Umpiring

[SunshineBoy]

After watching plenty of sports during the Olympics, I realise how very few other sports have rules as open to interpretation as AFL.

Soccer, hockey, rugby all have some offside rules, but simple enough.
Soccer also has the deciding whether player is taking a dive or its legit.
Personally I can never tell who is doing the charging in basketball but players rarely have issues with the call.

The interpretation of rules in AFL, which often favours one team is one of the things that makes the game hard to watch.

It allows match fixing without any investigation

 

[dusty1234!]

How was Jacks‘ goal disallowed?
And then the himmelburg goal **** me dead.

 

[fleabitten]

How was Jacks‘ goal disallowed?
And then the himmelburg goal fu** me dead.

Game starts with a goal after a push in the back, then those 2 incredible decisions. All the while, the AFL pumps the sound of fake crowds cheering into our "home" ground.

 

[Sir_Rancelot]

Jesus Christ these umpires are dunb****ing cheats

 

[PaulBulluss]

After watching plenty of sports during the Olympics, I realise how very few other sports have rules as open to interpretation as AFL.

Soccer, hockey, rugby all have some offside rules, but simple enough.
Soccer also has the deciding whether player is taking a dive or its legit.
Personally I can never tell who is doing the charging in basketball but players rarely have issues with the call.

The interpretation of rules in AFL, which often favours one team is one of the things that makes the game hard to watch.

To be fair, Olympic sports like handball and water polo have by far the worst umpiring/refereeing. It's not even close. Both have exclusions and most if not all big games are decided by umpiring interpretations. Handball even has a passive play rule where the umps decide if a team is showing genuine attacking intent lol.

 

[Lord of the Wings]

How was Jacks‘ goal disallowed?
And then the himmelburg goal fu** me dead.

Completely changed the tide of the game. Cheating halfwit campaigners

 

[Crumpet_avenger]

May of been soft decisions why do we do hits to the head or grab players when we have a goal sailing through?
The unps can't pay then if we don't do them

if I was Jack I'd be really pissed at lynch.
dumb footballer
Hardwick needs to stop this shitty illdisiplined behaviour

 

[biaseddustyfan]

How was Jacks‘ goal disallowed?
And then the himmelburg goal fu** me dead.

afl has reailsed how easily they can decide games with 20 mins of umpiring but they still get defended by all the sanctimonious angels out there so zero repercussions

easy shit when you're an amateur sport

 

[Neen]

The direction of the game was set in the first 15 minutes. Disallowed goal to Jack - even dumbfounded BT. Hogan push in the back = all good - but ignored all night to Lynch & Jack, and the "mystery" free to Himelberg. Laughable. No crowds to "remind" the umps there are 2 teams... They need a "special sound effect" just for the ironical cheers when we do receive the rare free kick in the FWD 50.

Nothing to do with missing midfield, injuries etc etc.. It is "the way we play the game"

 

[Do the Dew]

May of been soft decisions why do we do hits to the head or grab players when we have a goal sailing through?
The unps can't pay then if we don't do them

if I was Jack I'd be really pissed at lynch.
dumb footballer
Hardwick needs to stop this shitty illdisiplined behaviour

No. There was literally nothing wrong with what Lynch did. If the umpires were consistent about that, there would be free kicks every single contest. It was nothing but a horrendously campaignery freekick that should be called out by the club/media. It was so staggeringly shit that even BT wasn't happy, and that guy has the brain cells of a worm.

Followed 2 mins later by another incredibly soft free kick that gave them a goal. We are actually umpired to different rules than other teams.

 

[wegetpumped]

Game starts with a goal after a push in the back, then those 2 incredible decisions. All the while, the AFL pumps the sound of fake crowds cheering into our "home" ground.

I knew the game was gone as soon as that happened. But we still didn't help our cause. All the replacements who have been playing ok were crap last night eg Where was Parker? Only Dow can hold his head high.

 

[beema limapep]

it was disgusting.

 

[smasha]

A zephr of wind would do more damage than what Lynch did last night.

Horrid umpiring but us Tigers have been used to this for years now.

 

[tiger_tough]

There were at least 3 shocking centre bounces that werent recalled that went giants way and resulted directly in goals too.

 

[Livonski]

There were at least 3 shocking centre bounces that werent recalled that went giants way and resulted directly in goals too.

How was the one Mumford got a free hit at and punched it almost to the 50? Mind boggling.

 

[Grrr]

I just want to say what a great rule the standing the mark is. If it wasn't for that how would sides score goals so easy.

Grimes stands the mark waiting for the ump to blow play on, while his player runs past him by 10m before he gets rid of the ball. Grimes standing stationary looking at the ump with his hands still in the air...'is it play on then is it'? What a farce, said it from day one. I just hope the AFL Grand Final is decided by such a bit of play. Something for Hocking to hang his hat on.

And moving backwards 50m penalty only applies when the umps decides which team is moving backwards. Richmond, yes, GWS no.

