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Throw Cloke in our forward line and Chaplin into our backline to help out, draft 3 mids with our first 3 pciks in the top 30 and we can all start preparing to actually go to the footy in September in 2013 instead of sitting on our arses or taking holidays.
 
Throw Cloke in our forward line and Chaplin into our backline to help out, draft 3 mids with our first 3 pciks in the top 30 and we can all start preparing to actually go to the footy in September in 2013 instead of sitting on our arses or taking holidays.

Throw Cloke and Sylvia in our forward line and Chaplin into our backline and who ever is our first pick would be four good ins and take out 4 at the bottom would make a massive difference.

Richo was again banging on about Sylvia the other night. I wonder if he knows something or just trying to get his message across. And i agree with Richo saying he needs a spark to get his mojo back and with quality around him he would be a perfect fit for us instead of wallowing in a crappy team like he is.
 
Throw Cloke and Sylvia in our forward line and Chaplin into our backline and who ever is our first pick would be four good ins and take out 4 at the bottom would make a massive difference.

Richo was again banging on about Sylvia the other night. I wonder if he knows something or just trying to get his message across. And i agree with Richo saying he needs a spark to get his mojo back and with quality around him he would be a perfect fir for us instead of wallowing in a crappy team like he is.
I would happily take a risk with Sylvia. If it pays off, it pays off in a big, big way.
 

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Carlton or Melbourne

They are the clubs that will pay $1mil ................. Tigers wont !
unless he is at around $700k .............. i dont want him

Riewoldt,Elton,Griffiths,Astbury,Vickery,O'Hanlon,Post ............. In 4 years time cloke will be Done & Dusted but our boys will be the Guns.

There is no Guarantee these guys will get to anywhere near the level Cloke is at. I certainly don't want to pay $1 Mil for him, but the Tigers should do whatever possible (without hurting the club) to get him....

The potential with him in our team is enormous. I think we could skip a year or 2 more of being around that 6 to 10 mark, and become overnight Top 4 contenders. Isn't that worth paying a little over the odds for him? Especially when we've been so starved of success for so long.

He's only 25, he is about to enter his absolute prime. And he could well have another 6 years left in him...

Plus, once Cloke is done, we have a reasonable backup to slot in and take over. This is what Sydney do very well. Recruit and draft for a couple of years down the track, rather than trying to fill holes now.

Cloke fills a hole now that allows to ease the pressure on Elton, Astbury, and Griff to become gun forwards now, when they're 21yo or younger. Look ahead three years, and with further development, it's a much brighter picture with Cloke (and Chaplain) in the side, and having drafted three pure mids in the 2012 draft.
 
Carlton or Melbourne

They are the clubs that will pay $1mil ................. Tigers wont !
unless he is at around $700k .............. i dont want him

Riewoldt,Elton,Griffiths,Astbury,Vickery,O'Hanlon,Post ............. In 4 years time cloke will be Done & Dusted but our boys will be the Guns.
Melbourne is a rabble, he may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but no way would he be dumb enough to move from Collingwood and go to Melbourne
 
Surely we couldnt nab all 3 of Chaplin, Cloke and Sylvia..

Would be the biggest thing to happen to this club in years if we did.. Filling massive needs and letting the young kids develop properly instead of just throwing them out there because we have no other choice, is the way to go.

2013 ins: Chaplin, Cloke, Sylvia

reads well..
 
Just realised Colin will only be 27 when the next season roll around, really keen on him now. Means that we have another class forward instead of Mini Maric playing and he can spent time in the midfield, freeing up Cotch, Dusty and Lids.
 
Carltank will be top 4 certainties and possible premiers next year if they get Cloke and stay injury free.
If the blues do get Cloke then i will be replicating what Jack is doing in your avatar Richmond_Groupie :mad:
 
Throw Cloke in our forward line and Chaplin into our backline to help out, draft 3 mids with our first 3 pciks in the top 30 and we can all start preparing to actually go to the footy in September in 2013 instead of sitting on our arses or taking holidays.

tend to agree- will order my seats on the plane now from jakarta
 
Throw Cloke and Sylvia in our forward line and Chaplin into our backline and who ever is our first pick would be four good ins and take out 4 at the bottom would make a massive difference.

