MMA-UFC UFC 284 - Makhachev v Volkanovski

[Topkent]

What's everyone's thoughts on the co main?
Yair to easily outclass him with Emmetts only hope being that one punch ko?

Neither of them interest me v volk anyway. Cejudo is the one that I hope gets the 135 belt and fights Volk, the rest of the division are all so far behind Max

Yair looked really good against Holloway until he didn't, just got a feeling about that straight one down the pipe from Emmett.

 

[Topkent]

Volk and Islam wouldn't give a * about this, and I don't really either but I do find it funny that this is the pound for pound decider, at Islam's weight class. Wouldn't they have to also do it at 145 to do the true pound for pound.

 

[00Stinger]

Doing alcohol promotion, bit of a stretch to being 3 month fight camp ready for a shot at a title.

People have taken title shots on less prep

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[Topkent]

People have taken title shots on less prep

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Oh yeah Bisping won a title doing it on 10 days or something but what a change in opponent to go from training camp makachev to backup Charles. If it's legit Charles must have been training in secret for this.

 

[00Stinger]

Oh yeah Bisping won a title doing it on 10 days or something but what a change in opponent to go from training camp makachev to backup Charles. If it's legit Charles must have been training in secret for this.

I'm sure he would have been doing some sort of training but maybe he isn't the back up

But to totally dismiss it considering how far he has travelled seems silly

 

[the_interloper]

Volk and Islam wouldn't give a * about this, and I don't really either but I do find it funny that this is the pound for pound decider, at Islam's weight class. Wouldn't they have to also do it at 145 to do the true pound for pound.

Yeah probably. I mean if Volk wins he's just cementing P4P #1, Islam would have to win the WW strap to do that I think.

Anyway I think everyone's definitions of P4P varies, I just think of it as the "best" fighter regardless of weight, I wouldn't argue with anyone who said it's Islam if he beats Volk.

 

[Engimal v3]

Volk and Islam wouldn't give a * about this, and I don't really either but I do find it funny that this is the pound for pound decider, at Islam's weight class. Wouldn't they have to also do it at 145 to do the true pound for pound.

Would be cool, kind of like the fights between Angela Lee and Xiong Jing Nan. No chance Islam makes 145 though lol

Pretty crazy that Volk is moving up to 155 in the first place. He's my height, and he cuts to the weight I walk around at.

 

[madjoe]

casual ufc watcher question, how big of a step up (ground wise) is islam compared to ortega? different type of game but is it worlds apart?

 

[Engimal v3]

casual ufc watcher question, how big of a step up (ground wise) is islam compared to ortega? different type of game but is it worlds apart?

Huge. Ortega has great BJJ, but doesn't have a top game like Islam. The main threat from Ortega was his subs (as we saw, twice), but Islam will look to get on top of Volk and finish the fight. Given that Islam's naturally a bigger guy (even talks of him moving to WW), it'll be a tough night for Volk.

It's obviously a huge generalisation, but I like to explain the difference between wrestling and BJJ as offensive grappling vs defensive grappling.

 

[Topkent]

casual ufc watcher question, how big of a step up (ground wise) is islam compared to ortega? different type of game but is it worlds apart?

Ortega gets you when you make a mistake and locks in a submission, Islam forces you into those mistakes and doesn't let you breathe while doing it.

Islam's last fight was against Oliveria, someone who arguably has as good if not better BJJ than Ortega and Islam handled him pretty easily with his wrestling

 

[manureid]

On a plane on way to Perth. Let the fun begin!

 

[catpremier 07]

Seriously keen for this fight. Volkanovski winning would be one of the greatest Australian achievements in sports history. Dont think it happens but never say never.

 

[RobbyRoy]

Anyone over here going to any of the pre-event stuff?

 

[manureid]

Going to try to go to some stuff like the press conference etc. Just not sure what the lines to get in will be like

 

[RobbyRoy]

Volk and Islam wouldn't give a * about this, and I don't really either but I do find it funny that this is the pound for pound decider, at Islam's weight class. Wouldn't they have to also do it at 145 to do the true pound for pound.

Well I mean, it would certainly be the decider for Volk. I would think Islam would have to win at WW for him to actually get that title. It's just an arbitrary rating system though, never been too much logic to it.

 

[RobbyRoy]

Going to try to go to some stuff like the press conference etc. Just not sure what the lines to get in will be like

Non-ticketed at RAC on a Friday arvo, good luck!

 

[RU_]

The $5000 tickets on tixel are really tempting me as someone who lives 12 minutes from RAC.

 

[Crimson Azure]

Only one who can claim P4P from this fight is Volk if he wins.

 

[metic]

weasles just dropped these vids, pretty good as usual





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[Topkent]

Machachev standing next to Rob on the open workout show, he's the same size as Rob almost Jesus..

 

[Topkent]

How good a bloke is Yair. Always said I love a Colby/Khamzat type villain. But you gotta love the humble savage like Yair.

 

[manureid]

Massive crowd at the press conference

 

[Nickos66]

Bobbing up after a week or so absence here, so a few notes:


Oliviera did mutter something in the latest Embedded video that he's not chance to be an alternate, not at the expected weight anyway - so that's not why he's here, it appears.

I like Allen & Topuria at Featherweight as likely contenders in the next 2 years. Don't get me wrong about Emmett & Yair - they're awesome fighters but I don't see either of them ultimately troubling Volk if those fights ever get made.
It should also be noted that Aljo keeps making sounds about being sick of cutting to 135, and being called a weight bully. So look for him to move up sometime in the next year or 2 IMO.

I went to the Open workouts last night, too busy and not well setup to cater for the numbers that turned out.. I don't think they anticipated that turnout at all. I bailed after Islam got off the mic and streamed the rest on YouTube on the train home - it was a better watch on there.


Lastly, i've been Umm'ing and aahhh'ing about whether to go on saturday to the presser, but I think I still prefer to take my boy to Jiujitsu class for our regular routine instead. Sunday morning will be entertaining enough at RAC Arena.

 

[DazalenkoUBewty]

Islam says he wants to KO Volk. Fair enough..he is capable of doing that. But if it gets swingy I see Volk landing big and hard.
Volk via first round KO. Get on it

 

[DazalenkoUBewty]

UFC 284: Pre-Fight Press Conference

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