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MMA-UFC UFC 231 Holloway vs Ortega

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  1. Rendaw

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    Main Card
    Featherweight Max Holloway (c) vs. Brian Ortega
    Women's Flyweight Valentina Shevchenko vs. Joanna Jedrzejczyk
    Welterweight Alex Oliveira vs. Gunnar Nelson
    Featherweight Hakeem Dawodu vs. Kyle Bochniak
    Light Heavyweight Jimi Manuwa vs. Thiago Santos
    Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)
    Women's Strawweight Cláudia Gadelha vs. Nina Ansaroff
    Women's Flyweight Katlyn Chookagian vs. Jessica Eye
    Middleweight Eryk Anders vs. Elias Theodorou
    Lightweight Olivier Aubin-Mercier vs. Gilbert Burns
    Early Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)
    Light Heavyweight Devin Clark vs. Aleksandar Rakić
    Bantamweight Brad Katona vs. Matthew Lopez
    Welterweight Chad Laprise vs. Dhiego Lima
    Lightweight Carlos Diego Ferreira vs. Jesse Ronson

    Anyone else pumped for this? Iv been wanting to see Holloway vs Ortaga for so long.

    Holloway is hopefully over his issues unless his weight cut goes wrong again. My money is on Ortega with his jiu jitsu and stand up he is the complete package. Either way this fight should be epic.

    I'm on the fence about the other fights but being a numbered event it should be a lot more entertaining than last weekend.
     

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    Main and co main are huge. Main for obvious reasons, really intrigued to see how Joanna goes without the stress of a straweight weight cut. Can't wait.

    Rest of the card is ok without being spectacular.
     
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    Hollyway v Ortega is a cracking fight.

    I honestly dont know who will win

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    Fingers crossed Max gets through the weight cut without any serious issues.
     
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    Hyped for the main event

    Whoever wins is probably going to call out Khabib
     
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    if Ortega wins he should try defending the belt before he looks at moving up divisions

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    Great analysis. I didnt realise that Ortega had such a low take down success rate but **** me he still manages to submits people from a standing position.
     
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    Part of me hopes Max gets stopped from competing if he’s sounding like this. He slurs his words but that’s next level, borderline early onset CTE imo.
     
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    That is really bad. He seems to be getting worse as time goes on.

    He is still so young there is no way he is fighting to late 30s. UFC should do something to protect him and the sport.
     
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    I had Ortega winning this anyway, but the way it’s looking with photos being posted of him this week, Ortega is just going to crush the shadow of him. Medical professionals better keep a close eye on this.
     
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    It's hard to tell if Max is fine or if he's in for another rough one.
    I say cut back on the media stuff. It's too much. The UFC HAVE to be smart here.
    Weight cutting and a shitload of media..yeah nah.
     
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    This has gone under the radar in Aus a bit (i suppose with Adelaide and the Israel v Anderson plus Bones v Gus in the same month its understandable)

    pumped for this card.
     
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    Please make weight guys
     
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    Both made weight, main events on!
     
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    Very interesting fight given the bookies can't even separate them.

    I think Ortega has the edge just on some quick research. He just looks more powerful. By that I mean he has all the big moves that will finish it.
     
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    I might be wrong, but the only reasoning for betting on Ortega and having him favourite is if Max isnt healthy.

    Max has the highest takedown defence in the division and Ortega has the worst takedown completion rate - 14%.

    Standing, it is a night and day difference between the two, with Max far better.

    Ortega has basically lost the vast majority of the rounds he has fought in the Octagon, picking up late stoppages after getting tagged and losing the most of the exchanges.

    He is good, very good! His last three victories show that.. But Max is just way more complete and i struggle to see ortega taking over late in the fight, like he usually does, against a guy who never slows down.
     
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    I would have it at $1.80-$2 in Holloways favour. But your right, with the question marks on his health it becomes a true 50/50 fight.

    Ortega has only ever had one successful taken attempt which is suprising with his high level jj.

    His stats are never that great in fights but he knows how to win. Add in the fact he has never lost and just koed Edgar when no one ever else could and he looks dangerous.

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    I see Holloway and Shevchenko dominating their opponents
     
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    I’m struggling to go past Ortega, the guy finds a way to win every time.
     
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    Especially after he has taken a fair few shots with his poor striking defence.

    I will not be surprised to see him get landed on for two rounds and then snatch Max's neck through the smallest window... it is literally what he does!

    its certainly an intriguing fight!
     
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    I love the betting on this fight. I had Ortega @$2 now I can bet on Holloway @2.02 and profit regardless of the outcome.
     
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    On betting, Lawler at $3.66 against Ben Askren is tempting.

    Askren is going to be really interesting.
     
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