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[Long Live HFC]

Considering it was a large part of what I studied, yes I have read many of them. Not all but the majority.

Smiling Buddha. well this is awkward.

 

[Probitas_]

Smiling Buddha. well this is awkward.

He won't believe it anyway he's already called me a government shill on another board.

 

[Long Live HFC]

He won't believe it anyway he's already called me a government shill on another board.

ahhh hahahahha. yeah, everyone that disagrees with him eventually gets that treatment

 

[Sublime]

He won't believe it anyway he's already called me a government shill on another board.

Ahh haven't been raised to the esteemed Strawman level yet i see. Amateur.

 

[Smiling Buddha]

The anti-vaxxers are dangerous terrorists

See what TV does to people?

He won't believe it anyway he's already called me a government shill on another board.

Link to this accusation?

 

[Probitas_]

See what TV does to people?

Link to this accusation?

Somewhere in the Santa Barbara thread I think it was. Did you read any of those studies I linked you?

 

[Illinois Nazi]

As if you have even read any of them yourself lol.

Brilliant comeback.

 

[Sublime]

I'm curious on what the chemicals in the 'immunisations' do to us if they're not actually to keep disease at bay? They must have some purpose. Can anyone who is against vaccinations please help?

 

[Scotland]

Smiling Buddha when called out.

 

[Keys]

I think the whole thread would benefit from one of the pro-forced chemical concoction injection crowd offering up some evidence.

Not entirely certain why I chose this post of yours to quote SB but it'll serve my purpose.

Like the vast majority of people I lack the specific education to truly understand the chemistry of vaccinations or their potential side affects so it becomes a necessity for me to place a level of trust in the experts to not deliberately set out to harm me or my children and to the contrary actually try to help. My acceptance of vaccines is based on the undeniable fact that diseases like smallpox, whooping cough and polio have been all but eliminated thanks to vaccinations. Now there may or may not be some risks associated with those vaccines and the extent of the side effects is open to question.

My own view is that, on balance, we are better off as a society with vaccinations than without and the danger of people opting out is that a critical mass of unvaccinated people develops that reduces the effectiveness of mass vaccinations. Should people decide not to vaccinate that is their choice but as part of a society they are essentially saying their rights outweigh the rest of society which is an act of selfishness in that they are prepared for others to take the risk, however small, but refuse to do so themselves.

A common criticism of yours in this thread is the unqualified acceptance by pro-vaccers of what they are fed by big government/pharma which in many cases is justified. In contrast, the anti-vaccine crowd champions those who question the established norms/challenge the evidence provide by those who promote vaccination and openly decry the vaccination regime as part of a brainwashing conspiracy. How many anti-vac people do you think actively question those that they support/believe to the same level as they question those they deride as "experts'

My point is that those who challenge others to open their eyes or think for themselves have the same propensity to accept without question the claims of those they agree with that they accuse others of doing when it comes to the opposite viewpoint. You have criticised the government for banning Dr Tenpenny from speaking in Australia and despite her spreading an arguably dangerous message it does become a slippery slope when governments ban people from speaking for no other reason than they don't like what they are saying. That said how do you think a representative from a pharmaceutical company would be received at a Dr Tenpenny lecture if they were allowed to speak?

TLDR - you openly dismiss people who accept the pro-vaccination evidence as being brainwashed whilst those that challenge it have opened their eyes and can think for themselves when in reality they are just as likely to accept what those who oppose vaccination say without scrutiny

 

[BluesMan]

Anti-vaccers are generally Illuminati believers. No coincidence either.

 

[Private Hudson]

I bet this Smiling Buddha dude will be the type of person to treat cancer with an organic vegetable diet.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

That is more than enough these days, with 'multicultural rounds' and the gay agenda forced down peoples throats.

And if you don't watch tv, where do you get your information? Please, I would like to know. Facebook perchance?

The gay agenda...how dare those homosexuals want equal rights!

 

[Affidavit]

It's hilarious that this even needs to be spoken about. Like really....

