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Travis Boak

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smasha said:
****ing Carltank will get him with their Visy Board money the cheating bastards.
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I can see it now...

Travis A. Boak
Visy Industries
Junior Vice President
Milk Carton Czar

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tugga said:
And imagine Deledio, Cotchin and Martin walking out the door when we can't afford to keep them because we are paying Boak too much?
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Surely you are kidding aren't you. Have a look at Geelong & Hawks.....I am not sure on the exact figure of the salary cap but I gurantee we could satisfy Lids, Cotch Martin as well as Boak...plus they front ended contracts.
 
Realistically, the only way we'll get him is to trade pick 4. I practically never watch Port Adelaide so I'm not in a position to say how good he is, but if he's the gun everyone says, it is an option strongly worth considering. After all, pick 4 in this draft will most likely be inferior to pick 5 of the 2006 superdraft (i.e. Boak) and we'll be getting him with four years' development in him.

Ideally we get him in the PSD for nothing and hang onto pick 4 but that kind of thing almost never happens. Port won't accept our second-rounder, especially when other clubs will be offering their first. So the question is, what is better for the club? Do we add another talented 18-year-old or the equivalent (or better) 22-year-old who has proved himself a quality AFL on-baller? Don't forget that 18-year-old will take four years to get to where Boak is now, and that's if he's good enough.

We don't even know that Boak wants to leave Port but if he does and he is that much of a gun then I say we make him and Port an offer they can't refuse. Pick 4 for Boak, straight swap. Pay him $2.2 million over four years if that's what it takes. We'll still be able to be at 92.5% of the salary cap by 2012 in order to nab a couple of free agents.

People will say it's a shortcut and we should never trade our first round pick but I disagree with the first thought and there are always exceptions to the second. Everyone's already drooling over the thought of adding Boak to Lids, Foley, Cotch and Martin and we should still be able to find a couple of good kids with picks 26 & 28.
 
I wouldn't be offering up any of our first 3 picks, keep them for drafting kids. Given we've got plenty of room in the cap I'd hope that the club tries and convinces him to walk into the PSD. If he then says that he wants to see Port at least get something then give Port a list of players that we'd part with and let them take their pick and maybe throw in our 4th pick.
 

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Ruthless Tiger said:
I wouldn't be offering up any of our first 3 picks, keep them for drafting kids. Given we've got plenty of room in the cap I'd hope that the club tries and convinces him to walk into the PSD. If he then says that he wants to see Port at least get something then give Port a list of players that we'd part with and let them take their pick and maybe throw in our 4th pick.
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You're dreaming; I'm being Realistic. ;) What you're saying is you don't want to go for Boak, or anyone any good.

juddsentant517 said:
Don't mean to invade on your board, and am in no ways having a go, but why would he want to go to Richmond of all clubs?!?
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Why did Judd want to go to Carlton? $$, and the chance to play for a big club in his home state alongside some great young talent.
 
gopower said:
Lol. Unless Cotchin or Martin is on the list of players you'd be willing to part with, we'd laugh you out of Alberton. A 4th round pick is nothing, and there's nobody else on your list with anywhere near Boak's trade value.
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Well, we'll probably have the first pick of the PSD. We also have plenty of $$$. Could lure him there.
 
gopower said:
Money can speak louder than family ties. But if he did want to go to Victoria, why would he want to go to Richmond? I don't mean to offend you on your own board, but it's true. You're kidding yourself if you don't think one of Carlton, Collingwood or Essendon would be willing to offer more than a Richmond fringe player and a fourth rounder, and I highly doubt Boak would bypass those clubs due to a burning desire to play for the Tigers. If you want him, you need to give us what he's worth.
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He'd go to Richmond because we can pay more than any of those clubs. It's pretty simple. Why do you think Judd went to Carlton?
 
Something similar to the Shaun Burgoyne trade deal will get it done if you want Travis Boak. Picks 9 +16 was the final deal. His SCI is enormous and he's had one of the best starts to a career for a young midfielder under Mark Williams.
 

