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thylacine60 said:
the players past club would come into it - any sense of bias would be pounced on - jordan bannister should only ever have officiated at carlton and * games
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I wasn't suggesting bias towards a previous club, but rather a practical bias towards the players when interpreting breaches of the rules, having previously been an AFL player himself/herself.
 
thylacine60 said:
the players past club would come into it - any sense of bias would be pounced on - jordan bannister should only ever have officiated at carlton and * games
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It is an interesting one.

From my personal experience, people with morals tend to err on the worse side when officiating sides they have history with. Probably to overcompensate for any perceived bias.
 
reduce the number of field umpires to 2 and empower the goal and boundary umpires. if they are all connected up then the 3rd umpire can review video.
this does not mean a stoppage every decision. However it would mean that the adjudicating umpire can be assisted with a more correct call.
So the video umpire would see what the TV is showing and could 'commentate' the play, especially around stoppages. it would be background level not unlike the crowd noise.

Anyway just a thought.
 

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Speaking as someone who umpires games in the US (and yes we do have footy here)...it is difficult for us given that we typically have (at most) 2 field umpires. They typically tend to have lower fitness and are often older, retired players. Volunteer basis, no pay.

The real difference (that I wouldn't mind the AFL looking into) is the card system. Yellow card - 15 minutes off the field for that player, immediately replaceable. Red card - player sent off from the game, not replaceable for 15 minutes. I feel comfortable using the yellow card for any kind of umpire abuse, since it basically puts that player in a timeout. The amount of umpire abuse that players in the AFL get away with week in and week out not only cheapens the game, but it makes that somehow more permissible for other players.
 
TCB-1935 said:
Interesting thing about the Daisy abuse is that I agree it should not have occurred but it also pointed out to me yet again just how invested Daisy is in Carlton...he bleeds Blue and I admire the way he gives his all every time he plays.
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If the measure of how much a player wants to be a blue is if they abuse an umpire or not, then I think we have everything wrong. I'd much prefer he get a kick.
 
ajb72 said:
If the measure of how much a player wants to be a blue is if they abuse an umpire or not, then I think we have everything wrong. I'd much prefer he get a kick.
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Not sure how you came to the conclusion that I approved of the umpire abuse nor the inference that Daisy is not getting a kick or enough kicks....he has been one of our most consistent this year.
 
zepender said:
Speaking as someone who umpires games in the US (and yes we do have footy here)...it is difficult for us given that we typically have (at most) 2 field umpires. They typically tend to have lower fitness and are often older, retired players. Volunteer basis, no pay.

The real difference (that I wouldn't mind the AFL looking into) is the card system. Yellow card - 15 minutes off the field for that player, immediately replaceable. Red card - player sent off from the game, not replaceable for 15 minutes. I feel comfortable using the yellow card for any kind of umpire abuse, since it basically puts that player in a timeout. The amount of umpire abuse that players in the AFL get away with week in and week out not only cheapens the game, but it makes that somehow more permissible for other players.
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interesting - I recently flew interstate - we all fly now pretty much - I would love players who interact with umpires to feel exactly as I do when I am getting the once over from the security officials at check-in - any smart comments, any bomb jokes, any attempt at undermining their role, any signs of impatience or annoyance - you may not fly - and none of us want that - so it's yes sir, no mam - and we fly - and everyone is happy - give the umpires more authority
 

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Really hoping i would resist the urge to post in this thread. If umpires are to be full time, what is the afl waiting for? I wish to be able to scream rabidly that they've been given everything yet they're still a bit poohy.
 
why staying above this crap means we can all enjoy our footy more - every team that loses delivers rubbish like this and it's embarrassing - from the crows:

"notch that one up to the umpiring. Why cant they just let it run naturally, why do they have to get them back in the game? They can get themselves back in. Then when we needed the frees, deserved the frees, crickets chirping."
 

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this one should go into some sort of umpiring conspiracy hall of fame - poster has even managed to include us in the unhinged diatribe:

I watched a game last year I reckon it was, could've been the year before, Hawthorn vs Carlton. Hawks were absolutely flogging the piss poor carlton rabble, they might have been up 8 goals to 1 early in the second. Then I watched the umpires get carlton back in it. It only took a similar effort to what we had against us in the third quarter tonight and all of a sudden the carlton no hopers were super carlton and hawks players couldn't do a thing about it. Carlton getting goals at will and hawks mystified. Anyway, the umpiring went back to normal and hawthorn resumed the flogging. Ever since I saw what a difference a bit of blantant assistance can do in such an even comp I've kept that in mind. As much as we make fun of some of the bottom teams or even feel our team is way off the top, there's a bees proverbial between them all and small things can make big differences.
 
If every game was umpired exactly like finals and grand finals are umpired there wouldn’t be any issues ... but they ain’t ... so we do ...
 

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