News Two AFL executives resigning

[jackess]

Why should we control our lust/desires if it is consensual?

Because it's a conflict of interest if you're ****ing one of your employees. If they're both in it for the right reason there would not be a problem but given that they were not honest about it they clearly weren't.

How would you like it if somebody you worked with got a promotion over you and you knew they were having an affair with your boss? Or if you lost your job and they didn't?

 

[MacMum]

The world and hence the workplace will never be perfect, this sort of shagging has been going on since man first walked on the planet. We are creatures of emotion, desires, lust etc. it is in our DNA, female and male. Shagging is an enjoyable pastime and form my experience women enjoy it just as much as men, or maybe more.

I won't use the expressions you have used, I'm a lady!

...there is a bit more involved than just um holding er hands in the bedroom. There are the reasons outlined in above posts, of which I agree.....but this is the one I'm very strong on, respect and commitment to one's partner.

If you find someone you wish to jiggy with in the bedroom, then do the right thing and break off with the existing partner. If you don't do that, then it is a betrayal of the highest order imo.....and deceitful, a trust that will be lost forever if found out.

If certain urges visit you, take yourself off to the loo and um.. deal with it......or you could lose more than your job.


...amazing the destruction a mere 4-6 inches can cause....and it's a worldwide epidemic too

 

[Lace Out]

They are the exact words my late father said to me when I was around 17 years old.

An old Christian Brother gave us that gem.Sadly,it may have been first hand advice.

 

[M Malice]

Because it's a conflict of interest if you're ******* one of your employees. If they're both in it for the right reason there would not be a problem but given that they were not honest about it they clearly weren't.

How would you like it if somebody you worked with got a promotion over you and you knew they were having an affair with your boss? Or if you lost your job and they didn't?

Life is complicated and messy, situations like this bob up all the time all over the world and it will never change unless we turn into some sort of emotionless society ah la the move Equilibrium.

I would probably kick up a stink and follow the process.

 

[Elixuh]

It's about inappropriate dealings relative to their position at the afl and abuse of power. Not about the execs having an affair or w.e.

 

[jackess]

Life is complicated and messy, situations like this bob up all the time all over the world and it will never change unless we turn into some sort of emotionless society ah la the move Equilibrium.

I would probably kick up a stink and follow the process.

What are you talking about? You realise this was a secret affair right and not a fairytale romance?

Also, it sounds like someone did kick up a stink and this is the process.

 

[M Malice]

I won't use the expressions you have used, I'm a lady!

...there is a bit more involved than just um holding er hands in the bedroom. There are the reasons outlined in above posts, of which I agree.....but this is the one I'm very strong on, respect and commitment to one's partner.

If you find someone you wish to jiggy with in the bedroom, then do the right thing and break off with the existing partner. If you don't do that, then it is a betrayal of the highest order imo.....and deceitful, a trust that will be lost forever if found out.

If certain urges visit you, take yourself off to the loo and um.. deal with it......or you could lose more than your job.


...amazing the destruction a mere 4-6 inches can cause....and it's a worldwide epidemic too

100% agree with all of that MM.

Note- Unless the existing partner is OK with it, which I have heard does happen.

 

[M Malice]

What are you talking about? You realise this was a secret affair right and not a fairytale romance?

Also, it sounds like someone did kick up a stink and this is the process.

I may have miss heard the presser but I thought Gill said the women involved didn't make a complaint.

 

[jackess]

I may have miss heard the presser but I thought Gill said the women involved didn't make a complaint.

She didn't. Another employee did. Just as you said you would.

 

[Elixuh]

I may have miss heard the presser but I thought Gill said the women involved didn't make a complaint.

Apparently it was known in the office.

 

[dlanod]

She didn't. Another employee did. Just as you said you would.

I would too. It'd stink of potential favouritism in the workplace, and it's pretty easy to envision yourself getting screwed (pun semi-intended) because you're not sleeping with one of the higher ups.

 

[Gadzorks]

I may have miss heard the presser but I thought Gill said the women involved didn't make a complaint.

But someone was publicly reduced to tears as a result of it - they confronted the manager and got yelled at.

If they were confronting 're perceived favouritism between the manager and the young lady it is a big problem. other staff witnessed the conflict and will have opinions on it. This type of event can quickly divide a workplace and create a toxic atmosphere.