 

[wegetpumped]

How can the woman umpire get the bounce spot on every time and the rest of the flogs cant? M<y fav bounce was the one it went Mumford's way and nearly reached the wing players called to play on.
I know we talk about umpires and what happens to our games but in the few games, I have seen with other clubs the same crap happens there also.

 

[Grrr]

How can the woman umpire get the bounce spot on every time and the rest of the flogs cant? M<y fav bounce was the one it went Mumford's way and nearly reached the wing players called to play on.
I know we talk about umpires and what happens to our games but in the few games, I have seen with other clubs the same crap happens there also.

Evidently there was no advantage, well not enough of an advantage. Another vs Richmond rule.

 

[wegetpumped]

I like the rule as it states umpire yells to not move from the mark. But the umpires take it upon them to yell stand but half the time they don't and still penalize them.

 

[wegetpumped]

Again I'm not bashing the umpires as the Afl changing rules left right and centre even confuses me. The only rule I have seen a change in my lifetime in soccer has been the Goalkeepers where they wasted time. Other's sports likewise I don't see rule changes. Why cant they leave the rules as they were before all this modernizing.
Richmond didn't change any rules for the success it was called pressure all over the ground I mean is that not allowed lol.

 

[Dunger]

I just want to say what a great rule the standing the mark is. If it wasn't for that how would side score goals so easy.

Grimes stands the mark waiting for the ump to blow play on, while his player runs past him by 10m before he gets rid of the ball. Grimes standing stationary looking at the ump with his hands still in the air...'is it play on then is it'? What a farce, said it from day one. I just hope the AFL Grand Final is decided by such a bit of play. Something for Hocking to hand his hat on.

And moving backwards 50m penalty only applies when the umps decides which team is moving backwards. Richmond, yes, GWS no.

Umpires should not decide when defending can or cannot begin.

Last nights umpiring is about as bad as I've seen it, we were terrible no doubt and didn't deserve to win but the umpiring was embarassing and this year it's killed any enjoyment of watching footy.

 

[Dunger]

Some of the not 15 and marks paid were ridiculous, gws kicked about 10 metres across our goals and it was paid a mark, while we kicked it a good 20 odd and it was not 15...

 

[Phar Ace]

I just want to say what a great rule the standing the mark is. If it wasn't for that how would side score goals so easy.

Grimes stands the mark waiting for the ump to blow play on, while his player runs past him by 10m before he gets rid of the ball. Grimes standing stationary looking at the ump with his hands still in the air...'is it play on then is it'? What a farce, said it from day one. I just hope the AFL Grand Final is decided by such a bit of play. Something for Hocking to hand his hat on.

And moving backwards 50m penalty only applies when the umps decides which team is moving backwards. Richmond, yes, GWS no.

I have repeatedly said the Stand Rule is the single most damaging rule to the game - I understand it's so called logic, however too much is expected of part-time umpires, especially those who have little high level experience playing the game, to properly understand and read the nuances. It has become so critical to the game that it requires it's own umpire. That umpires are still struggling so much with consistent assessments of the 15 metre distance of a kick - really what hope do we have that they can adjudicate the Stand Rule fairly for both teams.

As an aside, if the Stand Rule is so important to the game, that remaining pinned to the ground (manning the mark) is its cornerstone, then why not do so for the kick - it too should need to be measured as reaching 15 metres from the mark unless the umpire has called play-on. So many times in a game, especially a Bulldogs game, the game has barely moved 5 metres when some kicks are assessed - and still they get the benefit of a mark and another chance to exploit the Stand Rule

 

[Grrr]

I have repeatedly said the Stand Rule is the single most damaging rule to the game - I understand it's so called logic, however too much is expected of part-time umpires, especially those who have little high level experience playing the game, to properly understand and read the nuances. It has become so critical to the game that it requires it's own umpire. That umpires are still struggling so much with consistent assessments of the 15 metre distance of a kick - really what hope do we have that they can adjudicate the Stand Rule fairly for both teams.

As an aside, if the Stand Rule is so important to the game, that remaining pinned to the ground (manning the mark) is its cornerstone, then why not do so for the kick - it too should need to be measured as reaching 15 metres from the mark unless the umpire has called play-on. So many times in a game, especially a Bulldogs game, the game has barely moved 5 metres when some kicks are assessed - and still they get the benefit of a mark and another chance to exploit the Stand Rule

Agree, hate the rule. One (maybe more) simple adjustment. The man on the mark should be allowed to stand in a line between the goal and the kicker. That way if the kicker moves wide, then the man on the mark is also allowed to move wide. At the moment waiting for the umpire is just comical if it wasn't so stupid.

 

[wegetpumped]

The rule is a farce. The defender is supposed to stay still the attacker takes off then the umpire has to say play on I mean WTF.
They totally destroyed us in the first quarter handed them 4 goals which we could not recover. Take Jack's disallowed goal and there is nothing in the game we held our own for 3 quarters no matter how badly we played.