Trent Cotchin vs Steele Sidebottom

[Super Hans]

Who do you think is currently the better player?

 

[Adam H]

Trent Cotchin and it's not close.

 

[scaryness]

Sidebottom.

Cotchin massively overrated from his excellent 2012 season.

 

[CarnDaTigg's]

Cotchin by so far it isnt funny. He is criminally underrated after his career worst game in the Elimination Final

 

[CollarJazzKnee]

Cotchin has the accolades, but I love sidey. Just a natural footballer. Would love him at the cats.

 

[Gosha]

Ugh.

 

[Stylo]

Sidebottom.

Cotchin massively overrated from his excellent 2012 season.

You know he's won 3 Jack Dyer Medals?

 

[kozi]

Wow these just keep on getting better.

Next up will be Cotchin vs Jackson Merrett.

 

[ManOfClay]

You know he's won 3 Jack Dyer Medals?

I thought they had been renamed Joel Bowden Medals?

I'd probably rather Sidebottom for the Bulldogs if I had to pick. More versatile, we have cotchin's type covered

 

[CasuallyDressed]

Sidey lives for the big games while Cotchin runs hiding away from them.

Wouldn't swap them.

 

[kozi]

Cotchin is an ineffective crab.

yeh.. nah

 

[ManOfClay]

Well that single highlight from a game against the mighty Gold Coast settles it....

 

[kozi]

Well that single highlight from a game against the mighty Gold Coast settles it....

Just like that one bad game whilst being tagged by one of the most in form taggers in the comp settled it the other way.

 

[cotter101]

I lie Cotchin, I do. I'll go with Sidebottom. I really like him, for a Collingwood player anyway.

 

[ManOfClay]

Just like that one bad game whilst being tagged by one of the most in form taggers in the comp settled it the other way.

Or how about the one standout season surrounded by years of being an accumulator without the true hurt factor of real superstars?

Cotchin is at the moment a bit like Matthew Boyd in his prime.

 

[scaryness]

yeh.. nah

Looks good.

But the first guy that tackled him was lying on the ground injured after being kneed by his teammate, and the other tackler laid one of the worst tackle efforts I have seen.

 

[kozi]

Or how about the one standout season surrounded by years of being an accumulator without the true hurt factor of real superstars?

Cotchin is at the moment a bit like Matthew Boyd in his prime.

One of the worst comparisons you could make.

A guy that's always played in and under getting his own ball vs a true accumulator. Cotchin hardly gets any easy ball, far from an accumulator.

 

[swiftdog]

Probably Cotchin. Although, I'd rather Sidebottom come September, proven finals performer.

 

[ManOfClay]

One of the worst comparisons you could make.

A guy that's always played in and under getting his own ball vs a true accumulator. Cotchin hardly gets any easy ball, far from an accumulator.

It's really not one of the worst comparisons. You're either very young or just ignorant.

Boyd is a three time best and fairest, one of those won in a team comfortably superior than Cotchin-era Richmond. He is also a dual AA.

Looking at Boyd's second AA year, 2011, against Cotchin's 2012 (unfortunately the extended stats are not available for Boyd's 2009 when he won a best and fairest in a team that narrowly missed the grand final) and Boyd won more of the ball, won more contested possessions and won more clearances. Comfortably too. So much for Boyd not getting his own ball.

The Cotchin v Boyd comparison is apt. Cotchin is overhyped, especially by Richmond supporters.

 

[Adam H]

Well that single highlight from a game against the mighty Gold Coast settles it....

Listen to you the bloke that posted Boyd taking a mark on a small defender to prove a point.

 

[Adam H]

It's really not one of the worst comparisons. You're either very young or just ignorant.

Boyd is a three time best and fairest, one of those won in a team comfortably superior than Cotchin-era Richmond. He is also a dual AA.

Looking at Boyd's second AA year, 2011, against Cotchin's 2012 (unfortunately the extended stats are not available for Boyd's 2009 when he won a best and fairest in a team that narrowly missed the grand final) and Boyd won more of the ball, won more contested possessions and won more clearances. Comfortably too. So much for Boyd not getting his own ball.

The Cotchin v Boyd comparison is apt. Cotchin is overhyped, especially by Richmond supporters.

Oh dear god when teams start sitting a tagger on Boyd let us know.

 

[kozi]

It's really not one of the worst comparisons. You're either very young or just ignorant.

Boyd is a three time best and fairest, one of those won in a team comfortably superior than Cotchin-era Richmond. He is also a dual AA.

Looking at Boyd's second AA year, 2011, against Cotchin's 2012 (unfortunately the extended stats are not available for Boyd's 2009 when he won a best and fairest in a team that narrowly missed the grand final) and Boyd won more of the ball, won more contested possessions and won more clearances. Comfortably too. So much for Boyd not getting his own ball.

The Cotchin v Boyd comparison is apt. Cotchin is overhyped, especially by Richmond supporters.

People that disagree with you are "either young or ignorant". I'm sure everyone will take that as a strong argument.

This post just completely contradicted yourself as you said Boyd in his prime was an accumulator. Now you're trying to make the case he was a was a contested ball gun.

It seems you don't even know what point you're trying to make.

 

[ManOfClay]

People that disagree with you are "either young or ignorant". I'm sure everyone will take that as a strong argument.

This post just completely contradicted yourself as you said Boyd in his prime was an accumulator. Now you're trying to make the case that he was a was a contested ball gun.

It seems you don't even know what point you're trying to make.

He was an accumulator. As Cotchin is. How they gets the ball is irrelevant. Boyd never had the hurt factor of players like Pendlebury in his day, just like Cotchin doesn't have the hurt factor now. At least Boyd had players like griffen and Cooney to distribute to.

If anything those stats show Cotchin is just a Boyd-lite.

 

[ManOfClay]

I guess the point I was really trying to make is even in his best year Cotchin wasn't really that much of a "tough inside ball winner" compared to other similar types.

Hell, liberatore's 2014 is more of an example of that kind of player. Less overall disposals but more CP and clearances.

Of course, that's just using bulldog player examples because shock horror that's the team I see the most of

 

[kozi]

He was an accumulator. As Cotchin is. How they gets the ball is irrelevant. Boyd never had the hurt factor of players like Pendlebury in his day, just like Cotchin doesn't have the hurt factor now. At least Boyd had players like griffen and Cooney to distribute to.

If anything those stats show Cotchin is just a Boyd-lite.

Teams relentlessly tag Cotchin. Boyd never gets a hard tag. I wonder why that is?

Surely they tag the hell out of Cotchin because he's just an accumulator without the capabilities to hurt them.

This simple fact pretty much obliterates your Cotchin vs Boyd comparison.