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Martin and a Rance are elite, Cotchin is not. I think most non-Richmond fans would agree with that.
Grimes elite as is Jack..three Coleman medals not bad
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Martin and a Rance are elite, Cotchin is not. I think most non-Richmond fans would agree with that.
Then explain why opposition supporters freely admit Martin and Rance are elite? If us saying Cotchin is not elite was down to us not liking Richmond then surely that would mean we could not say Martin and Rance are elite as well?
Grimes elite as is Jack..three Coleman medals not bad
Martin is the best so even the most salty find it hard to formulate anti dusty arguments
Rance cops heaps by the nuffties
that Lynch bloke is pretty handy too
To me I think Richmond fans have massive blinkers on with Cotchin. It is really only Richmond fans who are saying Cotchin is elite, everyone else is saying he is a very good player but nothing more than that. Richmond have 2 elite players, and Cotchin is not one of them.
Ridiculous isn't it. Cotch has clearly gone past Hodge now.Cotchin in the same conversation as Hodge....
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Cotchin in the same conversation as Hodge....
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It would be pretty hard to say Richmond has no elite players while reality's slapping you in the face with the premiership cup.
Up until recently it was quite common to say you only had 4 good players.
Common, but obviously wrong in hindsight?
Montage of each centre clearance involving Trent done.
should be live soon on YouTube.
Common, but obviously wrong in hindsight?
Can't win a brownlow if you're not elite
Well you could, look at Woewodin (although I've always thought he deserved his Brownlow, he had an amazing year).
As a player I'd say Cotchin was elite (he's still very good), but now he's elite as a leader. Which has become almost more important.
Yeah but i have been told by many Richmond fans that Dusty is currently the best in the AFL because of his Norm Smiths and how important they are... Going by that logic i would assume Hodge is in a different class to Cotchin.chimp does it from the guts
how long has hodgey been hiding in a back pocket? decade now?
Come on. Hodge has always been considered as one of the greatest leaders to ever play the game. But he has never been considered as the greatest, most skilful footballer. An elite leader, but not an elite footballer.Yeah but i have been told by many Richmond fans that Dusty is currently the best in the AFL because of his Norm Smiths and how important they are... Going by that logic i would assume Hodge is in a different class to Cotchin.
I mean it depends on what you are judging i spose? Hodge was a really nice, beautiful, reliable kick. Strong and long handball, good in the air, reads the game better than just about anyone i have seen. I feel how highly his leadership was rated actually took away from how talented he was seen to be.Come on. Hodge has always been considered as one of the greatest leaders to ever play the game. But he has never been considered as the greatest, most skilful footballer. An elite leader, but not an elite footballer.
And Cotchin? For years was laughed at as a leader, but his football skills were never in doubt.
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