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What and you wouldn't be happy to pay a player 850,000 if they win AA selection, play every game and win the Norm Smith meaning we would probably have won the granny! Your thought process is laughable....
 
amcre said:
Essentially it is costing you 850k for a premiership yet you seem to think it is too much???
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So throw Boak into the midfield and we win a flag. Jesus, it's that simple. We didn't I think of that.:rolleyes:
 
richoatthedisco said:
You're dreaming; I'm being Realistic. ;) What you're saying is you don't want to go for Boak, or anyone any good.
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So what you're saying is we should revisit the days of trading away our first round pick in an attempt to buy our way out of trouble. Thats part of the reason why we currently find ourselves in this mess.
 

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Ruthless Tiger said:
So what you're saying is we should revisit the days of trading away our first round pick in an attempt to buy our way out of trouble. Thats part of the reason why we currently find ourselves in this mess.
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... same with Nth Melbourne ;) not that they are in as much mess as us.

two first rounders and two second rounders for Johnson and Brown .. i know its hindsight wizardry ... but ...:o
 
gopower said:
Lol. Unless Cotchin or Martin is on the list of players you'd be willing to part with, we'd laugh you out of Alberton. A 4th round pick is nothing, and there's nobody else on your list with anywhere near Boak's trade value.
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Right now we have pick 1 in the PSD as our biggest bargaining tool, so you asking for Cotchin or Martin would see us laughing in your face. OUr second biggest bargaining tool is the amount of space we'll have in our cap come seasons end, which if it comes down to money only GC would be able to compete or Geelong if Ablett leaves. Given those 2 things we don't have to offer up anything like Cotchin or Martin.
 
wapower said:
Something similar to the Shaun Burgoyne trade deal will get it done if you want Travis Boak. Picks 9 +16 was the final deal. His SCI is enormous and he's had one of the best starts to a career for a young midfielder under Mark Williams.
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Pick 4 = 9 + 16.

Ruthless Tiger said:
So what you're saying is we should revisit the days of trading away our first round pick in an attempt to buy our way out of trouble. Thats part of the reason why we currently find ourselves in this mess.
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IDGAF said:
... same with Nth Melbourne ;) not that they are in as much mess as us.

two first rounders and two second rounders for Johnson and Brown .. i know its hindsight wizardry ... but ...:o
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It's totally different. We and North traded for blokes in the second half of their careers. Boak is still very much in the first half. He's capable of growing with the group and will help accelerate that growth. I say again, we use one first round pick on a first round pick already gunning it and about to hit his prime for the next 6-8 years, or we use it on an unknown 18-year-old who will take four years to get to where this bloke is now, if at all.

Boak fits right into a neat little gap on our list. We have Foley, 18 months older than Deledio, who is 18 months older than Boak, who is 18 months older than Cotchin, who is a little over a year older than Martin. And Boak adds to the group of 06 draftees we have in Jack, Edwards, Collins, Connors and Hislop.

It's not trading away your future if you know you're getting a 22-year-old gun with his best years ahead. That's improving your future.
 
richoatthedisco said:
It's totally different. We and North traded for blokes in the second half of their careers. Boak is still very much in the first half. He's capable of growing with the group and will help accelerate that growth. I say again, we use one first round pick on a first round pick already gunning it and about to hit his prime for the next 6-8 years, or we use it on an unknown 18-year-old who will take four years to get to where this bloke is now, if at all.

Boak fits right into a neat little gap on our list. We have Foley, 18 months older than Deledio, who is 18 months older than Boak, who is 18 months older than Cotchin, who is a little over a year older than Martin. And Boak adds to the group of 06 draftees we have in Jack, Edwards, Collins, Connors and Hislop.

It's not trading away your future if you know you're getting a 22-year-old gun with his best years ahead. That's improving your future.
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Thats all well and good but why can't we go after Boak without trading away pick 4? We have a heap of room in the cap and pick 1 in the PSD which provide us with 2 of the best bargaining tools around so why not use them to our advantage.

As you've said getting Boak will help improve the list but getting Boak and adding another top quality kid with pick 4 helps improve it even more. Now I ask you which would you prefer?
 
Would love Boak at the club! would never happen though i dont think.

didn't he live with Brendon Lade when he first went to Port? i recall hearing that somewhere! not 100% sure though if im getting him mixed up with someone else!
 

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