Umpiring

[Lord of the Wings]

I'm sick of the pathetic officiating. When the f is Shocking going to be held accountable for us getting butt ****ed every week!

 

[eays]

Our interstate games vs bris, port and wce the free count is a whopping 75-43 ... wtf is that? That's actually crazy and I'd love to know the last q free count from the port and wce games. We lost to port by 2pt and wce by 4pts. Cant say that doesnt affect our season massively. 9-4 sure looks a lot better than 7-6.

 

[McTiger]

Same. Its ruining it for me. Very unfair. At this point I'd like the club to just make a big thing of it and cop the financial penalty. Tonight the 4 points was stolen from us.

Totally agree.

 

[fleabitten]

How about when tigers were about to surge forward from half back and the whistle blows. High contact on Bolton. There's a moment of confusion as the play stops and Bolton doesn't know its for him. He starts making his way back to take his kick and the umpire suddenly calls play on and he has to just throw it on the boot hurriedly. Turnover.

 

[Sir_Rancelot]

The free against Grimes for a throw was a guess by the umpire.
It was bad the standard but unfortunately we can expect that over there.

****medead Selwood and the entire throw dogs team get away with it weekly but Grimes gets pinged FFS what a joke.
It's like the umpires are micro managing everything we do and letting other teams off the hook.

 

[Sir_Rancelot]

How about when tigers were about to surge forward from half back and the whistle blows. High contact on Bolton. There's a moment of confusion as the play stops and Bolton doesn't know its for him. He starts making his way back to take his kick and the umpire suddenly calls play on and he has to just throw it on the boot hurriedly. Turnover.

That moment was the game turner.
I remember it vividly because to me it was the moment we could have penetrated the 50 but Bolton got rushed into the kick and turned it over.

 

[Bird Man]

The only time the media takes notice is when we get the run of the green.

Kane Cornes did his job of telling the umps to pump us last week

 

[Tiges1229]

fu**medead Selwood and the entire throw dogs team get away with it weekly but Grimes gets pinged FFS what a joke.
It's like the umpires are micro managing everything we do and letting other teams off the hook.

there’s no use even mentioning umpiring anymore , it’s just amateur nothing will change , club won’t say anything agein , the league is a farce .

 

[Coach_Required]

I'm sick of the pathetic officiating. When the f is Shocking going to be held accountable for us getting butt f’ed every week!

We break even in the free kicks and the narrative is we get looked after, we lose the free kick count and the narrative is oh thats because of how we play.

**** right off, its tall poppy sydrome that's all it is why it hurts tonight is because we lost and we had a couple go against us that hurt on the scoreboard.

Had a chuckle last night though when we kicked the ball up the line and the ball almost went out and the crowd was carrying on for deliberate only for the ball to stay in until there was a contest that saw the ball go out .... most West Coast fans must only watch their own games because it never is deliberate if the ball stays in.

 

[Waca Jr]

Fact of the matter is it is an incredibly hard game to umpire.

 

[beema limapep]

Frees in interstate games vs West coast

2021:- WC 25 RICH 15
2020:- WC 22 RICH 14
2018:- WC 21 RICH 10
Total WC 68 RICH 39

 

[PuntRd_Seal]

Fact of the matter is it is an incredibly hard game to umpire.

This is spot on. It's compounded by the fact the competition changes 'interpretations' weekly, and adds or removes rules yearly. After over 100 years active, and the growth of the game in the past 30 years, it's still baffling how our umpires aren't full-time professionals.

As much as whinging about umpiring can be a cop out, tonight is a perfect example of how a game can be directly influenced by poor umpiring/mistakes. It's not good enough anymore for our competition to just 'accept' mediocrity in its officiating department.

 

[Grrr]

For that one in particular I certainly don't agree it was a dangerous tackle but I've seen them commonly been given for in the back.
Especially when a tall is bending down to pick up the ball you almost have to wait until they stand up straight otherwise they hit the deck with minimal contact and even thought it's not in the back and a solid tackle it's something that's fairly regularly called in the back.

I agree, not dangerous, but has always been in the back unless you turn them. There needs to be more protection for the bloke with his head over the ball, happens every game.