Richo was again banging on about Sylvia the other night. I wonder if he knows something or just trying to get his message across. And i agree with Richo saying he needs a spark to get his mojo back and with quality around him he would be a perfect fit for us instead of wallowing in a crappy team like he is.


Raises a few questions. Putting together a very quick line up:

FB: Newman Rance Morris
HB: Grimes Chaplin Astbury/Batchelor
CT: Grigg Martin Houli
HF: Sylvia Cloke Deledio
FF: Vickery Reiwoldt Edwards
FL: Maric Cotchin Foley
IT: Ellis Tuck Helbig/Conca/Nahas/Dea/King/Jackson

- Do you play Astbury or Batch down back? getting very tall down there with Rance, Chaplin, and Grimes, so is Astbury too much?

- Up forward with Vickery, Reiwoldt, and Cloke, is there still a spot for Griffiths? Again, play him, and we are VERY top heavy up forward

- Interesting one is Sylvia. Allows O'Hanlon to develop, gives us more flexibility playing Edwards, and allows us to be less dependant upon rotating Cotchin/Martin/Deledio forward

- King and Jackson become much harder to fit into this side (if at all)
 

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Raises a few questions. Putting together a very quick line up:

FB: Newman Rance Morris
HB: Grimes Chaplin Astbury/Batchelor
CT: Grigg Martin Houli
HF: Sylvia Cloke Deledio
FF: Vickery Reiwoldt Edwards
FL: Maric Cotchin Foley
IT: Ellis Tuck Helbig/Conca/Nahas/Dea/King/Jackson

- Do you play Astbury or Batch down back? getting very tall down there with Rance, Chaplin, and Grimes, so is Astbury too much?

- Up forward with Vickery, Reiwoldt, and Cloke, is there still a spot for Griffiths? Again, play him, and we are VERY top heavy up forward

- Interesting one is Sylvia. Allows O'Hanlon to develop, gives us more flexibility playing Edwards, and allows us to be less dependant upon rotating Cotchin/Martin/Deledio forward

- King and Jackson become much harder to fit into this side (if at all)
If we don't get Cloke, Griff gets his spot. If we don't get Sylvia, try and put Knights there.

And I'd give Batch the spot over Astbury.
 
Raises a few questions. Putting together a very quick line up:

FB: Newman Rance Morris
HB: Grimes Chaplin Astbury/Batchelor
CT: Grigg Martin Houli
HF: Sylvia Cloke Deledio
FF: Vickery Reiwoldt Edwards
FL: Maric Cotchin Foley
IT: Ellis Tuck Helbig/Conca/Nahas/Dea/King/Jackson

- Do you play Astbury or Batch down back? getting very tall down there with Rance, Chaplin, and Grimes, so is Astbury too much?

- Up forward with Vickery, Reiwoldt, and Cloke, is there still a spot for Griffiths? Again, play him, and we are VERY top heavy up forward

- Interesting one is Sylvia. Allows O'Hanlon to develop, gives us more flexibility playing Edwards, and allows us to be less dependant upon rotating Cotchin/Martin/Deledio forward

- King and Jackson become much harder to fit into this side (if at all)


Tipping if all the planets align, if Chaplin comes into the team, Rance will play HB with Grimesy taking a BP or even the other HB and griff takes CHB, with Chaplin at FB.
Grimesy and Rance on each side of CHB would be a killer. Mobile, line breakers that have some height..
 
lets just say that the "important" get will be Chaplin. Even taking into account the slows that are about here on Chaplin, he is a big unit that can play FB. Once we have that t crossed, then we can look further down the ground. At the end of the day, with getting a Chaplin in, we kind of get ourselves out of the desperate need for a CHF, since then we still can play Griff there, with the inclusion of Chaplin. We dont want to be in the situation where we are bent over to get Cloke..because we know how badly we need a CHF.
 
