Opinion Twelve Records That Are Safe

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Procrastinator35

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not an achievement lol

Not really....Not in football terms, No.

Really? It's not like he's some wild outlier - there are four players on six.

There's half a dozen current players who have played finals in ten years or more, and with player management and sports science getting better (not to mention the financial incentive) it's quite conceivable that 15 - 20 year careers could be increasingly common, which would put this record under threat.

Yes, really.....Those 4 other players on 6 played in eras where there were only 10 & 12 sides respectively; And where dynasty's were far more common than in the modern era, where equalisation of the playing field is the norm.

You don't seem to have made a single point of any significance - so far as a counter goes - here at all.
 

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Not really....Not in football terms, No.



Yes, really.....Those 4 other players on 6 played in eras where there were only 10 & 12 sides respectively; And where dynasty's were far more common than in the modern era, where equalisation of the playing field is the norm.

You don't seem to have made a single point of any significance - so far as a counter goes - here at all.
For a start, it doesn't have to be a dynasty - players can change clubs, you know?

The competition has been around for 120+ years, and could easily go for another 120. You think that in that time, there will never be another player to win seven premierships?
 

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For a start, it doesn't have to be a dynasty - players can change clubs, you know?

The competition has been around for 120+ years, and could easily go for another 120. You think that in that time, there will never be another player to win seven premierships?
There's only been 1 in 120 years of football & there are now far more teams than there ever has been prior.....Tuck is also only 1 of 4 to have played in over 400 games, so longevity is also another key to it.....I suggest you do the math.
 
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Unless the quarters are lengthened back to what they used to be, I'd say that Geelong's 37.17.239 will never be broken.

Nobody will get near Michael Tuck's 426 games- probably 375 or 380 would be the limit these days.

And I think it's a fair bet nobody will win the flag from last place again.
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"Unless the quarters are lengthened back to what they used to be, "
A common misunderstanding. When quarters were '25 mins', how 'time-on' was calculated was different so the clock was sometimes running when the ball was not actually in play. Quarters nowadays often go over 30 minutes (so as there is always 20 minutes with the ball in play) whereas before the change, it was rare. However the ball is in play about the same time and certainly not in play for 5 fewer minutes each quarter.

Since the change in 1994 the highest score has been Geelong's 37.11-233 in 2011. Lower scoring in recent times are due to factors beyond how time-on is calculated - e.g. eveness/uneveness of the competition, game plans and tactics - plus playing conditions.

Average scores '25 min' quarters:
1943-1967: 77.7 pts
1968-1993: 99.5 pts
Average scores '20 min' quarters:
1994-2019: 92.0 pts.

As for 1916, at the start of season it was decided that all 4 teams would play in the finals with the truncated season of 12 'first round' matches played to see which team would finish on top of the ladder and have to be beaten twice in the finals to take the Premiership. Fitzroy although finishing last on the ladder played 1st finishing Carlton 6 times for 3 losses and 3 wins - including the necessary 2 wins in the finals. Plenty of other Premiers have had worse seasons records against the team that they beat in the Grand Final. (17 Premiers only win against the runner-up have been in the Grand Final.)
 

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