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There are two genders of homo sapiens. Homo sapiens with an XX chromosome pattern are female, and homo sapiens with an XY chromosome pattern are male. It is that simple. A male can never become female and a female can never become male.

Let's say a biological male who identifies and lives as a female (whether a pre or post operative transgender) gets lost in the bush and dies, with the body not found for 20 years. By this time the skeleton is all that remains, and from examination of the skull and bone structure the pathologists will immediately determine that the body is that of a male. If any hair samples remain, analysis will show them having an XY genetic structure rather than XX.

Just when will this madness end?
 

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There are two genders of homo sapiens. Homo sapiens with an XX chromosome pattern are female, and homo sapiens with an XY chromosome pattern are male. It is that simple. A male can never become female and a female can never become male.

Let's say a biological male who identifies and lives as a female (whether a pre or post operative transgender) gets lost in the bush and dies, with the body not found for 20 years. By this time the skeleton is all that remains, and from examination of the skull and bone structure the pathologists will immediately determine that the body is that of a male. If any hair samples remain, analysis will show them having an XY genetic structure rather than XX.

Just when will this madness end?
Which one do XXY people fall into?
 

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Your news source is the Daily Signal .The publication focuses on political commentary from a conservative perspective. It is published by conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation.
Yeah it is a right leaning news source

But what is the difference between that and when Buzzfeed and Vice (etc.),left leaning news sources, report on transgender athletes and how wonderful and inclusive it is?

Buzzfeed and Vice are just as biased
 

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Yeah it is a right leaning news source

But what is the difference between that and when Buzzfeed and Vice (etc.),left leaning news sources, report on transgender athletes and how wonderful and inclusive it is?

Buzzfeed and Vice are just as biased
I don't look at Buzzfeeed and I've never heard of Vice. I tend to look at legitimate news sources who print facts not right wing 'news' that use high production values to dump on transgender people.I agree that transgender shouldn't race in the women's races but that video had christian hate all over it.The only thing that was missing was the snowflake tears from the homophobic girl.
 

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I don't look at Buzzfeeed and I've never heard of Vice. I tend to look at legitimate news sources who print facts not right wing 'news' that use high production values to dump on transgender people.I agree that transgender shouldn't race in the women's races but that video had christian hate all over it.The only thing that was missing was the snowflake tears from the homophobic girl.
Sounds like you are xenophobic to the views of immigrants
 

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I don't look at Buzzfeeed and I've never heard of Vice. I tend to look at legitimate news sources who print facts not right wing 'news' that use high production values to dump on transgender people.I agree that transgender shouldn't race in the women's races but that video had christian hate all over it.The only thing that was missing was the snowflake tears from the homophobic girl.
You might not, but plenty do and that's where they get their views from. You can add Vox to the Vice News & Buzzfeed mix. Virtue signallers basically
 

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But is she homophobic?
She is complaining about unfair advantage. Not the same is it?
It's why the IAAF brought in testosterone level testing
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...enya-loses-landmark-legal-case-iaaf-athletics
I agree that transgender shouldn't run like I said but you can't take these right wing thinktanks as a legimate news source.They had 4 girls who spoke anonymously (bad journalism), one referred to 'these people 'and the 'far left'. Where's the interview with the students who think its ok to race?This girl is not a good runner anyway , she spent half a day putting make up on and setting up a studio in her house,that's why you shouldn't use these pro Trump 'news' sources.Trump is known to have racist policies and is a compulsive liar and he is only in power because of the 'religious' right who are filled with hate and a superiority complex.How did we get to a situation where christians believe and pray for a compulsive liar who operates like a crooked mafia boss.
I say handicap the transgender equivalent to their testosterone levels.Eg in a 100m race ,the transgender get a 5m handicap or something.
 

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I agree that transgender shouldn't run like I said but you can't take these right wing thinktanks as a legimate news source.They had 4 girls who spoke anonymously (bad journalism), one referred to 'these people 'and the 'far left'. Where's the interview with the students who think its ok to race?This girl is not a good runner anyway , she spent half a day putting make up on and setting up a studio in her house,that's why you shouldn't use these pro Trump 'news' sources.Trump is known to have racist policies and is a compulsive liar and he is only in power because of the 'religious' right who are filled with hate and a superiority complex.How did we get to a situation where christians believe and pray for a compulsive liar who operates like a crooked mafia boss.
I say handicap the transgender equivalent to their testosterone levels.Eg in a 100m race ,the transgender get a 5m handicap or something.
you are the only one calling it a news source
 
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I don't look at Buzzfeeed and I've never heard of Vice. I tend to look at legitimate news sources who print facts not right wing 'news' that use high production values to dump on transgender people.I agree that transgender shouldn't race in the women's races but that video had christian hate all over it.The only thing that was missing was the snowflake tears from the homophobic girl.
Ffs transgender in sports has nothing to do with left and right wing politics.
 

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Ffs transgender in sports has nothing to do with left and right wing politics.
It is for right wing think tanks though.It's a bread and butter issue to gain votes.Fear and bigotry is their modus operandi and can clearly be seen with the rise of right wing 'populism' around the world.I hope the churchy people are happy they have ruined the USA, Brazil and Australia.Why don't these 'think tanks ' ever refer to scientific evidence? In the future we will look back at this period as the mad post-truth era where gullible people were manipulated by liars and crooks for their own personal benefit.When did it become ok to stoke hatred of immigrants, transgender, environmentalists and scientists to win someone's vote?
 

