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Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

The simple fact is that if any other player on the team kicked 3 goals we'd be singing his praises - Trav does it and these idiots get stuck into him.

If Lonergan doesn't get 25 disposals but stops his man we love him...if Varcoe doesn't get 25 disposals but kicks 3 goals we crucify him...if Pods/Stokes/Menzel/SJ/Tomahawk kicked 3 goals we'd be singing their praises.

Some blokes get the hardball (Selwood) and don't kick goals, some blokes (Varcoe) hang outside and finish the job.

Very well said. We need all parts of the machine to fire.
 
Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

The simple fact is that if any other player on the team kicked 3 goals we'd be singing his praises - Trav does it and these idiots get stuck into him.

If Lonergan doesn't get 25 disposals but stops his man we love him...if Varcoe doesn't get 25 disposals but kicks 3 goals we crucify him...if Pods/Stokes/Menzel/SJ/Tomahawk kicked 3 goals we'd be singing their praises.

Some blokes get the hardball (Selwood) and don't kick goals, some blokes (Varcoe) hang outside and finish the job.


But noone has crucified him like your rather emotive post suggests. People have noted that his form seems a bit down from what we were seeing last season and have been wondering why that is so. His little cameos like in last weeks game are great. We have been trying to genuinely discuss what is going on. Then people like you come in and think we are trying to bagg him and chuck a hissy fit/tanty about it, but don't actually contribute anything to the conversation in any other way. :rolleyes:
 
Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

Easy! they really weren't his goals! First one was thanks to Bundy, etc etc.
Apart from recieving when the boys dug deep in the third, he did ditto, got very lucky, maybe enough to save his skin.
His third goal was after he'd pulled out, then recieved it back, very lucky indeed, all thanks to his teamate.
Often its like having 17 men on the ground with him out there.
Scotty won't tollerate the soft outside type to long, guess its a matter of time IMO.
Like to see him dropped for Menzel next week.

All this talk of getting old
It's getting you down my love
Like a cat in a bag, waiting to drown
This time you're comin' down
And I hope you're thinking of Trav
As you lay down on your side
Now the drugs don't work
They just make you worse
But you know you'll see him in the team again


His third goal was a left foot snap on the run after misjudging a mark ( not pulling out )

i thought the pass wasnt accurate....and the goal, on his opposite foot no less.
 

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Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

I don't have the benefit of seeing the Boys live but I also wonder if his role has changed slightly? In 2010 he had a period when he spent a lot of time on the ball in successive games and managed to get 20+ possessions per game. Varcoe is a player who you notice getting 20+ because he is such a smooth user and his class impresses so much.

But has his role changed in 2011 - are guys like Kelly and Stokes getting more time on ball at Varcoes expense? I think the 3rd 1/4 on Friday illustrates why we all want him to get the footy and be more consistent but is his role more a flanker or pocket in which case 12 -15 disposals is more like a good game?

But it's not even about him getting 12 possessions or 20, and make no mistake his third quarter was brilliant. It's the constant avoiding of any contact whatsoever that's frustrating. His tackling used to be the strongest part of his game now he simply won't do it. That's what we're querying more than anything else.
 
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But noone has crucified him like your rather emotive post suggests. People have noted that his form seems a bit down from what we were seeing last season and have been wondering why that is so. His little cameos like in last weeks game are great. We have been trying to genuinely discuss what is going on. Then people like you come in and think we are trying to bagg him and chuck a hissy fit/tanty about it, but don't actually contribute anything to the conversation in any other way. :rolleyes:

Have even u been reading the thread? Get off your high horse.
 
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Varcoe seems to be brilliant at reading the play before it unfolds, pretty much a natural trait that the aboriginal boys possess and he been involved in many important matches, who do you reckon got the ball to Chappy for 'that' most important goal in the 2009 GF?

Gotta remember he's finally starting to gain strength in those shoulders too and is one of the games most electric players infront of goal. He's getting better each week and hopefully he follows the same path as his lookalike in the current NBA playoff series because he's proven all doubters wrong;)
 
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maybe we should drop Selwood ? i noticed he didn't get a touch during the times he was sitting on the pine. NOT GOOD ENOUGH !

