News Two AFL executives resigning

[Carlos Danger]

They had to go, Its all in the grading

Intentional contact - high impact to the groin = resignation

 

[Dom PC]

I can't believe a press conference was necessary. There should have been a small statement released to the press and that's that.

Cheating isn't illegal. But in an environment where we ask our players to be so professional, I think it's fair to apply the same standards to head office.

 

[jackess]

I can't believe a press conference was necessary. There should have been a small statement released to the press and that's that.

Cheating isn't illegal. But in an environment where we ask our players to be so professional, I think it's fair to apply the same standards to head office.

Lethlean was one of the highest senior figures. Him getting fired is a huge deal.

 

[winged1]

They had to go, Its all in the grading

Intentional contact - high impact to the groin = resignation

Gold


Edit: I had to make up a story to my son because he was asking why I was laughing.

 

[Dom PC]

Lethlean was one of the highest senior figures. Him getting fired is a huge deal.

Still, not sure making it a big show stopping press conference is really helping anyone.

 

[T Rick]

I have a very black and white view on this. Adults are adults and can do whatever they want with and to each others bodies. Who is the arbiter of what is moral and what is not.

Not sure anyone is arguing your point about consenting adults. The issues of concern are about workplace relations, culture, staff morale, integrity of decision making (or perceptions therein) etc. I am assuming that some of the above have come into play in the decision that has been made for them to depart.

 

[bewsta]

I can see the conflict here guys, I just think the moral side of it is between the people involved and their families.

I view it similar to same sex relationships ie. it is nobodies business but the people involved.

Maybe I'm concentrating too much on the broad subject of consenting adult relationships and not being nuanced enough, that I will concede.

I think this is well-intentioned but this sounds like a same-sex couple should have to hide their relationship as if they are a cheating heterosexual couple.

If it's something you wouldn't say about a straight, non-cheating couple, don't say it about a gay, non-cheating couple.

 

[M Malice]

I think this is well-intentioned but this sounds like a same-sex couple should have to hide their relationship as if they are a cheating heterosexual couple.

If it's something you wouldn't say about a straight, non-cheating couple, don't say it about a gay, non-cheating couple.

It was coming from a well intentioned place bewsta, the point I was trying to get across was that what same sex couples or any other consenting adults do is nobody else's business. The hiding aspect did not even enter my mind.

 

[Skoob]

Odd choice of analogy.

The logic is the same. It happens... and so? I thought it was an odder comment to say "It happens everywhere".

 

[M Malice]

It's started, David Noble's name has just been mentioned on SEN as a possible replacement. Surely not AFL, leave him alone.

 

[M Malice]

The logic is the same. It happens... and so? I thought it was an odder comment to say "It happens everywhere".

Pedophilia is abhorrent and illegal, sex between consenting adults isn't, drawing a long bow IMO Skoob.

 

[Skoob]

The two executives have resigned and had their private lives dragged into the media. I feel sorry for them. They have not broken any laws, yet they have been placed in the "media stocks." We are not in a position to know the state of their marriages prior to the affairs but we shouldn't rush to judgement and immediately conclude they are predatory males abusing their 'power' in the workplace, until we have evidence of this. Maybe they were lonely, their marriages may have been on their last legs, perhaps they had been pursued by the young women who found them attractive or initiated the relationships. Who knows? Either way, I do feel sorry for their wives, who must be in a lot of pain right now, I also feel sorry for the young women concerned, who also may have been in other relationships and had partners who expected fidelity, in which case, I feel sorry for them too. No winners here.
My take on this is more in line with the "French" perspective on relationships between consenting adults than the more prurient "Anglo" view. Time for the media to move on and not make matters worse?

Nonetheless, they are mature people in positions of power and responsibility. As I said earlier, even if they were seduced or preyed upon, in terms of their jobs, they were obliged to behave or conduct themselves in a professional manner. Their roles in the AFL were untenable. If it were a one off fling, perhaps a moment of weakness could be somewhat forgiven, but neither was a single incident. At best, it was a silly decision to engage in an affair, at worst it demonstrates a level of integrity unfitting for the job.
The moral aspect and state of their marriages is irrelevant.

 

[Skoob]

Pedophilia is abhorrent and illegal, sex between consenting adults isn't, drawing a long bow IMO Skoob.

I wasn't comparing the two acts. I was illustrating the crazy logic of saying "It happens", like that somehow makes it okay. The fact that it goes on, in absolutely no way has a bearing on the rights and wrongs of it.

 

[dlanod]

The logic is the same. It happens... and so? I thought it was an odder comment to say "It happens everywhere".

One comment is odd. The other one implies some kind of analogy between paedophilia and affairs/concealment thereof. I accept that it wasn't deliberate, but that's how it reads given the context.

 

[Skoob]

One comment is odd. The other one implies some kind of analogy between paedophilia and affairs/concealment thereof. I accept that it wasn't deliberate, but that's how it reads given the context.

I should have used the facetious emoji. No analogy, as there is no comparison in seriousness. Just a comment on the logic.

 

[lions27]

It's started, David Noble's name has just been mentioned on SEN as a possible replacement. Surely not AFL, leave him alone.

heck surely he is needed here for at least a couple more seasons

 

[M Malice]

glory be surely he is needed here for at least a couple more seasons

Yep, don't want to lose him, BTW he was mentioned on the coverage on channel 7 tonight as a front runner as well.

 

[BuntonRules]

Silver lining would be someone in that position with first hand knowledge of the challenges we face.

 

[SizeMatters]

I wasn't comparing the two acts. I was illustrating the crazy logic of saying "It happens", like that somehow makes it okay. The fact that it goes on, in absolutely no way has a bearing on the rights and wrongs of it.

Wasn't implying it was okay. Personally I'm indifferent and I don't really care what two consenting adults get up to in their bedrooms/offices/cars/bushes... however, office affairs have happened in the past and it will happen again in the future. Not a lot that can be done about it TBH.

 

[Hollow Knight]

If we lose Noble as a result of these suits who can't keep their dick in their pants...

 

[SizeMatters]

If we lose Noble as a result of these suits who can't keep their dick in their pants...

I see both parties involved are at fault. Not just one side...

 

[Hollow Knight]

I see both parties involved are at fault. Not just one side...

Yes but Noble won't be replacing an intern.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Simon Lethlean vs Kurtley Beale.

Not exactly evenly matched.

 

[Saucery]

Still, not sure making it a big show stopping press conference is really helping anyone.

You have met the AFL right?

 

[MacMum]

I see both parties involved are at fault. Not just one side...

It's only one side that could affect us..

...and I see now that a 3rd exec could be in trouble as well. Hope Gil's rap sheet is clean.

When do these people do any work for heavens sake?....and paid a hefty wage to boot!