Recommitted Tristan Xerri [contracted and requested a trade to St Kilda, didn't get there]

[Gosaints12]

You can have Tom Campbell

No. Don’t think we will.


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[buttox]

I've got no issue with the Roos wanting to hold him to his contract if they genuinely see him as their first ruckman once Goldy retires.

He's a contracted player and the ball is in Norths court.

If he still wants to leave in 12 months time though he will have next to no value.

If Goldy retires by then he may decide to stay though.

North fans seem to be split about him. Some seem very happy to let him walk while others are wanting to hold him to his contract.

Looks like Rawlings is currently in the camp ofnthe latter.

I think we would all prefer to keep him over Tom Campbell.
22year old vs 29 year old.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

The mixed messaging from supporters is astounding - well which way is it?

You bought CCJ across with promised ruck time, as he sees himself as a ruckman first and foremost, so is he your No. 2 Ruck to pair with Goldy in 2022?
Does the 12-18 month timeframe you have stated for Edwards line-up with when Goldy is going to retire so that he can become your No. 2 Ruck?
If CCJ is in your plans moving forward, where is the need for Xerri in all of this?
He already has issues playing the 2nd ruck role and sees himself as a ruckman first and foremost as well

The only possible reason to hang on to him is to try and get some value draft pick wise because he is contracted, but frankly I don't see anything changing in the next year playing wise to suggest that he is going to be given the opportunity to ultimately replace Goldstein.

You can't play all of Larkey, CCJ, and Edwards in the forwardline, and thats not even factoring in Comben who is spoken of fondly.

Xerri doesn't fit in, so it seems counterintuitive to be blocking his movement to try and get a Pick 30 over a Pick 60.

A reasonable analysis. Outside of posturing in an attempt to get a better trade, maybe the club are reluctant to let him leave as we don't really have mature backup in the no.1 ruck position. Campbell is not up to it and the others outside of Xerri are too raw. If Goldy goes down we are screwed but on the other hand, does that matter as we are last anyway. I'm sure North will explain their rationale after the trade period ends.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

I'd much prefer for us to pick up Archie Smith

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for free rather than cough up anything of value in a trade for Xerri.

 

[diddley1984]

So, what’s the chances that this trade will happen today?

 

[Taylor]

There might be an argument to be made for unrestricted free agency to apply to anyone offered a deal below a certain value - to lubricate deals like this where contracted depth players are seeking other opportunity.

Assuming North don't offer him the (let's make up a number) $250,001 a year extension so he doesn't qualify as an unrestricted free agent then North would be more inclined to trade him to get some value now over no compensation next year as he moves - but then St Kilda would look at all options there too.

I'm not sure whether a player should need to be paid above the unrestricted free agency threshold in order for the player to qualify, I lean towards that being the case because otherwise depth can flee clubs to even worse deals just to be closer to home and the spirit of a rule like this would be that the AFLPA has decided that a club not valuing you above a certain $ figure means they don't value you enough to hold a contract over you.

 

[Lore]

There might be an argument to be made for unrestricted free agency to apply to anyone offered a deal below a certain value - to lubricate deals like this where contracted depth players are seeking other opportunity.

Assuming North don't offer him the (let's make up a number) $250,001 a year extension so he doesn't qualify as an unrestricted free agent then North would be more inclined to trade him to get some value now over no compensation next year as he moves - but then St Kilda would look at all options there too.

I'm not sure whether a player should need to be paid above the unrestricted free agency threshold in order for the player to qualify, I lean towards that being the case because otherwise depth can flee clubs to even worse deals just to be closer to home and the spirit of a rule like this would be that the AFLPA has decided that a club not valuing you above a certain $ figure means they don't value you enough to hold a contract over you.

I think instead of setting a dollar amount it should be when you get offered a deal that’s worth less than your previous deal, or not offered one at all.

So young ones that get hit by the injury stick and don’t get the pay rise they were hoping for, older ones that come off their last big contract, whatever.

Would mean like Ben Brown would be a free agent last year after the offer was rescinded, and anyone who was traded at some point and only spent 4 years at their second club before their salary dropped off would also be eligible, like maybe an O’Meara or something?

Only issue then is when a club decides they don’t want a good player because of off-field issues and don’t offer a contract, they might not get full value in a trade coz they’re a free agent.

Not sure either of these things help a contracted Xerri though

 

[Taylor]

I think instead of setting a dollar amount it should be when you get offered a deal that’s worth less than your previous deal, or not offered one at all.

So young ones that get hit by the injury stick and don’t get the pay rise they were hoping for, older ones that come off their last big contract, whatever.