______

havin' a laugh
 
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Last time I checked we were 8 and 0.....

that is 8 wins and 0 losses, much of them against the top teams in the league, both at home and away.

Now, are we really spending our time ragging on a bloke who kicked 3 goals in a quarter?

With acknowledgements to his disappearing skills at times, and his indecision at times, what the bloody hell do you people want?

12 goals a game and 40 possies?

Point is, he is coming off the shoulder. He is still a young player. He will get better. Cryil Rioli is much the same is he not... should he be dropped too?
Not everyone is GAJ or Selwood....

We have been spoiled with our riches of talent and sometimes I think people are a bit clouded by the high level we have and the expectation is that everyone will be superstar. They might, but not yet....

8 and 0 people...

Long way to go granted and now is not the time for complacency, but between Hawkins, Varcoe and Mackie there is a HELL of a lot of noise here.....

And they can get better for sure but wow.....

Could be a Doggies or Saints fan..... see my point...

GO Catters...
:D
 

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you are the worst offender. You have the maturity of a 12 year old with the tone and content of your posts. You really contribute nothing to the discussion at all other than being a smart arse.:thumbsdown:



Oh well excuse me sir. Should I go and stand in the corner?

Who the hell do you think you are? Maybe your just supporting someone who has been around the place as long as you have been..but someone else said " get off your high horse "... and I endorse that sentiment now more than ever.I will refrain from being far more blunt.


You can attack me all you like. The content of my posts are entirely supportive of a player I believe is being targeted, with unfair, prejudiced and inaccurate summations from people who have a set against a player who contributes to our success.

Its not me who questions his commitment,....its not me who questions his courage...its not me who questions his desire...or who questions his ability....yet you choose to make patronising post attacking me for defending the player in question.

There's an ignore function...if you dont like what I say.....use it.

I don't give a shit either way.
 
Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

Sorry Dave,

I still think he should go!

But I like the way he snaggs thoughs outside recieves he gets.
 
Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

Sorry Dave,

I still think he should go!

But I like the way he snaggs thoughs outside recieves he gets.



I think we have agreed to disagree on Varcoe a long time ago meto. :)

But we do agree on Mackie I see... :eek:
 
Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

8 and 0 people...

Long way to go granted and now is not the time for complacency, but between Hawkins, Varcoe and Mackie there is a HELL of a lot of noise here.....

Could easily be 4 and 4 but for goal here and there.

There are players in our team who are weaker than others and therefore their place gets questioned from time to time.

Especially considering we are not just trying to make the 8, we are trying to win flags at the moment. It is legitimate to talk about players who fans feel might cost us badly when the finals heat is on.

As to what is wanted from Varcoe, pretty easy. A more consistent effort and harder at the ball and the man that what he is currently delivering.
 

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Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

Worst game I've seen Trav play for a long long time tonight.

Not sure what is wrong with him. Might be time for a spell.
 
Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

He was very poor tonight. A lot of guys had poor starts tonight, but he didn't pick up when everyone else did. Don't know what the answer is.
 
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something is not right with him. It has been going on for weeks now. But I am told I am wrong by David the Brat so we must all be imagining it. Geelong are 9-0 so that apparently means everyone is playing fantastic footy.:rolleyes:
 
Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

Worst game I've seen Trav play for a long long time tonight.

Not sure what is wrong with him. Might be time for a spell.

You're talking treason criticising Varcoe on these boards. He's beyond reproach to some.

Whatever physicality he managed to gain over the last year or so has well and truly disappeared now. I can't recall seeing as insipid a performance. At least he won't need an icepack.
 
Re: Calls for Varcoe to be dropped

I wouldn't drop him. Sub next week, could be very important against a hungry and improved Dogs, and then fresher for the Hawks.

But where was he tonight? Almost as if he was there to keep his opponent away from the action.
 
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