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Sector 7G said:
Kemp got a lucky one and Weiters got away with a 50-50 a little bit before the dubious one.

West's was there.

English was a lucky one that he missed
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West fell backwards into Cowan who was then trying to stop his own falling and a flailing arm goes across the back of West's neck for an instance. Cowan was not tackling just falling.
 
Wouldn’t have mattered but it didn’t help that JSOS wasn’t given a free kick in the first quarter for nearly two identical incidents that he was penalised for when shepherding TDK’s long goal a few weeks ago 🙄
 
Last night's effort from these 4 needs to be highlighted. There were so many infringements not paid to us, yet similar being paid to Sydney. The non mark to Young compared to the mark to Heeney is a classic example of a footy incident. However, the biggest highlight was the ruck display. I think Pittonet received 1 free kick in a ruck contest all night - Grundy received about 5 or 6. I don't know how that is possible from all the pushing and shoving instigated mostly by Grundy. I just feel we were truly robbed by these flowers all night. Just biased umpiring to keep the Sydney market active this year.


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Aphrodite said:
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Absolutely terrible decision. As Whately said at the time.
"If they've got the technology to over rule or change the decision, before the kick is taken, they should use it"
I am certain I have seen umpires in the past use replay to check if the ball was out on the full or not. Not this time.
 
It was at that point that I knew we weren't going to be winning the game. There was a point later on in the game where they paid a mark to Heeney, or a free kick. The video shows quite clearly that he hadn't marked the ball and had lost control of it before Lij "interfered" with the mark. That one didn't cost us a goal. But the mark at the other end by Young that wasn't called a mark did cost us. Directly in front, both hands on the ball controlling it, then his right arm was chopped. No free or mark.

The AFL could give lessons to FIFA on corruption and malfeasance. They aren't in it to promote and grow the game, they're in it to make their phat bonus cheques come the end of the year.

Any sporting organisation that is on the up and up would have binned off Christian years ago because he's a ****ing joke. The fact that the AFL is partnered with gambling organisations just speaks to how corrupt they are.
 

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Dramoth said:
It was at that point that I knew we weren't going to be winning the game. There was a point later on in the game where they paid a mark to Heeney, or a free kick. The video shows quite clearly that he hadn't marked the ball and had lost control of it before Lij "interfered" with the mark. That one didn't cost us a goal. But the mark at the other end by Young that wasn't called a mark did cost us. Directly in front, both hands on the ball controlling it, then his right arm was chopped. No free or mark.

The AFL could give lessons to FIFA on corruption and malfeasance. They aren't in it to promote and grow the game, they're in it to make their phat bonus cheques come the end of the year.

Any sporting organisation that is on the up and up would have binned off Christian years ago because he's a ****ing joke. The fact that the AFL is partnered with gambling organisations just speaks to how corrupt they are.
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Tinfoil hat firmly on, but it really is reaching the point that I wouldn't be surprised if in 10-15 years someone wrote a memoir the AFL tried to ban but failed on public interest grounds about how the AFL had a deliberate internal policy of manipulating results using umpiring and media to cause controversy and promote the game.

The thing being, it's not really directed at Carlton so much as it's directed at us, the fans.
 
Dramoth said:
It was at that point that I knew we weren't going to be winning the game. There was a point later on in the game where they paid a mark to Heeney, or a free kick. The video shows quite clearly that he hadn't marked the ball and had lost control of it before Lij "interfered" with the mark. That one didn't cost us a goal. But the mark at the other end by Young that wasn't called a mark did cost us. Directly in front, both hands on the ball controlling it, then his right arm was chopped. No free or mark.

The AFL could give lessons to FIFA on corruption and malfeasance. They aren't in it to promote and grow the game, they're in it to make their phat bonus cheques come the end of the year.
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There is no way on earth that Michael Pell was the only corrupt umpire placing bets.
Dramoth said:
Any sporting organisation that is on the up and up would have binned off Christian years ago because he's a ****ing joke. The fact that the AFL is partnered with gambling organisations just speaks to how corrupt they are.
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Yep, the corrupt Collingwood person who Maynard should be thanking every day for his premiership medallion.
 
Bale Dup said:
Absolutely terrible decision. As Whately said at the time.
"If they've got the technology to over rule or change the decision, before the kick is taken, they should use it"
I am certain I have seen umpires in the past use replay to check if the ball was out on the full or not. Not this time.
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I thought if there was doubt it should be ruled a throw in - but hey if you can **** Carlton right up the **** hey why not. 🙄
 
It’s staggering that we have 4 field u pores, one goal umpire and 2 boundary umpires and not one of them saw the ball bounce before going over the line and not one of them saw a replay before Heaney took his kick to rectify the decision.

Decision paralysis is a real issue and needs addressing.

As a one eyed Blues fan I only notice the frees we miss and understand the other side will miss out just as much but so much of what I see I believe is deemed acceptable by the AFL, the amount of clear throwing I saw in our game was disgusting.
 
DangerousD said:
It’s staggering that we have 4 field u pores, one goal umpire and 2 boundary umpires and not one of them saw the ball bounce before going over the line and not one of them saw a replay before Heaney took his kick to rectify the decision.

Decision paralysis is a real issue and needs addressing.

As a one eyed Blues fan I only notice the frees we miss and understand the other side will miss out just as much but so much of what I see I believe is deemed acceptable by the AFL, the amount of clear throwing I saw in our game was disgusting.
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it was pretty funny. The field ump ran over and asked the boundary guy are you sure and he just doubled down with a big head nod.

This noise of affirmation stuff is real.

Carlton fans were silent all night. Guess there weren't many of us there and those that were weren't in the mood to make noise...
Swans fans are utterly useless and generally don't realise there's a football game going on at all. It's a corporate social event here...
But they do carry on when trying to get an umpiring decision.

Part of me thinks some of these umps literally award free kicks based off crowd noise.
 

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The boundary umpire was behind so could not possibly have seen it come off Govs boot, so guessed. The field umpire should have seen it clearly bounce but acted oblivious. Either way both were unsure and guessed incorrectly which gifted Heeney the goal, but more importantly swung the momentum of the game which up until that point we had full control.. and Heeney was having no impact on the game.
 
LFTWNG11 said:
Not one to complain too much because we are garbage of our own making but it wasn’t just the OOF call. Swans players were effectively allowed to bump the head - three times I can remember there was a bump to the head and play on was the call. Two of those might get a week…
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Yeah. Boyd was crunched in the head twice. The amartey one but before that a spoil missed everything except his head. Direct punch to the back/ side of the head. Crumpled him for a few moments there too.

It was a bad game but I do wonder if the swans figured we'd just crumple if they kept trying to hurt.... Dunno.
 
SkyhorseTamer said:
Yeah. Boyd was crunched in the head twice. The amartey one but before that a spoil missed everything except his head. Direct punch to the back/ side of the head. Crumpled him for a few moments there too.

It was a bad game but I do wonder if the swans figured we'd just crumple if they kept trying to hurt.... Dunno.
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Pretty obvious we crumble under pressure. Swans went with physical intimidation and realised they were getting away with it, so went harder.
 
LFTWNG11 said:
Not one to complain too much because we are garbage of our own making but it wasn’t just the OOF call. Swans players were effectively allowed to bump the head - three times I can remember there was a bump to the head and play on was the call. Two of those might get a week…
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High tackles, bumps and throws not penalised at all.
On top of the OOF goal, and the mark not paid to Young.
 

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