Uber

[ioppolo]

You're so pretentious. Definitely the type who looks down his nose at people.

I'm surprised you post on here, and you don't see us as beneath you.

On the internet, no one knows you're actaully an unemployed loser.

I mean, he has a history of bullshit stories after all.

 

[Croweater]

You're so pretentious. Definitely the type who looks down his nose at people.

I'm surprised you post on here, and you don't see us as beneath you.

I don't think anyone here is beneath me. Am I discerning with what I spend my money on? Sure. But I don't judge people based on financial status.

I judge people based on actions I deem to be incorrect. Think of it as a version of Will McAvoy's Mission to Civilise. Money doesn't factor into it.

In fact, I challenge you to find a single example where I have told someone that they were worth less than me because of their financial status. And I know that you'll say "it's the way you say things, etc, etc", but I've established ad nauseum how I seldom filter my manner of speaking, and how it isn't meant to come across as self-inflating or on the other hand, condescending. And a lot of the time, my words get twisted around by people who have nothing better to do with their time than to lambast a guy on the Internet, who has over time realised that the only facet of his life that he thought he need not strictly moderate paradoxically and ironically proves the opposite.

And he's now speaking about himself in the third person.

 

[Brad Goodman]

In fact, I challenge you to find a single example where I have told someone that they were worth less than me because of their financial status. And I know that you'll say "it's the way you say things, etc, etc", but I've established ad nauseum how I seldom filter my manner of speaking, and how it isn't meant to come across as self-inflating or on the other hand, condescending. And a lot of the time, my words get twisted around by people who have nothing better to do with their time than to lambast a guy on the Internet, who has over time realised that the only facet of his life that he thought he need not strictly moderate paradoxically and ironically proves the opposite.

I think people subconsciously read your posts in the voice of the bloke in your avatar. He looks down on people because of their financial status without explicitly saying it, so they associate that with you as well.

Obviously the main difference is that Turnbull is self-made, but still.

 

[Croweater]

Obviously the main difference is that Turnbull is self-made, but still.

Yeah, I suppose his upper middle class upbringing and his Sydney Grammar School education had no bearing on his success.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Yeah, I suppose his upper middle class upbringing and his Sydney Grammar School education had no bearing on his success.

A head start yes, but he has clearly expanded on it. I'm not saying you won't too.

 

[Croweater]

A head start yes, but he has clearly expanded on it. I'm not saying you won't too.

I probably won't as much as he has!

Talcum Powder
-Born
-Vaucluse Public
-Sydney Grammar
-University of Sydney
-University of Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship
-Partner at Goldman Sachs (now you're just showing off)
-Trolling the Liberal Party by siding with Rudd on ETS
-Trolling Tony Abbott
-Prime Minister of Australia

Me
-Born
-Shat my pants
-Puked on my mum
-Finger painting
-Pulteney Grammar
-Scotch College
-Shat in the back yard whilst drunk
-University of Adelaide
-Entry-level Law job
-On BigFooty at 1:46pm on a Friday

 

[BALKAN]

Not sure what's more cringeworthy, your attempts to sound upper class or your attempts to back-track and sound like an everyman

 

[Croweater]

Not sure what's more cringeworthy, your attempts to sound upper class or your attempts to back-track and sound like an everyman

Option 3: Your saltiness.

 

[BALKAN]

Option 3: Your saltiness.

 

[Demosthenes]

Anyone who falls over themselves to tell strangers which private schools they went to reeks of insecurity.

 

[thecatattack]

Anyway, back to uber.

I've taken uber x a few times in Melbourne and have absolutely loved it each time.

 

[Duritz]

Is this the new AFS thread?

When does Hurricane Natalie arrive?

 

[Procrastinator35]

Anyone who falls over themselves to tell strangers which private schools they went to reeks of insecurity.

So Brooklyn tech doesn't cut the mustard then?

 

[pugsville]

Uber is generally operating illegally. there are regulations and hire cars and taxis which Uber just avoid because it is "ride sharing". nope it's driving people in cars for a fee. why should a business be able to just opt out of regulations? and not pay the fees which enable that regulation to not cost theta payer?

second tax. the taxi drivers are screwed because there is a specific bit that means all taxi drivers (and hire cars) pay GST from dollar 1, (another business have a $75,000 threshold, the fact that taxi drivers alone are singled out is mammothlyg unfair)
"For other businesses, the GST registration turnover threshold is $75,000. For taxi drivers, including chauffeur driven limousines and hire cars, there is no registration turnover threshold." (ATO)
this tax decision basically gutted the taxi industry overnight. there was a massive exodus when the gst came in. before GST drivers generally knew where they were going.
uber drivers are claiming this does not apply to them. the tax office has said they are the same as taxis. uber drivers are leaving themselves open to massive penalties.

the basic deal for uber is no better for the drivers, and intact worse for the drivers. they have no real rights with uber which can ban or restrict there work, and change the prices whenever they like. the ride fees work out much the same once you take everything into account.

uber will in the long run become just like the main taxi service over time. as the new uber drivers work out how bad it is as a long term career.

if the Australian public want a better taxi service it needs to create a system where the drivers had a viable career.

 

[ioppolo]

Government worker/taxi driver be mad.

 

[jamaican_eagle]

uber's are master race. Keep using it people so that we can get those dickhead cabs out of business

 

[trueblue_91]

Just been legalised in Victoria, $2 levy/tax for uber riders for the next 8 years

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-...ctoria-passengers-to-be-hit-with-levy/7777196

 

[The Lemon]

****ing ridiculous. filthy taxi campaigners

 

[ioppolo]

Taxis have upped their game in Perth it seems. I can actually just hail one when I'm in the city on the weekends now. And the price seems to have dropped.

