Transfer Rumours Thread

[moomba]

Corluka's agent

Makes it all interesting doesn't it.

Been reading the City boards tonight, new poster came on an hour before we announced he was staying and said pretty much that. Since then he/she has said to ignore the agent, he wants to stay and will be back at training tomorrow. Also that the reason he was allowed to speak to Spurs was that they triggered a release clause. Said that the club are now renegotiating his contract for the sole purpose of removing/increasing that amount.

No reason to believe the poster, no reason not to.

Anyway, as we have now announced that he is staying I presume Daniel Levy will end his interest in the player, after all we know he's a stickler for ethics as far as transfers go.

 

[Borgsta]

You have announced he is staying but whether he actually wants to stay and whether there were any contracts were signed is all up in the air.

Pretty bloody bizarre transfer saga.....I'm shocked that we are involved.

Apparently Thaksin didn't arrive in Thailand yet and may be in breach of his bail which could mean big trouble for Man City.

 

[moomba]

You have announced he is staying but whether he actually wants to stay and whether there were any contracts were signed is all up in the air.

Pretty bloody bizarre transfer saga.....I'm shocked that we are involved.

Apparently Thaksin didn't arrive in Thailand yet and may be in breach of his bail which could mean big trouble for Man City.

Don't think it will have too much impact to be honest, at least in the short term. There has been talk for a few weeks now that this would happen, and it would suit all parties - Shinawatra gets a decent wedge of his fortune back, the government see the back of him without the political instability that would arise from him being convicted or cleared. It was certainly a bit of a turnaround that they were allowed to leave Thailand in the first place, made a few people very suspicious at the time.

As far as his ownership status goes, theres a few issues. He's likely to get political asylum in the UK, and there will be a doubt as to whether or not any convictions he gets in Thailand will be recognised here (the body pursuing the charges was set up by the military junta that overthrew him). Either way, I doubt the FA have the balls to do anything. If they do, I doubt they'd have the balls to stop him simply palming the formal ownership off to acquaintences/family with him still firmly in the background.

It will be interesting I guess to hear his intentions for the club now that he's back in the UK (believe he arrived this morning). If nothing has changed (and thats the noise coming from the club although they would say that) then so be it, if he ends up having to sell, then so be it. I tend not to bother about who is sitting in the directors chair, takes away from the really important people in the game.

 

[Borgsta]

true although a change in the directors chair could take away a few of the important people from Man City

 

[DB10]

3 years and nothing.

Ooooohhhhh but we play good football.....

Oh, I wouldn't get into a pissing match over winless streaks, if I were you.

 

[Embers]

Don't think it will have too much impact to be honest, at least in the short term. There has been talk for a few weeks now that this would happen, and it would suit all parties - Shinawatra gets a decent wedge of his fortune back, the government see the back of him without the political instability that would arise from him being convicted or cleared. It was certainly a bit of a turnaround that they were allowed to leave Thailand in the first place, made a few people very suspicious at the time.

As far as his ownership status goes, theres a few issues. He's likely to get political asylum in the UK, and there will be a doubt as to whether or not any convictions he gets in Thailand will be recognised here (the body pursuing the charges was set up by the military junta that overthrew him). Either way, I doubt the FA have the balls to do anything. If they do, I doubt they'd have the balls to stop him simply palming the formal ownership off to acquaintences/family with him still firmly in the background.

It will be interesting I guess to hear his intentions for the club now that he's back in the UK (believe he arrived this morning). If nothing has changed (and thats the noise coming from the club although they would say that) then so be it, if he ends up having to sell, then so be it. I tend not to bother about who is sitting in the directors chair, takes away from the really important people in the game.

Wouldnt be so sure of that... Regardless can you explain to me how hes gonna get his 800 mill back? ATM hes a pauper. The purse strings are about to be tightened

 

[moomba]

Wouldnt be so sure of that... Regardless can you explain to me how hes gonna get his 800 mill back? ATM hes a pauper. The purse strings are about to be tightened

Pauper? Ha ha, I wish I was so poor.

According to the Thai press last night, one possibility is that he will be granted a royal pardon, and have his money from the sale of Shin Corp returned to him after paying tax.

Given the political instability in Thailand there is merit in both sides finding a mutual solution.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Everton apparently looking for some Love Vagner Love on laon for 2.5 and then another 10.5 later if we want to buy. Moutinho still around and so is the M'Bia deal.

 

[kane249]

Everton apparently looking for some Love Vagner Love on laon for 2.5 and then another 10.5 later if we want to buy. Moutinho still around and so is the M'Bia deal.

Sounds like someone at Everton's been playing FIFA 08

 

[Bradesmaen]

Sounds like someone at Everton's been playing FIFA 08

Nah we just finally have some money

 

[DBAH0]

Id rather us be the Next Leeds then the next Nottingham Forest. Atleast try and be successful. All I want us to do is sell our players to anyone and spend about 6-10 mill on 3 new players. Not too much to ask is it. We still need a LW LB and another striker. Sears is under too much pressure too perform atm. Facts are in 2 years now we have spent under 10 mill in the transfer window combined.... A bit depressing isnt it? Brown gave us more then that and actually knew how to run a football club too.