Tipping if all the planets align, if Chaplin comes into the team, Rance will play HB with Grimesy taking a BP or even the other HB and griff takes CHB, with Chaplin at FB.
Grimesy and Rance on each side of CHB would be a killer. Mobile, line breakers that have some height..

my only worry is a Grimes/Griffith/Rance HB line is massive. Assume you have Morris and Newman in the pockets, we will be really vulnerable to teams with multiple goal kicking smalls (i.e. bloody Eddie Betts and his mates).
 
my only worry is a Grimes/Griffith/Rance HB line is massive. Assume you have Morris and Newman in the pockets, we will be really vulnerable to teams with multiple goal kicking smalls (i.e. bloody Eddie Betts and his mates).
the way teams set up nowadays, we can have Morris and whoever sitting in pockets or somewhere in our BL and one of the wings drops back from there. Not proposing anything, just think that after watching the pace that Grimes and Rance have and how they can break lines, IMO, that HB line would be a real weapon for rebounding...then you add the third man up stuff, if one of Chaplin or Griff need help, Morris and Newman buzzing around at ground level...i dont think its to shabby..
the one thing about Grimesy and Rance, they cover ground like smalls. That is a big weapon..
 

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It to me has become glaringly obvious that we have to get Cloke!.We have a massive hole at CHF & Jack cannot be expected to carry the forward line on his own unless we want to burn him out.Which leads to the other main reason, we don't want to burn out the Mullet! Getting Cloke frees up Vickery to play more in the ruck.It is a win win allround.The club has started to advertise that it is about us being GREAT.We have stuck fat with over 52,000 members , we have rasied 5.5 mill for the FTF with a major reason being able to recruit a 'Big Fish'.Well Cloke is the biggest fish out there.The club has to & owes us i feel in doing everything possible to land Cloke..Cloke helps us become GREAT he is the perfect fit for our needs as a club right now..Yes it going to come at big $ price but that is a price we just have to be prepared to pay!.





Is this the fish your refeering to?
 
Throw Cloke in our forward line and Chaplin into our backline to help out, draft 3 mids with our first 3 pciks in the top 30 and we can all start preparing to actually go to the footy in September in 2013 instead of sitting on our arses or taking holidays.

Brings back the memories of us going for Nathan Brown and selling the farm to get him then our next few picks we went for a few blokes that barely played any games from memory, we went on to win the coveted spoon in 2004:(

The more I think back now to this trade the less I want Cloke. It's putting it all on black that partly got us to where we are today
 
Cloke Chaplin Sylvia. Of the 3 of them the 2 that I would most like are Chaplin & Sylvia, which may surprise some. But hear me out. Chaplin & Sylvia IMO fill bigger holes than Cloke does. The way I see it we need KPD help and we need more midfield depth, especially midfielders who can kick goals and Sylvia can certainly do that. If we were to land those 2 it would allow for Griffiths to move back to CHF and with the return of a fit Vickery & Foley plus another preseason into the likes of Morris Ellis Conca Martin Batchelor & Grimes(also returning) we should have a pretty decent lineup heading into the season.

FWIW here is a side with Chaplin and Sylvia coming in:

B: Grimes Chaplin Newman
HB: Houli Rance Batchelor
C: Morris Martin Ellis
HF: Deledio Griffiths Sylvia
F: Edwards Riewoldt Vickery
R: Maric Cotchin Tuck
INT: Grigg Conca Foley Astbury

Just missing out are: Nahas King Jackson Dea Helbig O'Hanlon Arnot Elton Post plus the kids we take in the drafts.
 
Cloke would offer us far more than Chaplin. If he came over Griffiths would just continuing developing as a defender. Was looking okay there before injury. Seems unlikely though, don't want to get my hopes up. Chaplin seems locked in which limits us a bit.
 
Cloke would offer us far more than Chaplin. If he came over Griffiths would just continuing developing as a defender. Was looking okay there before injury. Seems unlikely though, don't want to get my hopes up. Chaplin seems locked in which limits us a bit.
As good as Griffiths looked at CHB, I'm not sure he is a genuine lock down defensive option and that is what we need to truly become a contender. Chaplin has shown in the past that he can do that sort of job and along side Rance and Grimes would give us 3 genuine KPDs. I also think we would get more value out of Griffiths kicking with him taking grabs up around the wings/midfield where he 60m bombs can go over the top of zones quickly.

Having said that if they were to announce that Cloke had in fact signed with us, I would be doing cartwheels.
 

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