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Re: Umpires affecting the outcome of games.....

SirJimi05 said:
Tippett pushes the ball out in front, gets grabbed, slung and slammed into the ground, ball is nowhere to be seen.

Carlton take it down and kick the winning goal.
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Carlton are going to be getted smacked by free kicks in the back half in one game as they are really pushing the boundaries back there atm. We saw it last week and again tonight. They are undersized and doing everything possible to restrict the opposition and apart from Jamison, mostly doing it illegally.

There was a reason that Hurley and Ryder didn't get much of a jump at it last week..
 
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What about the non mark to the kid (not sure who is was) just on 50m. Umpire calls it touched in flight wtf??!!! :eek:

The guy that kicked it had noone within 10m of him and Murphy didn't touch it in the contest. Evem if he did get a finger to it, which he didn't, since when haven't those marks been paid?
 
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Did anyone else think Simpson threw it while on the ground in the last quarter when he passed it to Russell who kicked a goal?
 
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Clark G said:
Did anyone else think Simpson threw it while on the ground in the last quarter when he passed it to Russell who kicked a goal?
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Yeah i absolutley did, but the replay in slow motion made it justifiable. in regards to the OP momentum is such a big thing in todays game, one bullshit free kick that is or isnt paid can have damning effects on game. Its not the fact free kicks are or not paid its just consistency for the entirety of the match. Like last week in the first qtr when mcveigh and monfries inside the 50 werent paid in the back, and then carrazzo's was?? Or Carlton not disposing of the footy properly "play on" is called and 2 minutes later we get done for hold the footy??
 

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I think umpiring has become incredibly difficult due to the speed of the game, the number of players at most contests and the way the umpires are coached and told to interpret the rules of the game.

Unfortunately with so many close games this season, any mistake by umpires will be scrutinised and remembered because they can play a major part in the result.
 
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Knight Ryders said:
22-14 Carlton's way. I was ropeable for Adelaide tonight and let's be honest, the Suns got a very nice run with the umps in the last quarter as well.
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I'm glad you appreciated where these 'grey rules' are headed. No accountability (umps) = pull teams over the line. The newbie teams will always get a leg up coz the AFL want these teams to SUCCEED. Simple as that. :) Hope the Bombers show up on Monday. +28.5 start ;)
 
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My only conclusion to bad umpire decisions is that the shine off Jeff Gieschen's head must partially blind the umpires before they walk onto the ground.
 
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Carlton were robbed in the first half. Adelaide were royally shafted in the last.

I've been saying for years that AFL games are way too influenced by the umpires. Sometimes interpretations favour a team and you are basically playing a man or two down.

The umpiring circus rolls on.
 
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what a horrendous game, Adelaide are as bad as anyone right now. Yes, anyone.

Players down or not, we should be absolutely livid we could only draw with that mob. Ryder and Hurley, amongst others, owe us one. And quickly.

Very mediocre.
 
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Ryder yes, hurley no. Hurls was actually alright last week. Did some good work, just wasn't rewarded and copped a dose of mauling from the carlton backline, which didn't get paid his way.
 

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Complaining about umpires annoys the !#$% out of me.

There's way too many grey areas in rules these days, what's deemed as prior opportunity one match, is not the next. Players are running into tackles with their heads down, one match it's a negligent tackle, the next he ducked. I Wouldn't want to be an umpire in 2011.

Sure when a game is close towards the end and a dud decision or a few decisions go against your team, your ropeable, understandable. Like a couple of decisions at the end in our loss to Sydney. I was spewing, but in the whole context of the game, we were over 30 points up at one stage, we should have never been in the position to lose it in that way anyway. 1 or 2 decisions don't decide a match. Your team does.

Like Westhoff taking a shot after the siren yesterday. Did he lose the game for Port? No, a terrible Port side lost it as a team.

If your team is good enough to win on the day, they will win, bad umpiring or not. Don't think we're going to see Collingwood lose too many on the back of umpiring decisions this year.
 
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More umpire bashing :rolleyes:

Like i said in the last umpire thread until we get 21 or so professional umpires that can umpire all the games and be full time you have to accept the standard we have.
It is also up to the AFL to stop tinkering with interpretation of the rules which is the biggest problem we have. The umpires are asked to change their thinking on the rules and it leads to mistakes as it is similar to asking players to change game plans every 3 or 4 weeks.

We have the standard of umpiring we currently have because the umpire pathway has not kept up with the current game to start with and secondly because of the community view of umpires at all levels being poor and seeing them as easy targets which leads to more than half of the best young umpires giving it away as the abuse is too much.

One of the best young umpires i had seen at under 18 level was a girl a couple of years ago, she was consistent, calm and was not trying so hard that she was looking to pay free kicks rather than letting the game flow. She is not umpiring now and when i found out why i was not shocked, she simply had enough of being called a stupid cow every week and the personal abuse from sections of the crowd.
People need to pull their heads in ! no one goes through a week without making several mistakes so why are the umpires expected to be different. They can only work within the rules and guide lines they are given.

How about a thread about player actions costing sides games, they make just as many mistakes........shit most get paid more than umpires, have more time to work on their craft yet have more stuff ups.
 
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Add another to the list, "Martin in the back".

I'm not bashing umps here, just pointing out a decision in the crucial moments of the game that have heavily influenced the game.

I'm of the opinion that you lose games by kicking 14.19 (Kangaroos) most of the time, although sometimes umpiring can get out of hand (Sydney match).
 
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The top afl umpires earn 6 figures... I still think they should increase their wages by a lot though. And get them on the weights... Weedy little buggers need to command more respect. Try to get more ex players into it perhaps.
 

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The Adelaide game was disgraceful, I was furious watching it and I couldn't give a damn about either team! go figure! haha.
 
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We were robbed of two wins this season alone...you slowly get over it.

But some of the explanantion of Jeff Gieschen on the decisions that cost us the two games just making my blood boil...I can't seem to let this go.

It leads me to think that something is going on...conspiracy, and that he is a cheat and lier.

[He came out and said that Sydney guy who fell on Stanton's back fell on his legs and that on top of that Stanton dropped his knees delibrately.

Then he come out and says that Carazzo didn't have prior opportunity (bhahahahaha :eek:) and that tackle dislodged the ball. So it's not holding the ball. And top of that Stanton fell on his back...(which he didn't. It was to the side clearly)

Going back to Hardingham decision when he clearly handballed the ball, apparently he had prior opportunity and didn't dispose of the ball correctly. Because the tackle dislodged the ball and it 'bobbled' :eek:

He is a cheat. That's my conclusion. :)]
 
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Umpiring will never be perfect but when you're a good side winning, umpiring doesn't seem to play a part. did any Essendon supporter complain about umpiring in 2000?

just gotta cop it on the chin and get on with it. it all balances out in the end. (unless your names Nick Reiwoldt).
 
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Coldacre said:
Umpiring will never be perfect but when you're a good side winning, umpiring doesn't seem to play a part. did any Essendon supporter complain about umpiring in 2000?

just gotta cop it on the chin and get on with it. it all balances out in the end. (unless your names Nick Reiwoldt).
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Damn right i did
Essendon was one of hte most penalised sides in the competition in that year. THey tried to umpire other teams into the games. Much like this year with Carlton and Sydney
 

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