The manager has a responsibility to maintain a harmonious and productive work unit. They have failed.

 

[M Malice]

I can see the conflict here guys, I just think the moral side of it is between the people involved and their families.

I view it similar to same sex relationships ie. it is nobodies business but the people involved.

Maybe I'm concentrating too much on the broad subject of consenting adult relationships and not being nuanced enough, that I will concede.

 

[dlanod]

I can see the conflict here guys, I just think the moral side of it is between the people involved and their families.

I view it similar to same sex relationships ie. it is nobodies business but the people involved.

Maybe I'm concentrating too much on the broad subject of consenting adult relationships and not being nuanced enough, that I will concede.

I agree on the moral side. If two people want to run off and have affairs I don't really care.

It's the workplace element that is the trick. Did you get passed over for promotion because of merit, or more nefarious reasons? They're not forcing these people to break up. They're just removing them from that problematic space. It's ok to have sex. It's not ok to have sex in the Queen St Mall (I assume). People would get removed from the mall as a result.

 

[M Malice]

I agree on the moral side. If two people want to run off and have affairs I don't really care.

It's the workplace element that is the trick. Did you get passed over for promotion because of merit, or more nefarious reasons? They're not forcing these people to break up. They're just removing them from that problematic space. It's ok to have sex. It's not ok to have sex in the Queen St Mall (I assume). People would get removed from the mall as a result.

I agree, even though it is consensual you would be affecting other people and probably minors.

 

[Elixuh]

I would too. It'd stink of potential favouritism in the workplace, and it's pretty easy to envision yourself getting screwed (pun semi-intended) because you're not sleeping with one of the higher ups.

We have all heard the rumblings about your appointment as mod.

 

[jackess]

We have all heard the rumblings about your appointment as mod.

And what he gets up to at Queen st. Mall

 

[Dalions]

Just as long as they don't get Mark Evans back...

Whats the bet they'll be after Noble.

 

[SizeMatters]

Been happening since the dawn of time and occurs in every major business.

 

[Skoob]

Been happening since the dawn of time and occurs in every major business.

Paedophilia happens in every city...

 

[dlanod]

Paedophilia happens in every city...

Odd choice of analogy.

 

[3KZ is Football]

The two executives have resigned and had their private lives dragged into the media. I feel sorry for them. They have not broken any laws, yet they have been placed in the "media stocks." We are not in a position to know the state of their marriages prior to the affairs but we shouldn't rush to judgement and immediately conclude they are predatory males abusing their 'power' in the workplace, until we have evidence of this. Maybe they were lonely, their marriages may have been on their last legs, perhaps they had been pursued by the young women who found them attractive or initiated the relationships. Who knows? Either way, I do feel sorry for their wives, who must be in a lot of pain right now, I also feel sorry for the young women concerned, who also may have been in other relationships and had partners who expected fidelity, in which case, I feel sorry for them too. No winners here.
My take on this is more in line with the "French" perspective on relationships between consenting adults than the more prurient "Anglo" view. Time for the media to move on and not make matters worse?

 

[Crusha]

I won't use the expressions you have used, I'm a lady!

...there is a bit more involved than just um holding er hands in the bedroom. There are the reasons outlined in above posts, of which I agree.....but this is the one I'm very strong on, respect and commitment to one's partner.

If you find someone you wish to jiggy with in the bedroom, then do the right thing and break off with the existing partner. If you don't do that, then it is a betrayal of the highest order imo.....and deceitful, a trust that will be lost forever if found out.

If certain urges visit you, take yourself off to the loo and um.. deal with it......or you could lose more than your job.


...amazing the destruction a mere 4-6 inches can cause....and it's a worldwide epidemic too

Glad you left me out of this MM........




....(Sorry, couldn't resist)

 

[brizrider]

Years ago I was a supervisor of a sometimes problem staff member (male) that was having a fling with my female boss. It wasn't fun for all kinds of reasons. Obviously it was crap trying to manage a staff member whose performance wasn't great when they could privately go over my head or manipulate things. On top of that my boss spent 9 months descending into being an unreliable idiot who was more interested in the relationship, the not-so-secret little work hours hookups and all the rest of the drama of it than doing any proper work.

 

[winged1]

She didn't. Another employee did. Just as you said you would.

That's a cockblock and a half.