Roast Umpires

[longdaveyjetta]

What the **** were the 4 holding ball decisions that weren't called in the 2nd quarter? The 2nd Jetta tackle was especially ******ed as Mattner had 4 steps of prior! Are these umpires ******ed? Then in the 3rd an Essendon player gets pinged with no prior! And a Sydney player gets pinged without ever having possession of the ball! **** me sideways!!!

That's more like it no deltoids needed, the holding the ball rule has a special clause, except Essendon...I just want to see the rules they apply on Grand final day payed every week, good hard tough footy...

 

[Summer Nights]

You said Deltoids, wow so did he get both or just one, regardless, If I hear an umpire pay a free for above the Deltoids I will spew up a la Terry Wallace, why did you name yourself Mumbo Jumbo????

Sorry I don't understand the question?

 

[dave_27]

I blew my stack again, not of north melbourne game proportions but I still lost it again.

Im an angry person.

 

[Smyth94]

Ryder had about 2-3 marks that were punched after he took control of the ball that were not paid.

On top of the other numerous horrible decisions.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Again with the not penalising throwing of the ball. Both teams guilty of this.

 

[Goon_Squad]

Ryder had about 2-3 marks that were punched after he took control of the ball that were not paid.

On top of the other numerous horrible decisions.

This.

Was some rubbish umpiring there. The first quarter was atrocious, was a bit better for the rest of the game. The umpire at one stage was making hand gestures of someone attempting a handball, apparently that means that all you have to do is punch a fist repetitively at the ball to avoid a holding the ball decision?

 

[pepsi]

The umpiring was so bad in the first quarter that it riled the Essendon supporters so much that for the rest of the game we were absolutely feral about every close decision. I also think it brought more passion to the game and created a better atmosphere for us. So in a way the umpires helped us.

 

[Kong]

Not a bad point, actually.

 

[Eleven 38]

the delibrate out of bounds against the sydney player was terrible... is that the rule now?

 

[Kong]

I think they were trying to even out the ridiculous decision against Dyson where he was up against the boundary being pursued and kicked it about 30-40 down the boundary towards a player.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I officially have NFi about HTB. It's a joke, plain & simple. There's no method behind the madness. How you can have the ball for a microsecond, have it held to you and it's HTB; but other times a player can take half a dozen steps, get tackled, and it's ball up. Seriously, WTF?

And don't even get me started on dropping the ball Vs having it spill in the tackle.

Deliberate OOB is now the biggest blight on our game. Fair ****ing dinkum, imagine trying to describe the rules these days to an international visitor

 

[Slattery_20]

the delibrate out of bounds against the sydney player was terrible... is that the rule now?

Didn't you get Giesches 'Rule of the week' memo?

 

[Dave]

And don't even get me started on dropping the ball Vs having it spill in the tackle.

It's an out for when they stuff it up. I don't take any notice of umpiring, it's a lottery these days.

 

[Eleven 38]

Didn't you get Giesches 'Rule of the week' memo?

lol, thats another point, you know you have a problem with umpiring when you need someone to come out every week and explain decisions...

 

[mayhem20202]

Watched over the first quarter vs. Collingwood again, as it's been mentioned that we got the rub early. I've listed the errors both ways that I could pick out and it pretty much comes out even. Collingwood copped the blatant mistakes (which would give the perception that we got the rub), but we got a few more less obvious ones missed our way. Some of these I slowed down just to make sure I got it right.

This is just my opinion, and not saying I'm 100% but in my view it was fairly even in the first quarter.