 

[kranky al]

This is spot on. It's compounded by the fact the competition changes 'interpretations' weekly, and adds or removes rules yearly. After over 100 years active, and the growth of the game in the past 30 years, it's still baffling how our umpires aren't full-time professionals.

As much as whinging about umpiring can be a cop out, tonight is a perfect example of how a game can be directly influenced by poor umpiring/mistakes. It's not good enough anymore for our competition to just 'accept' mediocrity in its officiating department.

The afl keep introducing more and more subjective rules too.

 

[Livonski]

I agree, not dangerous, but has always been in the back unless you turn them. There needs to be more protection for the bloke with his head over the ball, happens every game.

He did turn him. Landed on his left shoulder. Perfect tackle.

 

[Livonski]

P

The club needs to call a meeting with the umpiring department to ask for a better understanding to why we are constantly losing the umpiring line by 10+ frees. If we are doing something wrong, we need to at least look like we are trying to rectify it. I dont think we are tbh, but its the way to get a better rub of the green to take the right path to getting a better understanding of it.

the 10m pass & the dangerous tackle call were just outrageous tbh.

You’re assuming that hasn’t happened.
What if they had, with video evidence and statistical analysis as well?

 

[HTT]

I agree, not dangerous, but has always been in the back unless you turn them. There needs to be more protection for the bloke with his head over the ball, happens every game.

He turned him side on, it was an absolutely textbook tackle in one of the most difficult situations to tackle someone.
It was a situation where a push in the back happens all the time so I reckon the umpire pre-empted it and once he blew the whistle he had to pay something.

 

[rfctigerarmy]

Umpiring has been proven this year to be match fixing in a sense. You can tell whether it be the Brisbane v Geelong game, the one Geelol got 'robbed' for the 15m kick (ironic last night), the one Essendon got robbed with, etc.

Those are bad – they're the wrong call at the time.

But you can also tell when theres a massive margin between teams of 10-15 frees the difference. It's rare that a team is that undeciplined that that should generally be the case consistently.

 

[RJK Tiger]

watched a few replays of the last 2 minutes - that pass was so clearly not 15. he kicks it from 45, maybe even slightly less and the mark is definitely not taken 30 meters out. The worst part of re-wartching it 5 times is the commentary - Brayshaw " Did it carry the distance?? Doesn't matter!"

FFs, mate, yes it does matter.There are 2 sides of supporters watching this match. If the ball didn't go far enough quite clearly - then yeah, that does matter a fair bit

 

[Grrr]

He turned him side on, it was an absolutely textbook tackle in one of the most difficult situations to tackle someone.
It was a situation where a push in the back happens all the time so I reckon the umpire pre-empted it and once he blew the whistle he had to pay something.

Yes it happens all the time, that is the problem. It wasn't textbook and neither was that one against Duncan by that Swans bloke. Both tried to turn but both ended up face-planting their opponent. It seems to be fashionable that as long as you try to turn them, the end result doesn't matter. It happens so many times in a game that it seems legit but for 100 years that bloke that gets ridden into the ground gets a free. It was a difficult tackle, but the bloke with his head over the ball should and always has been given the benefit, now it seems we want the other way round. That Swans player launched himself at Duncan at full speed from behind with absolutely no duty of care to the ball carrier. And everyone said it was a perfect tackle. No it was reckless and knocked him unconscious. Is that what we want. Last nights one wasn't so reckless, but it was there.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Clear cheating again

 

[beema limapep]

 

[Bojangles17]

HTF did CCJ not be paid a mark in opening minutes directly in front , that was a mark every day of the week

 

[Dont_Argue]

My favourite one is “dangerous tackle” on pickett for a run of the mill tackle that happens 100,000 times a week. **** right off you umpire campaigners - the games not about you

 

[fleabitten]

for 100 years that bloke that gets ridden into the ground gets a free

Not true. Push in the back has been a rule for 100 years but that wasn't a push in the back. They've been fiddling with "dangerous tackle" rules for the last few years. It's not an old rule and that tackle has been fine for most of the sport's history.