Roast Tyson Stengle sacked after ****ing up again

[BunjiMac]

Damn I'd definitely be unemployed if I were judged on the photos I've been in.

 

[CharlieCrow]

We can all look back wistfully at what might have been, had we kept him, but my reaction, at the time, was to sack him immediately. And wasn't he caught with B Crouch at the same time? I would have sacked him as well.

Usually the first instinct is the right one, unless there is a very very compelling case that can be made. Perhaps that case may have been raised if we had given Eddie a call. Who knows?

Glad he has made good though.

 

[Mutineer]

How do you know this?.

Can you name the “numerous” KPi’s he failed to reach please..

And name all the other “more than 3’s”… as his police record only shows 2 indescretions. The DUI in an unregisted vehicle and the cocaine possesion…

What were the others?..

That poster has a history of knowing a bit about what's going on with a lot of the young footballers especially the indigenous lads if you check his posting, likely because he's based over on the far west coast Ceduna I think where a lot of them have family ties.

 

[AFC979810]

Damn I'd definitely be unemployed if I were judged on the photos I've been in.

Luckily for you - you aren't a big fish in a tiny bowl.

 

[Bearded Clam]

The third incident is the photo with Cocaine after his first two indiscretions.

So…

Did the police charge him with anything in regards to that?..

No.. because it was a photo of him sitting on a couch. And thats not illegal in this country regardless of what could or couldnt be in front of him on a plate that could or could not have been his.

The police had no evidence and no intentions whatsoever to even bother trying to gather any.

Like I said.. Its all about the optics with our club.. they would rather cut and run and avoid any media scrutiny instead of circling the wagons around one of our players and telling the media go and get fxxked.

No wonder the media treat the club with disdain.. the club is a soft, easy target that says “how high” as soon as the media asks it to jump..

The crows are utterly terrified of any bad publicity and the media know it and use it to their advantage to create story’s around any sniff of controversy surrounding the club. The media knows the club will simply roll over and accept it.

Its pathetic.

if Stengle was still a Tigers player when these incidents occured they wouldve told the media to GAGF’d immediately.. they have done so several times in the last few years when a Tigers player has done something wrong..

Has this been bad for the Tigers culture and the Tigers as a club???…

Pfffft… they can capture any potential tears they might shed over it in those three big shiney new fxxkin cups they’ve got..

 

[WheresGroomgone]

How do you know this?.

Can you name the “numerous” KPi’s he failed to reach please..

And name all the other “more than 3’s”… as his police record only shows 2 indescretions. The DUI in an unregisted vehicle and the cocaine possesion…

What were the others?...

As Mutineer pointed out I know Tyson, his family and his close mates - my own lads are a similar age and mix in the same social groups. Sadly for AFC it didn't sink in but now it looks like he has committed to playing serious AFL footy.

 

[Slippery Pete]

totally incorrect - it was actually more than 3 plus numerous failures on KPIs.

I don’t understand how this is a point in the club’s favour though?

If he’s a problem child at the Crows, and then not at Geelong, the common denominator is not Stengle. It’s the Crows.

 

[Mutineer]

So…

Did the police charge him with anything in regards to that?..

No.. because it was a photo of him sitting on a couch. And thats not illegal in this country regardless of what could or couldnt be in front of him on a plate that could or could not have been his.

The police had no evidence and no intentions whatsoever to even bother trying to gather any.

Like I said.. Its all about the optics with our club.. they would rather cut and run and avoid any media scrutiny instead of circling the wagons around one of our players and telling the media go and get fxxked.

No wonder the media treat the club with disdain.. the club is a soft, easy target that says “how high” as soon as the media asks it to jump..

The crows are utterly terrified of any bad publicity and the media know it and use it to their advantage to create story’s around any sniff of controversy surrounding the club. The media knows the club will simply roll over and accept it.

Its pathetic.

if Stengle was still a Tigers player when these incidents occured they wouldve told the media to GAGF’d immediately.. they have done so several times in the last few years when a Tigers player has done something wrong..

Has this been bad for the Tigers culture and the Tigers as a club???…

Pfffft… they can capture any potential tears they might shed over it in those three big shiney new fxxkin cups they’ve got..

The name Daniel Connors ring any bells?

 

[Bearded Clam]

As Mutineer pointed out I know Tyson, his family and his close mates - my own lads are a similar age and mix in the same social groups. Sadly for AFC it didn't sink in but now it looks like he has committed to playing serious AFL footy.

It still doesnt speak to me of a club that is willing to ride out a storm and put the right support mechanisms in place to help a young man, who had found himself in a spot of trouble…

I just think its a massive fail from the clubs point of view..

These are young men being paid huge amounts of money for their age.. they arent all gonna be angels and a fair few of them will find themselves in a spot of bother every now and then..

Nearly every other club rallies around their player when this happens.. not ours.

And I’d love to know why.. but agree with a previous poster that looking at the way the club has been run since 2017 its not hard to see the level of utter incompetence that has been shown is probably the main factor.

 

[Bearded Clam]

The name Daniel Connors ring any bells?

Nope

 

[WheresGroomgone]

I don’t understand how this is a point in the club’s favour though?

If he’s a problem child at the Crows, and then not at Geelong, the common denominator is not Stengle. It’s the Crows.

where did I say it was a point for AFC?

All I posted was that it took Tyson to be playing SANFL being out of his second AFL opportunity to realise what he really wanted and act accordingly.

Of course the common denominator is TS - that's math.

 

[Mutineer]

I don’t understand how this is a point in the club’s favour though?

If he’s a problem child at the Crows, and then not at Geelong, the common denominator is not Stengle. It’s the Crows.

The common denominators are Eddie Betts and Anna Scullie.

