Transgender

[Gralin]

Discussion continuing in Part 2 found here

Transgender - Part 2

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[igon value]

And the arguments of igon value, cannot, and others of their leanings is revealed to be flimsy and without real substance. And so they descend into silliness and mockery.

It was actually cool when you were trying to debate this as adults. We may not have convinced each other of anything but at least the back-and-forth was valid.

This though? This is just bullshit.

What specifically of what I posted is "silly"?

 

[igon value]

Anyone noticed it's largely older men leading the outcry about this? Generally those yearning for a return to older more intolerant ways.

Did you miss the Women's Liberation Front suing the US DOJ to reverse the changes to Title IX?

 

[igon value]

Why not genderless dunnies? I don't particularly care if I have to piss into a toilet as opposed to a urinal or a 'piss trough'.

What about genderless domestic violence shelters?

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

What about genderless domestic violence shelters?

I'd think that domestic violence is a slightly different issue.

 

[HenrikLundqvist]

If I had a nickel for every gender there was I'd have 10 cents.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

What specifically of what I posted is "silly"?

Actually I take that back and apologise. Reading through it all again I meant to put Lethality's name in instead of yours. for his "I wanna be a 6 year old girl with 40 different genders' quip. You've never descended to this. Once again, I apologise

 

[Lethality]

Actually I take that back and apologise. Reading through it all again I meant to put Lethality name in instead of yours. for his "I wanna be a 6 year old girl with 40 different genders' quip. You've never descended to this. Once again, I apologise

I didn't say I wanted to be a 6 year old girl, I am one. At least I was this morning. Now I am fairy kind male age 190. This isn't a joke, you transphobe, I am gender fluid. Stop misgendering me or I will report you to the mods for transphobia.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I didn't say I wanted to be a 6 year old girl, I am one. At least I was this morning. Now I am fairy kind male age 190.

Can we see pictures of your transitioning? Blur the face if you want.

 

[Lethality]

Can we see pictures of your transitioning? Blur the face if you want.

Duh, you can't see someone transitioning from the outside, it's an internal process.

You have a lot to learn.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

So not only are you racist, xenophobic and of low intelligence, but you also despise anyone who isn't their birth gender. Cause it affects you so much.

What a tool.

Why does it affect you so much what he thinks? You sound pretty hypocritical.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Duh, you can't see someone transitioning from the outside, it's an internal process.

You have a lot to learn.

So your inward transition is not reflected by your outside dress? What are you ashamed of? This is you. Be proud!

You have much to learn about courage of conviction.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

If I had a nickel for every gender there was I'd have 10 cents.

If you had a nickel at all you couldn't spend it here.

 

[Lethality]

So your inward transition is not reflected by your outside dress? What are you ashamed of? This is you. Be proud!

I don't think that my outward dress is really what reinforces my inner light and humanity, rather than my mindset and trans pride. So proud to be gender fluid.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I don't think that my outward dress is really what reinforces my inner light and humanity, rather than my mindset and trans pride. So proud to be gender fluid.

But it is a reflection. An inner pride not shared, what does that actually say about you? That you're not comfortable in your own skin, that your outside dress conforms to societal expectation rather than your own inner light and humanity.

People see you. They don't see what's inside. What do they learn?

 

[Lethality]

But it is a reflection. An inner pride not shared, what does that actually say about you?

I always share my inner pride and I feel that my identity glows bright and that people can see it if they are looking.

 

[igon value]

I'd think that domestic violence is a slightly different issue.

Unfortunately in Canada it is seen as the same issue.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3300518/concerns-over-transgender-client-at-okanagan-shelter/
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/02/15/a-sex-predators-sick-deception

The reality is vulnerable women, and many women in general, don't want men around them - even (and perhaps especially) if they are appropriating femininity

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I always share my inner pride and I feel that my identity glows bright and that people can see it if they are looking.

Be proud then.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Unfortunately in Canada it is seen as the same issue.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3300518/concerns-over-transgender-client-at-okanagan-shelter/
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/02/15/a-sex-predators-sick-deception

The reality is vulnerable women, and many women in general, don't want men around them - even (and perhaps especially) if they are appropriating femininity

How many transgender are really like Christopher Hambrook though?

 

[igon value]

How many transgender are really like Christopher Hambrook though?

Why does it matter? What are women's shelters for?

How many conventional men are like Christopher Hambrook? Why are all men excluded from women's shelters?

 

[Lethality]

Be proud then.

I am proud, but I just don't appreciate it when dismissive attitudes pop up. Thank you for understanding and educating yourself.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I am proud, but I just don't appreciate it when dismissive attitudes pop up. Thank you for understanding and educating yourself.

Nobody likes it when dismissive attitudes pop up. If I have offended I'm sorry. This enlightened attitude is the way it should be, don't you reckon? Tolerance and a fair go for all?

 

[HenrikLundqvist]

So not only are you racist, xenophobic and of low intelligence, but you also despise anyone who isn't their birth gender. Cause it affects you so much.

What a tool.

I don't despise people for not conforming to their gender, just like I don't despise people for sticking an animal tail up their ass and pretending to be a furry.

When you expect society to cater to the whims of the few however, you're just being impractical. Far worse atrocities are being committed in the world today than the issue of which bathroom to take a leak in.

 

[Lethality]

I'm not always my birth species, sometimes I identify as a cat. Bradesmaen please acknowledge birth species as well as birth genders in your future posts.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Why does it matter? What are women's shelters for?

How many conventional men are like Christopher Hambrook? Why are all men excluded from women's shelters?

Reading that article in full it appears Hambrook was only a crossdresser. He had no breasts, implanted or otherwise. He was able to leave his DNA on a victim's nightwear.

This appears to be lax security by the shelter. I hope it was improved at shelters after this incident.

 

[igon value]

Reading that article in full it appears Hambrook was only a crossdresser. He had no breasts, implanted or otherwise. He was able to leave his DNA on a victim's nightwear.

This appears to be lax security by the shelter. I hope it was improved at shelters after this incident.

At what point do shelters in Canada that are now required by legislation to accept M-F transgender people in do they assess the existence of genitals, breasts, etc?

Even the IOC no longer require people competing in women's events to not have a penis.