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It is for right wing think tanks though.It's a bread and butter issue to gain votes.Fear and bigotry is their modus operandi and can clearly be seen with the rise of right wing 'populism' around the world.I hope the churchy people are happy they have ruined the USA, Brazil and Australia.Why don't these 'think tanks ' ever refer to scientific evidence? In the future we will look back at this period as the mad post-truth era where gullible people were manipulated by liars and crooks for their own personal benefit.When did it become ok to stoke hatred of immigrants, transgender, environmentalists and scientists to win someone's vote?
Look up Ray Blanchard.
 

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Geeze I'm starting to wonder if Latham has a point. Of over 23 million Australians at the 2016 census a grand total of, wait for it, 1260 identified as gender diverse. To put that in perspective it is .005% of the populace.
The media and western world in general has gone absolutely crazy with pumping up catering to all new insane levels of minority groups. There are education programs being run throughout Australia's failing and overcrowded curriculum system to address the feelings of .005% of the population. There's TV panellists, educators, politicians, journalists, covering this .005% of the populace every day, enacting legislation, changing scientific definitions etc like it is some top priority of importance for the survival of the other 99.995% of humanity.
This endless search for something different to sell/promote/deflect has become a death knell. It's absolutely self definingly crazy the level of importance placed on such low hanging priority fruit over things that actually really affect the worlds populations. Age of Decadence defined for Christs sake.
 

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Geeze I'm starting to wonder if Latham has a point. Of over 23 million Australians at the 2016 census a grand total of, wait for it, 1260 identified as gender diverse. To put that in perspective it is .005% of the populace.
The media and western world in general has gone absolutely crazy with pumping up catering to all new insane levels of minority groups. There are education programs being run throughout Australia's failing and overcrowded curriculum system to address the feelings of .005% of the population. There's TV panellists, educators, politicians, journalists, covering this .005% of the populace every day, enacting legislation, changing scientific definitions etc like it is some top priority of importance for the survival of the other 99.995% of humanity.
This endless search for something different to sell/promote/deflect has become a death knell. It's absolutely self definingly crazy the level of importance placed on such low hanging priority fruit over things that actually really affect the worlds populations. Age of Decadence defined for Christs sake.
It's just a progressive policy that will be normal in ten years.It's opposed by the same types of people who voted against indigenous people voting in 1969 or people who think the women's place is in the kitchen.Or the same people that wanted homosexuality to be a crime. If you don't follow through with progressive policy you will look a right twat innthe future.
 

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It's just a progressive policy that will be normal in ten years.It's opposed by the same types of people who voted against indigenous people voting in 1969 or people who think the women's place is in the kitchen.Or the same people that wanted homosexuality to be a crime. If you don't follow through with progressive policy you will look a right twat innthe future.
Well so called progressive policy has become somewhat grey in it's definition. As far as "in the future" is concerned that usually depends on the parameters set. Everything occurs in cycles and it's just as likely that what you define as future (20 years from now for example) is nothing compared to the re-visitation of certain "progressive" policies in say 100 or 500 years. Remember it was progressives that signed agreements to outlaw war only to be lulled into complacency whilst Germany rebuilt their military unchallenged during the thirties. How well did that progressive approach fare? Similar progressive policies allowed ISIS to get to the stage it has etc. In the "future" some so called enlightened progressives may just as likely be found on the wrong side of history, it just depends on how far into the future one goes and what subset of a timeline you choose for your own reference (or perhaps preference).
It's also quite likely that in hundreds of years the current approach to .005% of the populace being placed above priority levels of numerous far more important areas will be viewed equally negatively. You just might have to go beyond your limited "future" scope.
 
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Geeze I'm starting to wonder if Latham has a point. Of over 23 million Australians at the 2016 census a grand total of, wait for it, 1260 identified as gender diverse. To put that in perspective it is .005% of the populace.
The media and western world in general has gone absolutely crazy with pumping up catering to all new insane levels of minority groups. There are education programs being run throughout Australia's failing and overcrowded curriculum system to address the feelings of .005% of the population. There's TV panellists, educators, politicians, journalists, covering this .005% of the populace every day, enacting legislation, changing scientific definitions etc like it is some top priority of importance for the survival of the other 99.995% of humanity.
This endless search for something different to sell/promote/deflect has become a death knell. It's absolutely self definingly crazy the level of importance placed on such low hanging priority fruit over things that actually really affect the worlds populations. Age of Decadence defined for Christs sake.
That census stat you've reported was likely for those neither identifying as male or female (which prior to the 2010s was a virtually invisible group of people). Maybe those in the process of transitioning may have ticked it for official reasons. But a vast majority of transgender people wouldn't have picked that option, so I don't really see the relevance of that census stat to the thread title.

It wouldn't be discussed in the media so much if right wing nutters weren't so obsessed with it. They fixate upon transgender people far more than transgender people talk about transgender people (who likely find the topic much more boring).

The two biggest challenges this planet is facing are: 1 - Climate change; 2 - Media and information literacy in the digital age (the ability to effectively be aware of, access and evaluate information sources with an open mind to inform decision-making). The far right fail miserably on both counts, and exploit ineptitude in the latter.
 
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