So you'd be ok with us ending up bankrupt and in the 2nd division then so long as we would keep spending $85,000 a week on the likes of Freddie Ljungberg?

And I blame Curbishley more for the fiasco. He was the one who bought the players, your Luis Boa Morte's for $5M, your Kieron Dyer's for $6M, your Craig Bellamy's for $7.5M and your Freddie Ljungberg for what has now been argubly $13M.

It should not be the owners job to validae who should be signed etc. That's the manager's job, and now because Curbishley is horrible at this aspect of managing, the club was forced to bring in a Technical Director (who so far with the Behrami signing based on his pre-season form), is 1 for 1 so far.

This club should be buying young talent, moulding it, and then utilizing it to take it forward. That's why I have quite liked the direction we've gone so far, bringing in some young players from across Europe.

And I think there'll be a couple of more signings. Getting rid of Ljungberg, will save this team $1M in 3 months time alone. I'd like to see Mattock brought in, and another good young striker.

 

[Borgsta]

Anyone else find it very suspicious that the papers haven't gotten involved in the whole Corluka affair?

 

[davey_magik]

So you'd be ok with us ending up bankrupt and in the 2nd division then so long as we would keep spending $85,000 a week on the likes of Freddie Ljungberg?

And I blame Curbishley more for the fiasco. He was the one who bought the players, your Luis Boa Morte's for $5M, your Kieron Dyer's for $6M, your Craig Bellamy's for $7.5M and your Freddie Ljungberg for what has now been argubly $13M.

It should not be the owners job to validae who should be signed etc. That's the manager's job, and now because Curbishley is horrible at this aspect of managing, the club was forced to bring in a Technical Director (who so far with the Behrami signing based on his pre-season form), is 1 for 1 so far.

This club should be buying young talent, moulding it, and then utilizing it to take it forward. That's why I have quite liked the direction we've gone so far, bringing in some young players from across Europe.

Agree 100%. The signings we made this time last year were disgusting.

The reason we're not spending as much money Embers is because they are worried Curbs will just waste it again.

 

[Embers]

So you'd be ok with us ending up bankrupt and in the 2nd division then so long as we would keep spending $85,000 a week on the likes of Freddie Ljungberg?

And I blame Curbishley more for the fiasco. He was the one who bought the players, your Luis Boa Morte's for $5M, your Kieron Dyer's for $6M, your Craig Bellamy's for $7.5M and your Freddie Ljungberg for what has now been argubly $13M.

It should not be the owners job to validae who should be signed etc. That's the manager's job, and now because Curbishley is horrible at this aspect of managing, the club was forced to bring in a Technical Director (who so far with the Behrami signing based on his pre-season form), is 1 for 1 so far.

This club should be buying young talent, moulding it, and then utilizing it to take it forward. That's why I have quite liked the direction we've gone so far, bringing in some young players from across Europe.

And I think there'll be a couple of more signings. Getting rid of Ljungberg, will save this team $1M in 3 months time alone. I'd like to see Mattock brought in, and another good young striker.

We have spent NOTHING in 2 years in regards to transfer fees. Im sick of BG blabbing on about how much money he has spent. Man City spent more Bianchi then we have in total for 2 flippin years.

Were not buying young talent, moulding it then utilizing it. If we bought Michael Kightly, Victor Moses then yes we are buying young talent and utlizing it. ATM all we are doing is buying young talent and trying to mould it. Fact is we still need players to play for our first team.

Whats the point of having 20 youngsters on the books when all your team is capable of doing is finishing 12th. None of t hese youngsters if they turn out to be any good are gonna hang around and watch us have mid table finish after mid table finish. You need some balance.

 

[Embers]

Agree 100%. The signings we made this time last year were disgusting.

The reason we're not spending as much money Embers is because they are worried Curbs will just waste it again.

The signings we made last year were more then cancelled out by the insane transfer fees we got for our players

9 mill for Reo Joker, nearly 4 mill for Konchesky, 4.5 mill for Harewood. We even sold a bloke like Ephriam with 6 months of his contract left for 800k. IMO this is something people have failed to acknowledge. We are the masters of selling trash for the price of a treasure.

How did we get 1.5 mill for John Pantsil....

 

[moomba]

Anyone else find it very suspicious that the papers haven't gotten involved in the whole Corluka affair?

Most of the papers have reported it as far as I can see.

Or are you talking about them reporting the rumours that appeared on the Spurs message board?

 

[davey_magik]

The signings we made last year were more then cancelled out by the insane transfer fees we got for our players

9 mill for Reo Joker, nearly 4 mill for Konchesky, 4.5 mill for Harewood. We even sold a bloke like Ephriam with 6 months of his contract left for 800k. IMO this is something people have failed to acknowledge. We are the masters of selling trash for the price of a treasure.

