:
 
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