 

[The Lemon]

Taxis have upped their game in Perth it seems. I can actually just hail one when I'm in the city on the weekends now. And the price seems to have dropped.

It would want to. But seriously **** taxis

 

[PP34]

That levy is just bullshit. Uber will still be cheaper I'd imagine (assuming everything doesn't increase due to legalisation), but that's just a massive pain in the arse.

I'm well and truly a regular Uber user now. Hoping it becomes even bigger here in Victoria, as the only flaw is the occasional lack of cars North-East of the city where I live.

It's become ridiculously popular now. I've found myself lately having to wait around at places longer because of high surges or having to resort to cabs because the surges don't disappear. Tried it for the first time on a Saturday night at around 7pm the other week. That's the only time I genuinely ever hated relying on the service. Surges were outrageous and they kept fluctuating, making you think that they'd piss off eventually. An hour later and I gave up and luckily found a cab just near my street.

Hopefully as a result of the legalisation cabs lift their games. They all whinge about what a disgrace it is that Uber exists, yet they've done absolutely nothing to sway people away from Uber. The 13Cabs app here hasn't been updated or modified since I first downloaded it two years ago, and trying to ring up a cab can be near impossible at times. Provide an app like Uber's where you can see what availability is like in the area and the wait time, and then include some others things in the app similar to what Uber has with reviews, audio selection, the ability to easily contact your driver etc. My mates and I several times this year tried to book cabs on a Saturday/Sunday evening (busy time yes) only to have them not rock up on time or at all despite booking hours or a day or two prior, and then having the cab company having no idea what has happened when we ring them up. They're just incompetent, have got away with it for years and don't want to put the cash and effort in to change their ways now that there's competition.

Uber is the complete opposite. Today waking up and checking my bank transactions after a Saturday and Sunday of getting ubers to and from venues, I was reminded how handy it is. Particularly for a uni student like me who now can spend more money elsewhere due to the savings it provides. I ubered both into the city (about 15km) at a busy time on Saturday night and did the same going home. Then on Sunday ubered about 12km from home to a pub and then back again. Cost me about 95-100 all up for the weekend. The same trips and times would have cost me around 180-200 easily if I used 13Cabs. Then there would've been all the time spent around hoping a cab would show up soon. With Uber the longest I waited was 9 minutes.

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

Just been legalised in Victoria, $2 levy/tax for uber riders for the next 8 years

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-...ctoria-passengers-to-be-hit-with-levy/7777196

To be honest, the levy does make sense. It was legislated that you needed to purchase a super expensive licence to operate a cab, now they've changed that legislation and some form of compensation is warranted.

That said, it will be super interesting to see whether the taxi industry even bothers to improve their game or just slowly withers away and dies.

 

[kickazz]

Uber is generally operating illegally. there are regulations and hire cars and taxis which Uber just avoid because it is "ride sharing". nope it's driving people in cars for a fee. why should a business be able to just opt out of regulations? and not pay the fees which enable that regulation to not cost theta payer?

second tax. the taxi drivers are screwed because there is a specific bit that means all taxi drivers (and hire cars) pay GST from dollar 1, (another business have a $75,000 threshold, the fact that taxi drivers alone are singled out is mammothlyg unfair)
"For other businesses, the GST registration turnover threshold is $75,000. For taxi drivers, including chauffeur driven limousines and hire cars, there is no registration turnover threshold." (ATO)
this tax decision basically gutted the taxi industry overnight. there was a massive exodus when the gst came in. before GST drivers generally knew where they were going.
uber drivers are claiming this does not apply to them. the tax office has said they are the same as taxis. uber drivers are leaving themselves open to massive penalties.

the basic deal for uber is no better for the drivers, and intact worse for the drivers. they have no real rights with uber which can ban or restrict there work, and change the prices whenever they like. the ride fees work out much the same once you take everything into account.

uber will in the long run become just like the main taxi service over time. as the new uber drivers work out how bad it is as a long term career.

if the Australian public want a better taxi service it needs to create a system where the drivers had a viable career.

Yeah it seems to me their business premuse has two prongs, one good, one not so good.

The good: there are all these idle assets (cars) and potential labour being wasted that could be used.

The bad (as you have alluded to): various overheads apply to existing industries (regulation, safety checks, workers comp, superannuation, minimum wages and conditions, insurance, etc) that adds to costs. Uber take the libertarian approach and dispenses with all of this. It saves money and no doubt is better for customers most of the time, until something goes wrong - and then you are ****ed.

Long term drivers are ****ed either way as driverless vehicles take over.

 

[the_interloper]

Not sure what's more cringeworthy, your attempts to sound upper class or your attempts to back-track and sound like an everyman

Well played.

 

[pugsville]

Yeah it seems to me their business premuse has two prongs, one good, one not so good.

The good: there are all these idle assets (cars) and potential labour being wasted that could be used.

The bad (as you have alluded to): various overheads apply to existing industries (regulation, safety checks, workers comp, superannuation, minimum wages and conditions, insurance, etc) that adds to costs. Uber take the libertarian approach and dispenses with all of this. It saves money and no doubt is better for customers most of the time, until something goes wrong - and then you are stuffed.

Long term drivers are stuffed either way as driverless vehicles take over.

All Uber are offering is a despatch service and they are taking much more of the cut than existing despatch services, they are outsources all the costs, the drivers get much what they get from the existing system except they have to obtain and maintain a car as well. (the 80% of a recused fair is remarkably close to 50% of the existing fare)

uber is a complete dictatorship not libertarian, they set prices and can just cut out a driver for no reason what so ever you work only at their conveniance , the Driver is totally dependant without any rights in their dealings with Uber.