 

[Mutineer]

Nope

LOL

Tigers sack Connors, suspend Martin

Richmond has sacked its errant midfielder Daniel Connors and suspended his star teammate Dustin Martin following an undiclosed off-field incident.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Bearded Clam]

Nope

This bloke?

Daniel Connors - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

the bloke stabbed someone with a broken bottle FFS!..

Hardly the same as just snorting a bit of coke!..

No wonder they sacked him!..

 

[Mutineer]

This bloke?

Daniel Connors - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Geezuz.. how far back do you want to go Bicks?..

The 80’s were a lifetime ago.. a completely different era..

And the bloke stabbed someone with a broken bottle FFS!..

Hardly the same as just snorting a bit of coke!..

No wonder they sacked him!..

Same coach...

 

[Bearded Clam]

Same coach...

I got some of the story wrong there..

But he stabbed someone, severing a tendon in the blokes arm bicks..

How is that even comparable to doing a few lines of coke?

 

[Mutineer]

Same coach...

This bloke?

Daniel Connors - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Geezuz.. how far back do you want to go Bicks?..

The 80’s were a lifetime ago.. a completely different era..

And the bloke stabbed someone with a broken bottle FFS!..

Hardly the same as just snorting a bit of coke!..

No wonder they sacked him!..

What utter bullshit that broken bottle incident was 4 year's after he was sacked by Richmond.

 

[Mutineer]

I got some of the story wrong there..

But he stabbed someone, severing a tendon in the blokes arm bicks..

How is that even comparable to doing a few lines of coke?

A lot of the story wrong actually..

The broken bottle incident was 4 year's after Connors was sacked by Richmond.

 

[Rabish Binney]

It still doesnt speak to me of a club that is willing to ride out a storm and put the right support mechanisms in place to help a young man, who had found himself in a spot of trouble…

I just think its a massive fail from the clubs point of view..

These are young men being paid huge amounts of money for their age.. they arent all gonna be angels and a fair few of them will find themselves in a spot of bother every now and then..

Nearly every other club rallies around their player when this happens.. not ours.

And I’d love to know why.. but agree with a previous poster that looking at the way the club has been run since 2017 its not hard to see the level of utter incompetence that has been shown is probably the main factor.

I wonder if the club let Stengle go purely because we would have then been seen to be doing the right thing in the public eye?

Or did they make the decision purely on the "indiscretions"?

 

[Concussion test]

So…

Did the police charge him with anything in regards to that?..

No.. because it was a photo of him sitting on a couch. And thats not illegal in this country regardless of what could or couldnt be in front of him on a plate that could or could not have been his.

The police had no evidence and no intentions whatsoever to even bother trying to gather any.

Like I said.. Its all about the optics with our club.. they would rather cut and run and avoid any media scrutiny instead of circling the wagons around one of our players and telling the media go and get fxxked.

No wonder the media treat the club with disdain.. the club is a soft, easy target that says “how high” as soon as the media asks it to jump..

The crows are utterly terrified of any bad publicity and the media know it and use it to their advantage to create story’s around any sniff of controversy surrounding the club. The media knows the club will simply roll over and accept it.

Its pathetic.

if Stengle was still a Tigers player when these incidents occured they wouldve told the media to GAGF’d immediately.. they have done so several times in the last few years when a Tigers player has done something wrong..

Has this been bad for the Tigers culture and the Tigers as a club???…

Pfffft… they can capture any potential tears they might shed over it in those three big shiney new fxxkin cups they’ve got..

Yes I think you're on the money yet again.

If Eddie or Dimma were on the case they would have explained that it just Tyson enjoying a game of scrabble with some mates and being the perfect host he decided to mix up some dough for a feed of bruschetta.

Media fires doused and everybody just plays on like nothing happened.

 

[Sanders]

He then had two more serious incidents that season.

False.

 

[BRL121]

False.

Welcome back! By the way, why did they send you off?

 

[1970crow]

Damn I'd definitely be unemployed if I were judged on the photos I've been in.

Unless taken during work hours, it's quite unlikely that you could be legally terminated from your employment. Definitely a small % of the population would be in trouble, but not the vast majority.

 

[WheresGroomgone]

It still doesnt speak to me of a club that is willing to ride out a storm and put the right support mechanisms in place to help a young man, who had found himself in a spot of trouble…

I just think its a massive fail from the clubs point of view..

These are young men being paid huge amounts of money for their age.. they arent all gonna be angels and a fair few of them will find themselves in a spot of bother every now and then..

Nearly every other club rallies around their player when this happens.. not ours.

And I’d love to know why.. but agree with a previous poster that looking at the way the club has been run since 2017 its not hard to see the level of utter incompetence that has been shown is probably the main factor.

Yes but it is a bit of a chicken and the egg story...did he perform as well at Richmond or Adelaide as he has this year at Geelong? The answer is a definite no, now you may say it was because of AFC poor engagement or whatever and Richmond didn't need him perhaps - we will never know.

He has benefitted by maturing maybe? Realising this was his last chance perhaps? Better ball movement at Geelong?

It doesn't really matter he wasn't going at 100% at Richmond or Adelaide and now he is, which is excellent.

Every club has players fail every year and will continue to do so - these guys are kids of 18-20 years old - move on mate and get excited about our young talent on the list.

 

[MRB37]

I wonder if the club let Stengle go purely because we would have then been seen to be doing the right thing in the public eye?

Or did they make the decision purely on the "indiscretions"?

I would say once the club drew the line in the sand on what they wanted Stengle to do to get his spot back and he and his management didn't accept it then the clubs hand was forced (and maybe Stengle and management knew it and that's why they said no).

Once you give a player a set of non-negotiables to follow and they flat out say they're not going to do it then there is unfortunately only one outcome.