Transgender

[Gralin]

Discussion continuing in Part 2 found here

Transgender - Part 2

Please be aware that the tolerance of anti-trans language on BF is at an all-time low. Jokes and insults that are trans-related, as well as anti-trans and bigoted rhetoric will be met with infractions, threadbans etc as required. It's a sensitive (and important) topic, so behave like...

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[Brunswick Trap King]

It most certainly wasn't, it was a stain on her legacy, whatever ham fisted excuse she used to justify her opposition.

Selling herself out to the 'Dutchman that hates dykes' and justifying it as being against the institution of marriage? Pathetic. Surely the gay people that want to be able to marry deserve more than that.

 

[Chief]

Some people have such short memories. The Turnbull government is denying gay people the chance to marry but it was okay when Gillard's government did the same.

"It was OK"

With who? How did they express their approval? Got links?

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

"It was OK"

With who? How did they express their approval? Got links?

We both know that I'm referring to the lack of condemnation toward Gillard. Until Gough just called it a stain on Gillard, I've never seen one criticism of her refusal to support gay marriage until after she was deposed.

 

[igon value]

What I want to know is: is there a gender pronoun that is more male than "Mr"?

Having just spent 13 hours riding the bucking bronco of kidney stone pain, without even crying very much, I think I deserve it.

If there isn't one, I think we need to invent it.

"Super-he" or "Se"? "Kad" for "Kick-ass dude"?


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Mr isn't a pronoun it's a title or honorific.

 

[Chief]

Mr isn't a pronoun it's a title or honorific.

Killjoy!

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Hey Gough. Do you view race as a social construct?

 

[Chief]

We both know that I'm referring to the lack of condemnation toward Gillard. Until Gough just called it a stain on Gillard, I've never seen one criticism of her refusal to support gay marriage until after she was deposed.

Lack of condemnation? From who - please be specific because your experience seems different to mine.

Gillard squibbed and if you want to blame anyone for same sex marriage issues we are having now, blame her cowardice on this issue.

 

[Chief]

We both know that I'm referring to the lack of condemnation toward Gillard. Until Gough just called it a stain on Gillard, I've never seen one criticism of her refusal to support gay marriage until after she was deposed.

And you still haven't shown who approved of it, only that you didn't see condemnation

 

[igon value]

So when the Trump administration is going after trans people

When did this happen?

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

And you still haven't shown who approved of it, only that you didn't see condemnation

I think I made it clear when I said 'until Gough just...'. Surely that implies that I've seen no one condemn her for her refusal to stand by her gay brothers and sisters.

A refusal to condemn her is as good as a tacit acceptance of her stance.

 

[checkraiseulite]

Hey Gough. Do you view race as a social construct?

inb4 the question is avoided for the seventh time

 

[checkraiseulite]

I think I made it clear when I said 'until Gough just...'. Surely that implies that I've seen no one condemn her for her refusal to stand by her gay brothers and sisters.

A refusal to condemn her is as good as a tacit acceptance of her stance.

all it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing etc etc

it was cowardly and weak and not so thinly cloaked in blatant self interest.

but don't you dare condemn her, you misogynists.

 

[Gough]

When did this happen?

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/22/p...tections-on-transgender-bathrooms-in-schools/

Washington (CNN)The Trump administration on Wednesday night withdrew Obama-era protections for transgender students in public schools that let them use bathrooms and facilities corresponding with their gender identity.

The announcement is a significant victory for opponents of the Obama administration's guidelines who believe the federal government never should have gotten involved in the issue.
Civil rights groups, meanwhile, denounced the withdrawal as a politically motivated attack that will endanger transgender children and sow confusion over the federal government's role in enforcing civil rights.

 

[igon value]

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/22/p...tections-on-transgender-bathrooms-in-schools/

Yes, he revoked the nonsense interpretation Obama made of Title IX (something the Women's Liberation Front was suing the DOJ to repeal). This is not going after trans people but reinstating female equality.

 

[checkraiseulite]

all it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing etc etc

it was cowardly and weak and not so thinly cloaked in blatant self interest.

but don't you dare condemn her, you misogynists.

for the record, turnbull is equally as weak and cowardly on this and climate change.

 

[deltablues]

We both know that I'm referring to the lack of condemnation toward Gillard. Until Gough just called it a stain on Gillard, I've never seen one criticism of her refusal to support gay marriage until after she was deposed.

The thing is, most folk don't care about what happens behind closed doors. As long as the players don't scare the horses (old joke).

But family folk do care about it when they have it forced down their throats, as it were, to the extent that the Boy Scouts are now on the gays' agenda; bathrooms/restrooms ditto [transgender] and sports events have gay/transgender themes.

