Umpiring

[Boston tiger]

I was watching the Blues vs Port game and noticed that when Port came back at the Blues in the third and fourth quarters, the umpires interpretation of the holding the ball rule seemed to change.

As soon as a Port player grabbed a Blues player it was holding the ball in milliseconds. While earlier they were let go, the difference was obvious.

The umpires are a bunch of show ponies and want to get in on the act for some reason.

We have created a monster with the stand rule. Umpires are controlling every aspect.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

posted this in the oppo thread but relevant here for people that wanna have a melt

 

[DickieKnee]

When betting sites are the major sponsor and AFL CEOs leave to get a job in gambling. Then is it any wonder umpiring cannot be criticised. Don't fool yourself, when easy money is there to be made corruption will run rife.

 

[Groupie_]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-2022-all-the-latest-from-the-mro-as-trent-cotchin-fined-for-kicking-taylor-walker/news-story/e3006ef112e78176ea906e3f84d76602

This is why supporters have the shits with the umpiring. The AFL refuses to answer any questions regarding umpiring. Educate the population and they won't have a lot of the issues that the AFL has created themselves.

Kudos to the journalist who wrote this story. I assume it is the same guy who Hardwick told to go ask the questions himself.

afl house right now "shit we've been found out , make sure richmond wins the free kick count against the dees"

 

[Bojangles17]

Porkins blatant staging like he was thrown down the stairs of a niteclub after meek side contact shows up the incompetence of the umpiring standard ,,,,,again

 

[Wooden Robot]

I wonder what ex-umpires like Peter Cameron, Glenn James and Peter Carey, who loved a bit of banter with players, think of the current rules and regime?
Not favourably I'd say.

 

[Bojangles17]

I wonder what ex-umpires like Peter Cameron, Glenn James and Peter Carey, who loved a bit of banter with players, think of the current rules and regime?
Not favourably I'd say.

The rule should be there for blatant disrespect , eg calling the umpire a campaigner , hands out , cmon you can’t be serious , where’s brad Scott inventing his rules from, Simon says

 

[beema limapep]

 

[RJK Tiger]

The reality is we are either being reamed by the umpiring - or the coaching is shithouse. Any team that constantly gives away 30-80% more free's than their opponent must be ill coached.

If i were the coach of a team that i believed was playing the game poorly when considering the rules, I would be going off my nuts at 1qr time etc at the players. There is no worse way to lose a game of sport than by ignoring the rules of the game. I would be calling out the playing group after the game saying things like "..... it wont matter how much work all us coaches put in during the week to come up with game plans to stop Tex or figure out a way to nullify a player like Pettracca - if we just keep going out there and giving away 25-35 free kicks a game and playing clumsy ill disciplined footy, its always going to be futile. Our team need to be better than this, no one wants to come watch their team give the opponent cheap possession and meterage based on free kicks and 50's".

Has Dimma ever really done that? Giving away a lot of free kicks is generally something you expect from young inexperienced teams - yet, we are just about the oldest. Can you remember a time when the most experiened team in the league forgot the rules of the game like we apparently have?

If not, why? Is Dimma just that shit of coach? Or does he just accept the players can't do much against a deliberate attempt to sabotage our system?

We are 5 games in and we have had 1 game of 33-13 free's and another where we gave up 8x50's - those 2 games in isolation are perhaps the worst stats i have seen in both those columns in the history of watching the sport. we would have to be the worst discipline team in the history of the AFL at this point.

The odd question is, if so - then why is it such a non story across the board? its just....accepted

 

[This Is Anfield]

Now we have AFL 360 arguing about how far arms can be out
Robbo making sense… shows how bad things are.

 

[SumTingWong]

afl house right now "shit we've been found out , make sure richmond wins the free kick count against the dees"

Paywall

 

[RJK Tiger]

When you sit there say to yourself " The AFL would not cheat a team of fairplay just to instil their will on the game".. remember this game. RIP Fitzroy.

The hold on Roo's before that last mystery free kick is disgraceful



This shit happened to the Lions constantly in their final 5 years. Even found a thread of ol Lions supporters discussing it.

Video Request: The day Fitzroy were robbed.

...:eek: :( I love the commentary because I agree with it, "Murder"

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Livonski]

RJK Tiger The reality is we are either being reamed by the umpiring - or the coaching is shithouse. Any team that constantly gives away 30-80% more free's than their opponent must be ill coached.