 

[Flash of power]

See what TV does to people?

Link to this accusation?

Its got nothing to do with TV, they are threatening the safety of a nation. Australia is currently at risk of a measles outbreak, would be very interesting to see how anti-vax you remain after a good dose of preventable measles.

 

[Long Live HFC]

I think the whole thread would benefit from one of the pro-forced chemical concoction injection crowd offering up some evidence.

As if you have even read any of them yourself lol.

you're a dishonest little shit, hey?

 

[Smiling Buddha]

Like the vast majority of people I lack the specific education to truly understand the chemistry of vaccinations or their potential side affects so it becomes a necessity for me to place a level of trust in the experts to not deliberately set out to harm me or my children and to the contrary actually try to help.

Which means that you trust the government and big pharma. Which, with the greatest of respect, makes you a naive fool. I am not sure how much more blatant their disregard for your wellbeing has to be before you realise that government and big pharma DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU, in fact those at the top of the control grid openly despise you. And yet you trust what they inject into your children, without even asking to see proof that there is no long-term harm.

Naive and foolish in the extreme.

My own view is that, on balance, we are better off as a society with vaccinations than without and the danger of people opting out is that a critical mass of unvaccinated people develops that reduces the effectiveness of mass vaccinations. Should people decide not to vaccinate that is their choice but as part of a society they are essentially saying their rights outweigh the rest of society which is an act of selfishness in that they are prepared for others to take the risk, however small, but refuse to do so themselves.

You want other people to be forced to have chemical concoctions injected into them so that YOUR chemical concoction injections become effective? Do you not see how absurd that sounds?

As for your remarks about 'anti-vaxxers' being followers, I would imagine that there are some out there who haven't taken the time to look into things properly for themselves. In my anecdotal experience however, all of the 'anti-vaxxers' I know were originally tv zombies like myself (and just about everybody else on this forum) and therefore went along with the pro-vaxx nonsense until they DID do some research.

We know what it is like to trust tv and government, and we know what it is like to realise that THEY ARE LYING TO US.

You have criticised the government for banning Dr Tenpenny from speaking in Australia and despite her spreading an arguably dangerous message it does become a slippery slope when governments ban people from speaking for no other reason than they don't like what they are saying. That said how do you think a representative from a pharmaceutical company would be received at a Dr Tenpenny lecture if they were allowed to speak?

I believe Tenpenny would have loved to have debated a pharma company representative, and I also believe a pharma company rep wouldn't be stupid enough to take up any offer to debate somebody like Tenpenny.

We will never know because Tenpenny was banned, while big pharma reps have direct access to our politicians. And you people support this shit. The power of school indoctrination and tv is truly phenomenal.

 

[Gough]

How did you feel about the FODI being forced to cancel the speech on honour killings last year?

 

[Doss]

Still no alternative theory as to how we eradicated smallpox, then? Or have virtually done the same to polio?

 

[Gough]

Still no alternative theory as to how we eradicated smallpox, then? Or have virtually done the same to polio?

It has something to do with not watching television I think.

 

[Long Live HFC]

As if you have even read any of them yourself lol.

still waiting....tick tock.

 

[Smiling Buddha]

Still no alternative theory as to how we eradicated smallpox, then? Or have virtually done the same to polio?

1) How many injections are newborn infants in Australia expected to have nowadays?

2) How many of those specifically deal with smallpox?

If you cannot answer either of those two questions, then you have not done ANYWHERE NEAR enough research to be telling others what to inject into their kids.

 

[Long Live HFC]

3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.

 

[Doss]

1) How many injections are newborn infants in Australia expected to have nowadays?

2) How many of those specifically deal with smallpox?

If you cannot answer either of those two questions, then you have not done ANYWHERE NEAR enough research to be telling others what to inject into their kids.

No, stop dodging the question.

How was smallpox eradicated?

 

[Probitas_]

I would imagine that there are some out there who haven't taken the time to look into things properly for themselves.

So you've read those links that I posted then? The ones you asked for?