All of which are resented by the average heterosexual fan who objects to being a captive audience to minority SJW memes du jour.

I mean, why is same sex/homosexuality/transgenderism even discussed so much in the media now? Who really cares?

Answer - the SJW activists care. It is part of their a la carte Marxist identity politics play book. And the MSM see clickbait $ in it.

And you have to give them (the activists) credit - they do it well. As evidenced by many of the comments/responses in this (and other) threads here.

 

[Chief]

A refusal to condemn her is as good as a tacit acceptance of her stance.

You didn't see anyone at all say "Gillard you are wrong"? Nobody at all?

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

You didn't see anyone at all say "Gillard you are wrong"? Nobody at all?

Would repeating it a third time make it clearer?

 

[Gough]

You didn't see anyone at all say "Gillard you are wrong"? Nobody at all?

The kid is still new to this right wing victimhood caper, give him a chance.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

The kid is still new to this right wing victimhood caper, give him a chance.

Have you ever added anything of substance? I voted Gillard then, and I'd vote for her again today. That doesn't mean that I approve of all of her stances like you seem to think is necessary.

 

[Chief]

herculez09

One Google search.

On issuing CNI's to people who want to enter into a same sex marriage overseas:

https://www.crikey.com.au/2011/06/14/the-gillard-government’s-anti-gay-marriage-policy-goes-global/
Because of these problems the Netherlands gives Australians an exemption from its CNI requirement (along with Zimbabweans). Meanwhile, the Norwegians are so angry that the Gillard government is pushing its prejudices down their throats, they attacked Australia’s same-s-x marriage ban at a recent UN human rights review.

The article calls it a "ridiculous, harmful, discriminatory policy".

Penny Wong criticised:

http://www.samesame.com.au/news/5671/Wong-hypocrite-on-gay-marriage
Australian Marriage Equality spokesperson Alex Greenwich says Senator Wong’s rationale for opposing marriage equality is “deeply hypocritical.”

Gillard's stance "dated and draconian":

https://www.pedestrian.tv/arts-and-...efends-anti-gay-marriage-stance-in-/58031.htm

Gillard slammed for gay rights stance
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/gillard-slammed-for-gay-rights-stance-20120512-1yj9n.html
US President Barack Obama’s public support for gay marriage highlights how ‘‘backwards’’ Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s views are, a gay rights campaigner says.

Hundreds of pro-gay marriage supporters packed Queen’s Park in Brisbane’s CBD yesterday to urge the federal government to give gays and lesbians the right to marry.

Simultaneous rallies were also held in Melbourne, Sydney, Perth, Canberra, Adelaide and Hobart to celebrate the Marriage Equality National Day of Action.



And so on. You have to go past the first page because the latest articles are about her back-flip on gay marriage.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

herculez09

One Google search.

On issuing CNI's to people who want to enter into a same sex marriage overseas:

https://www.crikey.com.au/2011/06/14/the-gillard-government’s-anti-gay-marriage-policy-goes-global/
Because of these problems the Netherlands gives Australians an exemption from its CNI requirement (along with Zimbabweans). Meanwhile, the Norwegians are so angry that the Gillard government is pushing its prejudices down their throats, they attacked Australia’s same-s-x marriage ban at a recent UN human rights review.

The article calls it a "ridiculous, harmful, discriminatory policy".

Penny Wong criticised:

http://www.samesame.com.au/news/5671/Wong-hypocrite-on-gay-marriage
Australian Marriage Equality spokesperson Alex Greenwich says Senator Wong’s rationale for opposing marriage equality is “deeply hypocritical.”

Gillard's stance "dated and draconian":

https://www.pedestrian.tv/arts-and-...efends-anti-gay-marriage-stance-in-/58031.htm

Gillard slammed for gay rights stance
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/gillard-slammed-for-gay-rights-stance-20120512-1yj9n.html
US President Barack Obama’s public support for gay marriage highlights how ‘‘backwards’’ Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s views are, a gay rights campaigner says.

Hundreds of pro-gay marriage supporters packed Queen’s Park in Brisbane’s CBD yesterday to urge the federal government to give gays and lesbians the right to marry.

Simultaneous rallies were also held in Melbourne, Sydney, Perth, Canberra, Adelaide and Hobart to celebrate the Marriage Equality National Day of Action.



And so on. You have to go past the first page because the latest articles are about her back-flip on gay marriage.

Thank you, now I can say that I have seen someone condemn her. I will read these later this afternoon when I get the chance.

 

[igon value]

Have you ever added anything of substance?

The answer is never.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

The answer is never.

Gough Whitlam was always someone that I've always idolised.

 

[igon value]

Gough Whitlam was always someone that I've always idolised.

I think he named himself after the former England opening fast bowler.