Collngwood's way:
-Ben Johnson received an incorrect free kick from Colyer for a high tackle that was only one hand on his deltoids (upper arm), not on top of the shoulders or across the collarbone or neck. 1Q14:47
-Sidebottom hand in the back on Hardingham in goalsquare to edge him under the ball then kicks a goal. 1Q9:27
-Sidebottom deliberately shephards Hardingham out of a marking contest in goal square at 1Q2:07
-Jolly tacked by Hardingham near Essendon's goals. Drops ball, no free kick to Essendon but we luckily still get the goal 1Q1:07

Essendon's way:
-Cloke front on contact by Myers. Should've been a free kick to Pies.
-Davis pushed in the back by Crameri in Essendon forward 50. Should've been a free kick to Pies.
-Luke Ball pushed in the back by McVeigh but we get a free kick for holding the ball. 1Q1:43

Well written, and from my point of view, extremely accurate. Also, it is a pretty accurate indication for the whole year as well. Generally, the umpires make approx. 4 - 6 incorrect decisions per quarter. In most instances, it might be 3 all or 4-2, 3-2, or something along those lines. What I see happening is that you remember the bad ones that go against your side, and you forget the lucky ones, or can come up with an excuse for why they are acceptable. In reality, the umpires don't favour anyone, they are just generally unable to accurately officiate the game, which in part is due to players staging for free kicks and making the umpires job harder, and partly just because they don't seem to understand the spirit of the game.

 

[Del65166]

i saw the game too - thought you guys were screwed by the umps. good win

 

[beez]

I officially have NFi about HTB. It's a joke, plain & simple. There's no method behind the madness. How you can have the ball for a microsecond, have it held to you and it's HTB; but other times a player can take half a dozen steps, get tackled, and it's ball up. Seriously, WTF?

And don't even get me started on dropping the ball Vs having it spill in the tackle.

Deliberate OOB is now the biggest blight on our game. Fair ****ing dinkum, imagine trying to describe the rules these days to an international visitor

The rules are actually quite clear on HTB and are adjudicated pretty well imo (feel free to read the rules and you may have a better idea ). However, like most supporters we disagree with the interpretations, which creates the frustration.


The Rules Committee created the anomaly with correct disposal of the ball due to their stupid "attempt to dispose of the football" rule. Sack them all.

 

[yaco55]

Deliberate OOB rule.

Bruce McAvaney calling the Hawks/North game suggested that in the future OOB may be against the last player to touch the ball - or to that effect.

 

[kfc1]

They tried that in the NAB Cup and it was terrible. It's almost impossible to accurately adjudicate on an oval field - easy in soccer or rugby league when you have a linesman on a straight line.

 

[yaco55]

They tried that in the NAB Cup and it was terrible. It's almost impossible to accurately adjudicate on an oval field - easy in soccer or rugby league when you have a linesman on a straight line.[/QUOTE

I agree.

Think that Bruce raised a valid point.

 

[Goon_Squad]

Think that Bruce raised a valid point.

First time in history

 

[Beerfish]

The Stanton "holding the man" decision and subsequent 50m penalty against.

Welcome to Randomball.

 

[BrunoV]

We actually need to focus on the real issue...the rules.

Supporters need to put aside their differences and biases because commentators who watch basically every game (guys like Mark Fine and other commentators) and ex-umpires will tell you that umpires are being compromised by AFL directives and rule changes which make their lives much, much harder.

From everything I've seen there is nothing to suggest that they are off the mark.

I would seriously go as far as banning threads criticising umpires. General discussion is OK and there are no doubt some errors but the umpires are not the problem.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Hayden Kennedy retires ... About bloody time.

 

[kfc1]

We actually need to focus on the real issue...the rules.

Supporters need to put aside their differences and biases because commentators who watch basically every game (guys like Mark Fine and other commentators) and ex-umpires will tell you that umpires are being compromised by AFL directives and rule changes which make their lives much, much harder.

From everything I've seen there is nothing to suggest that they are off the mark.

That's fine if the decisions are consistent interpretations throughout the game.

Sure, we can accept that prior is no longer needed for a HTB decision but we can't accept when one player is pinged with no prior and one player is not pinged after having four steps of prior. That has nothing to do with directives, only umpire incompetence.

I would seriously go as far as banning threads criticising umpires. General discussion is OK and there are no doubt some errors but the umpires are not the problem.

Stupidest idea I've ever heard. Let's not talk about it so that it doesn't exist

If umpires make bad decisions then they deserve to be criticised.