Would mean like Ben Brown would be a free agent last year after the offer was rescinded, and anyone who was traded at some point and only spent 4 years at their second club before their salary dropped off would also be eligible, like maybe an O’Meara or something?

Only issue then is when a club decides they don’t want a good player because of off-field issues and don’t offer a contract, they might not get full value in a trade coz they’re a free agent.

Not sure either of these things help a contracted Xerri though

I like that. It would add a lovely layer of complexity to list management. Imagine a first round pick signing their two year extension on $450,000 a year and then not playing as much as they would like, like you said potentially injured, and then their next offer being $400,000 - Free agent. First round pick walks to another club.

The value clubs sign their players to will be far more considered knowing they have to offer $1 more next contract or they lose them.

Clubs not offering deals to players and then trading them is crazy.

It won't help Xerri, but all those future Xerris it could open doors for.

 

[Northernsoul74]

I'd much prefer for us to pick up Archie Smith for free rather than cough up anything of value in a trade for Xerri.

He retired didn’t he?

 

[Sphynx]

Doubt this gets done, but it might just be posturing until the last hour as is the case sometimes.

Club probably genuinely wants to keep him.

 

[Groater]

So, no news is good news

 

[The Nostradamus]

So, no news is good news

Seems like staying so good for us

So, what’s the chances that this trade will happen today?

Not high unless it’s a player swap involved as meaningless draft picks won’t do it

 

[Elmer_Judd]

So, what’s the chances that this trade will happen today?

Extremely unlikely I would have thought.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

He retired didn’t he?

Pretty sure he just departed Brisbane to seek opportunity at another club

 

[Joffaboy]

Extremely unlikely I would have thought.

yes it seems unlikely. Saints for better or worse are locked into a player who sounds like Len Kong (can't use his real name as GCS get a fit of the vapours) in 2022 and basically don't have the currency that North require.

A bit like the way Long and Battle had interest but no decent offer at all and both are contracted.

Difference I suppose is that Xerri has nom'ed the Saints. Saints have been good at honouring their promises to players nominating a trade to them in the past couple of years, 5 in 2019, 2 in 2020, I doubt their reputation will get much of a whack if they walk away from this one

 

[Lore]

Beveridge still going with this one not going to get done. Was saying it this morning but you'd think there would be some movement since then... apparently not enough.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Beveridge still going with this one not going to get done. Was saying it this morning but you'd think there would be some movement since then... apparently not enough.

Probably not happening. The club was a bit surprised by the request and needed to have a chat with him about first ruck duties after Goldy next year.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Given he is still contracted and lack of decent trade capital the Saints have this season, this deal was always going to be very hard to get done.

A future pick (maybe 3rd rounder) probably would have gotten a deal done if he was OOC.

As we are starting to see in recent years, especially this year with Clark and Hill, clubs are playing hardball with contracted players.

 

[BrutThough]

Tom Morris reports...

Tristan Xerri

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2.5

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’s proposed move to St Kilda appears to be all but dead.

While neither party could categorically say it was off on Wednesday afternoon, there was no indication the Saints or Roos would budge.

St Kilda was prepared to part with a future third rounder, but North Melbourne was adamant Xerri, who has played 12 senior games in four seasons, is worthy of a future second rounder.

The ruckman is contracted at Arden Street for another season but is likely to have limited opportunities following the arrival of Callum Coleman-Jones

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6.0

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7.0

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3.0

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5.0

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0.0

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13.0

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6.0

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7.0

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3.0

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5.0

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.

St Kilda had offered a two-year deal to lure him across, but the Roos have dug their heels in, much to the surprise of the Saints and Xerri’s management.

North is also yet to offer an extension to match St Kilda’s offer.

AFL deadline day wrap: Freo, Swans land key targets in late rush as other deals fall over

Deadline day wrap: Freo, Swans land key targets in late rush as other deals fall over

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Lore]

Looks like some movement...

 

[Libbaaaa]

Give me what North are smoking wanting a 2nd round pick. Xerri is up there with one of the most uncoordinated footballers I have ever seen.

 

[Lore]

 

[The Nostradamus]

Give me what North are smoking wanting a 2nd round pick. Xerri is up there with one of the lost uncoordinated footballers I have ever seen.

We clearly see him replacing Goldy 34 next year

we will run a CCJ and Xerri duo going forward maybe as soon as 2023

I still think player swap was the only way this was getting done

like Xerri plus a pick for Battle

 

[Merlin007]

Give me what North are smoking wanting a 2nd round pick. Xerri is up there with one of the most uncoordinated footballers I have ever seen.

It's called a contract, lots of lawyers have them

 

[deedog2]

Either way, f*&k I hope he wins an AA spot at some stage...