You’ll never be able to win. May as well ignore it. The conversation started at we get too many free kicks, we duck and flop for free kicks.. then they found out we don’t actually lead the competition for frees for.. then it turns to degree of flopping then to 2016 flag being cheated. It’s boring and uneducated. I should have known better.
Umpiring Umpiring in the Bulldogs/Bombers Final 2021
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You’ll never be able to win. May as well ignore it. The conversation started at we get too many free kicks, we duck and flop for free kicks.. then they found out we don’t actually lead the competition for frees for.. then it turns to degree of flopping then to 2016 flag being cheated. It’s boring and uneducated. I should have known better.
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Speaking of flopping.Ryan Gardner fined for his block on Francis.
Ah your team has been on the bottom for years and yet still won 3 out of the last 4 flags. Umpiring doesn’t gift finals wins. You of all fans should know this by now.
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Most Bulldogs fans have agreed we are significantly less on frees against. What’s your point? Adelaide, Port and Brisbane all get given more and Geelong basically the same.
I’ll answer his next post for him to save him the trouble.. “ahhh yeah but you guys drop the ball and throw the ball more and ahhh it doesn’t get paid like it does for other clubs..”
not interested in your denial that you are the most looked after team in the comp, my post was just a shout out to the neutral fans that top 2 in frees for and for differentials got another big ride at the expense of port and dons.... other games barely a ripple of complaints.
Bored already
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Except he didnt have the ball. It didnt matter how high or how much ducking, he was tackled to the ground without the ball.
The other 3 were very soft but umpires pay them all the time.
There are a heap of players who drop the knee and raise the arm. The rules say its not a free but umpires dont seem to care and just pay them all.
An Essendon player was doing the same thing. Tackled around the waist but threw his head in to the tackler and got a free.
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Correct. As stated continuously we give less away. More disciplined. Its the most useless meaningless stat in footy. Richmond at the bottom because they deliberately give frees away to stop fast breaks? Lets them reset? Tactics.
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Has anybody else run the numbers? Excel is trying to tell me that there have been exactly the same number of frees for and against through the entire season if these raw numbers are correct. Thats statistically improbably (to say the least). I was looking to average out frees for and frees against and both came out at 427.83, then I added the totals and sure enough 7701 in each column
Surely not!
Whats the source for this table?
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Williamson the only umpire to make Week 2 Finals from this match.
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Meredith the only umpire in the Port v Geelong match to make week 2 from that match.
What's your point?
As someone who has followed both the VFL/AFL and the NFL for many decades, I am still amazed by the culture differences between American football fans and Aussie footy fans.
In the NFL, teams that give away the fewest penalties, and receive the most, are celebrated as well coached and well disciplined, playing the game in the right way. Teams like the Raiders who give away the most penalties are ridiculed for costing themselves wins all the time.
In the AFL, the team (Western Bulldogs) that is the most disciplined, giving away the least and receiving the most free kicks are seen as cheats who are unfairly favored by the umpires and the competition, and gifted wins and premierships.
All I know for sure is that having umpired a few junior footy games, Aussie rules is unbelievably difficult to umpire, and I have incredibly high appreciation and respect for the thankless job they do.
In the NFL, teams that give away the fewest penalties, and receive the most, are celebrated as well coached and well disciplined, playing the game in the right way. Teams like the Raiders who give away the most penalties are ridiculed for costing themselves wins all the time.
In the AFL, the team (Western Bulldogs) that is the most disciplined, giving away the least and receiving the most free kicks are seen as cheats who are unfairly favored by the umpires and the competition, and gifted wins and premierships.
All I know for sure is that having umpired a few junior footy games, Aussie rules is unbelievably difficult to umpire, and I have incredibly high appreciation and respect for the thankless job they do.
You've answered your own question.
NFL is very black and white. AFL isn't.
Almost every decision made in an AFL game could go one way or the other.
That's why the AFL can come out and say on the Monday that the umpires got everything correct. Regardless of the decision, they can make a case either way.
And that's one of the reasons why it's so curious that the Bulldogs have dominated the free kick differential for 6 years. How can you get the rub of the green for so long?
It's not just frees for or frees against either, but a blend of both over that time.
It's not discipline. That's nonsense and makes no sense. Umpires and the AFL cheating doesn't add up, and it's also not because they're a good team - as They've been ordinary and still dominated the count.
There's no Doubt they get plenty from staging and ducking, but most teams do this. Not as much as the Dogs, but it still doesn't completely explain the long term discrepancy.
One thing is for certain, it's a fact that can't be denied - they get an amazing run from the umpires.
The mystery re.ians though, as to why.
Ah yes, because catches and "football moves" have been so black and white in recent years. You must have also forgotten when the refs went on strike
The one that got me was the to Weightman from a bump by Merrett. Good hard footy and the umpire fell for it. Talk about taking a dive.
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Merrett and hard footy. Good one.
