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Ok. How about this? If a meteorologist says it’s going to rain all day and instead the sun shines all day, am I allowed to say he was wrong?
That is a forecast that encompasses a degree of uncertainty. It's not presented as a fact.

You're deeply unsophisticated in the way you process information, aren't you?

It's like you want everything to be as dumb as possible so it's easier for you to understand. Is that why you're sceptical of expertise?

Basic Bruce.
 
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That is a forecast that encompasses a degree of uncertainty. It's not presented as a fact.

You're deeply unsophisticated in the way you process information, aren't you?

It's like you want everything to be as dumb possible so it's easier for you to understand.

Basic Bruce.
Meteorologists claim a high degree of prophesy and certainty, so that if their modelling (there's that word again) does come true (almost never, unless the whole country can already see it for themselves) they can't be blamed for not "warning" people. The words "catastrophic" and "rain bomb" are recent additions to their alarmist vocabulary. The BoM aren't known as the Bureau of Maybeology for nothing.
 

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Meteorologists claim a high degree of prophesy and certainty, so that if their modelling (there's that word again) does come true (almost never, unless the whole country can already see it for themselves) they can't be blamed for not "warning" people. The words "catastrophic" and "rain bomb" are recent additions to their alarmist vocabulary. The BoM aren't known as the Bureau of Maybeology for nothing.
It's still a weather forecast. It's not a fact.
 

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If modelling is so frequently just guesswork should we always trust it?
Who says it's "just guesswork"? Do you really think you understand the methodology sufficiently to conclude that?

Why pretend you have the expertise to dismiss folks who do in fact have some expertise? Is it just some fashionable bullshit that allows you to ignore people who know more than you?
 

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Who says it's "just guesswork"? Do you really think you understand the methodology sufficiently to conclude that?

Why pretend you have the expertise to dismiss folks who do in fact have some expertise? Is it just some fashionable bullshit that allows you to ignore people who know more than you?
I don’t know more but can’t help observations. Do you agree that modelling generally points to the most “extreme” outcomes, extreme in the sense that if their forecasts fall short, a) modellers are blamed for not getting it right; or b) everyone is relieved that things aren’t as bad as they expected?
 

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I don’t know more but can’t help observations.
WTF does that mean?

Do you agree that modelling generally points to the most “extreme” outcomes, extreme in the sense that if their forecasts fall short, a) modellers are blamed for not getting it right; or b) everyone is relieved that things aren’t as bad as they expected?
These are sweeping generalisations, so no I don't agree without specific examples.
 

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WTF does that mean?

These are sweeping generalisations, so no I don't agree without specific examples.
I see toilets at golf clubs barred for a couple of days then unbarred, for a start. Where does modelling come in there? See, it's the illogicality of some rules that casts doubt over others. Most of these health directions come from CHOs who have studied the modelling and decided on certain measures, to try to control or prevent spread, I get that. I also realise blanket rules, stupid or not (like wearing masks alone outdoors), are for psychological purposes and ease of control. They don't want people finding loopholes or excuses not to comply, as far as possible. Then the pollies weigh in when they see the "directions" have maybe gone too far. That's just how it looks to me.
 

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I see toilets at golf clubs barred for a couple of days then unbarred, for a start. Where does modelling come in there? See, it's the illogicality of some rules that casts doubt over others. Most of these health directions come from CHOs who have studied the modelling and decided on certain measures, to try to control or prevent spread, I get that. I also realise blanket rules, stupid or not (like wearing masks alone outdoors), are for psychological purposes and ease of control. They don't want people finding loopholes or excuses not to comply, as far as possible. Then the pollies weigh in when they see the "directions" have maybe gone too far. That's just how it looks to me.
And this is why we shouldn't trust science?
 

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I see toilets at golf clubs barred for a couple of days then unbarred, for a start. Where does modelling come in there? See, it's the illogicality of some rules that casts doubt over others. Most of these health directions come from CHOs who have studied the modelling and decided on certain measures, to try to control or prevent spread, I get that. I also realise blanket rules, stupid or not (like wearing masks alone outdoors), are for psychological purposes and ease of control. They don't want people finding loopholes or excuses not to comply, as far as possible. Then the pollies weigh in when they see the "directions" have maybe gone too far. That's just how it looks to me.
Just sitting there watching toilets again?
 

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it's the illogicality of some rules that casts doubt over others
Illogical to you. And if your expectation is that every rule has a cast iron guarantee that it’s effective then you’re going to be confused about it. Some precautions are just based on possibilities and a conservative approach. Some places may be overzealous. Some may be slack. The evidence may not be 100%, but the possible ramifications of ignoring the evidence may be huge.
 

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I see toilets at golf clubs barred for a couple of days then unbarred, for a start. Where does modelling come in there? See, it's the illogicality of some rules that casts doubt over others. Most of these health directions come from CHOs who have studied the modelling and decided on certain measures, to try to control or prevent spread, I get that. I also realise blanket rules, stupid or not (like wearing masks alone outdoors), are for psychological purposes and ease of control. They don't want people finding loopholes or excuses not to comply, as far as possible. Then the pollies weigh in when they see the "directions" have maybe gone too far. That's just how it looks to me.
That's a concerning admission.
 

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Mate you can slice it and dice it any which way you like.

Ive never seen Tucker Carlson advocating segregation. You advocate for segregation on a daily basis.
Dude. Wake up.


During a segment on the September 22 episode of his show, while criticizing President Joe Biden's handling of the US southern border, Carlson said Biden was trying to "change the racial mix of the country" and "reduce the political power of the people whose ancestors lived here and dramatically increase the population of Americans newly arrived from the third world," echoing the fundamentals of the conspiracy theory.

"This policy is called the great replacement," he continued. "The replacement of legacy Americans with more obedient people from faraway countries."
 

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Dude. Wake up.


During a segment on the September 22 episode of his show, while criticizing President Joe Biden's handling of the US southern border, Carlson said Biden was trying to "change the racial mix of the country" and "reduce the political power of the people whose ancestors lived here and dramatically increase the population of Americans newly arrived from the third world," echoing the fundamentals of the conspiracy theory.

"This policy is called the great replacement," he continued. "The replacement of legacy Americans with more obedient people from faraway countries."
Every act and policy of the Biden Administration points to exactly that. Or at least has that as an outcome.

Now there's an argument to be had about whether that is a good or a bad thing. But it's undeniable that it's a thing. Tucker thinks it's bad. Others think it's good.

But that isn't the point. The biggest voice for segregation and authoritarianism on this forum, or at least the most repetitive, is the one calling everyone who disagrees with him Nazis.
 

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