How did we get 1.5 mill for John Pantsil....

My problem isn't so much the money it was the fact that Curbs bought THREE players who are essentially RWs (All injury prone) and an injury prone striker.

Yeh we had a bad injury run but it didn't help we bought injury prone players. FFS EVERY SINGLE SIGNING we made last season was injury prone.

I'm not angry with you Embers, just our idiocy last season.

 

[Embers]

My problem isn't so much the money it was the fact that Curbs bought THREE players who are essentially RWs (All injury prone) and an injury prone striker.

Yeh we had a bad injury run but it didn't help we bought injury prone players. FFS EVERY SINGLE SIGNING we made last season was injury prone.

I'm not angry with you Embers, just our idiocy last season.

I think its clear to me anyway Dyer is at this club to play CM. He broke a leg ffs in a freak accident. If we signed Joe Blogs, man of steel we couldnt have stopped him from breaking his leg.

Bellamy had a pretty good injury run before he joined. Hes a very good player despite him being injury prone. He was scoring goal after goal this pre season and was our best player by Flemington

Faubert did his achilles. A rare injury. Solano signed as cover to the two injuries and that was a good bit of business I felt. Ljungberg was at the club to be our starting RW IMO.

Once we sold Yossi we had no RW at all. You need atleast 2 of them at your club for competition etc. Ljungberg Solano were those 2. Now its Behrami and Faubert. Dyer is a CM for us. Saying we signed injury prone players is just a excuse to hide the complete lack of competency from our medical staff. As far as I can see we had 1 medico for every 8 players at the club.

How a man can miss 1 month with blisters and a 8 month groin strain is beyond me. I dont care how injury prone you are. There comes a point in time when the medical staff have to take some blame.

 

[moomba]

I think its clear to me anyway Dyer is at this club to play CM. He broke a leg ffs in a freak accident. If we signed Joe Blogs, man of steel we couldnt have stopped him from breaking his leg.

If he hadn't broken his leg he would have found some other injury. Utter stupidity to sign Dyer without a good backup plan in place.

Bellamy had a pretty good injury run before he joined. Hes a very good player despite him being injury prone. He was scoring goal after goal this pre season and was our best player by Flemington

Bellamy had a shocking injury record before he joined.

How a man can miss 1 month with blisters and a 8 month groin strain is beyond me. I dont care how injury prone you are. There comes a point in time when the medical staff have to take some blame.

I suppose you believe Essendon players had appalling luck with the flu over the years.

 

[Embers]

If he hadn't broken his leg he would have found some other injury. Utter stupidity to sign Dyer without a good backup plan in place.


Bellamy had a shocking injury record before he joined.



I suppose you believe Essendon players had appalling luck with the flu over the years.

Thats rather ignorant. Do you have proof of this.

Bellamy had a good injury record at Liverpool.... If you knew anything about Bellers injury you would realise the medical staff had refused surgery for 6 months cos they could solve his problems without it. Guess what. They couldnt. We wasted 6 months on these assclowns ignoring PROFESSIONAL advice from Germanys finest doctors to have surgery.

 

[moomba]

Thats rather ignorant. Do you have proof of this.

Ask a Newcastle supporter.

Bellamy had a good injury record at Liverpool....

Ha ha, reported knee, calf and thigh strains in his one year stint as a scouser. And have a look at the link below, he's a real ironman that one.

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/390/craig_bellamy_injury.html

 

[Embers]

Ask a Newcastle supporter.

Bellamy had a good injury record at Liverpool....

Ha ha, reported knee, calf and thigh strains in his one year stint as a scouser. And have a look at the link below, he's a real ironman that one.

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/390/craig_bellamy_injury.html[/QUOTE]

Nothing serious there at all. NOTHING to do with whats wrong with him atm. Injury prone surely would mean the recurrence of a similar injury. As far as I can see theres only one pelvis injury hes had in his career. It was a freak injury no one could predict. His hammy isnt that bad this time around. Misses first 2 games and thats it.

 

[moomba]

Nothing serious there at all. NOTHING to do with whats wrong with him atm. Injury prone surely would mean the recurrence of a similar injury. As far as I can see theres only one pelvis injury hes had in his career. It was a freak injury no one could predict. His hammy isnt that bad this time around. Misses first 2 games and thats it.

Ha ha ha ha. You just refuse to admit you're wrong don't you.

 

[Embers]

Ha ha ha ha. You just refuse to admit you're wrong don't you.

Your ignoring the point and selective quoting once again. Putting all the blame on Curbs and not our medical staff is ignorant to say the least, If someone cut my toe off and died 2 days later would you blame the guy who cut my toe off or the doctors who couldnt fix it in time....

 

[apollo_creed]

9 million for Reo-Coker was an excellent deal for Villa.

He was one of our better players last season and there aren't too many better players of his type in the Premier League.

Reo-Coker just needs to learn to keep things simple more often.