Stuck record. Another I’ll informed ridiculous post.

33-13 free kick count is not about the 33.
The problem is the 13 we get. Nothing to do with us.
Think about the issue and lob your “Hardwick is a shit coach” when you actually understand what genuine footy people are talking about.

 

[Mr Unbelievable]

Now we have AFL 360 arguing about how far arms can be out
Robbo making sense… shows how bad things are.

 

[Ctl]

ahah Gerard doing the AFL bidding and is doing everything to deflect from Robbo

 

[Nobby]

 

[biaseddustyfan]

crazy that in the last 6 years the dogs have never lost a free count by 10 or more and it happened to us 22 times

maybe we should ask bevo for tips

 

[biaseddustyfan]

anyone know if there is anywhere you can get 50 metre penalty data?

 

[spackler]

RJK Tiger The reality is we are either being reamed by the umpiring - or the coaching is shithouse. Any team that constantly gives away 30-80% more free's than their opponent must be ill coached.

Stuck record. Another I’ll informed ridiculous post.

33-13 free kick count is not about the 33.
The problem is the 13 we get. Nothing to do with us.
Think about the issue and lob your “Hardwick is a shit coach” when you actually understand what genuine footy people are talking about.

“Ill-informed and ridiculous” is harsh. There’s a fair point to be made about why we give up so many free kicks regardless of the differential. It worked for us in the past as the game plan and rules worked in our favour- perceived/real pressure and momentum killing the oppo. Free kicks were collateral damage.
Many of our frees against now are pretty dumb and undisciplined and they hurt more- I think dimma had said this himself. Reduce the frees against and the differential is bound to look healthier.
Coaching arguably has more control over frees against than frees for? So seems like a valid point to raise.

 

[tugga]

“Ill-informed and ridiculous” is harsh. There’s a fair point to be made about why we give up so many free kicks regardless of the differential. It worked for us in the past as the game plan and rules worked in our favour- perceived/real pressure and momentum killing the oppo. Free kicks were collateral damage.
Many of our frees against now are pretty dumb and undisciplined and they hurt more- I think dimma had said this himself. Reduce the frees against and the differential is bound to look healthier.
Coaching arguably has more control over frees against than frees for? So seems like a valid point to raise.

Good points.
however, all the crows frees were probably there.
it’s the ones that don’t get paid the other way that leads to frustration.

 

[spackler]

Good points.
however, all the crows frees were probably there.
it’s the ones that don’t get paid the other way that leads to frustration.

No doubt. Does my head in also, believe me.
But this is outta our control isn’t it?

 

[Livonski]

“Ill-informed and ridiculous” is harsh. There’s a fair point to be made about why we give up so many free kicks regardless of the differential. It worked for us in the past as the game plan and rules worked in our favour- perceived/real pressure and momentum killing the oppo. Free kicks were collateral damage.
Many of our frees against now are pretty dumb and undisciplined and they hurt more- I think dimma had said this himself. Reduce the frees against and the differential is bound to look healthier.
Coaching arguably has more control over frees against than frees for? So seems like a valid point to raise.

No it’s not a valid point.
The number of frees against is not ridiculous. We/Dimma acknowledge this as undisciplined on our behalf and in our control.
It’s frees FOR that is the problem. We got 13!!! Is every other team super disciplined when they play us? Ridiculous.

 

[spackler]

No it’s not a valid point.
The number of frees against is not ridiculous. We/Dimma acknowledge this as undisciplined on our behalf and in our control.
It’s frees FOR that is the problem. We got 13!!! Is every other team super disciplined when they play us? Ridiculous.

Sure. Both things can be true. One you can do something about and the other is a circle jerk in an Internet forum.

 

[caddyshack]

50m PENALTIES CONCEDED AFTER ROUND 5

17​	Tigers
8​	Cats, Hawks, Power, Saints
7​	Crows, Magpies, Demons, Roos, Eagles
6​	Lions, Dockers, Bulldogs
5​	Swans
4​	Blues, Bombers, Giants
3​	Suns

 

[biaseddustyfan]

50m PENALTIES CONCEDED AFTER ROUND 5

Tigers	17​
Cats, Hawks, Power, Saints	8​
Crows, Magpies, Demons, Roos, Eagles	7​
Lions, Dockers, Bulldogs	6​
Swans	5​
Blues, Bombers, Giants	4​
Suns	3​

where they get the stats from