Unique Crows Record

[Sekaj]

What you should do, drcollossimo, is post a picture of the scoreboard following Port Adelaide's 2003 semi-final win against Essendon, and then proclaim how badly Essendon are our finals bitch. That should see your credibility sky-rocket.

But you see, Essendon supporters aren't the ones claiming superiority over the Power in finals. Power supporters, being the complete morons they are, think they are better in finals and yet the one opportunity they had to PROVE this, they completely humiliated themselves and made themselves the laughing stock of the universe when the lost their 'dream final'.

But then again, I don't expect a stupid Power supporter like you to understand this.

 

[drcollossimo]

Yeah, the Crows humiliated the Power in their 'dream final' despite the fact that the Power and their supporters are constantly talking about how they 'exist to win premierships'.



WTF? Aren't we talking about finals here? Are you trying to say the Power are better at winning finals just because they have a slight advantage in the regular season win-loss count despite humiliating themselves in the 'dream final'?

It's no wonder Power supporters are considered the stupidest, least intelligent and most moronic supporters in the league when you have dimwit posters like these who actually believe their team 'exist to win premierships' when they humiliate themselves in 'dream finals'.

ROFL its really really easy go to wikipedia and look up what happened in the 2005 1st qualifying final, then come back post it and remember Sekaj SHARE THE PRIDE! WHY I CAN FEEL MYSELF SHARING IT RIGHT NOW....

 

[drcollossimo]

Ok i can see your unable to do it so simply take the thing in your right hand ( i am hoping its a computer mouse) and take the little thing on the screen and point it on this link that should help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_AFL_finals_series#First_Qualifying_Final_.281_vs_4.29

Oh and i think the point Malph was making was that one win is not evidence of finals dominance, it is simply that, one win... LOL it that were the case what are the Eagles to you guys then?

 

[Sekaj]

ROFL its really really easy go to wikipedia and look up what happened in the 2005 1st qualifying final, then come back post it and remember Sekaj SHARE THE PRIDE! WHY I CAN FEEL MYSELF SHARING IT RIGHT NOW....

Please explain how the Power having a better head-to-head record than the Crows prove they are better in finals than the Crows despite losing their 'dream final'. Can you do that?

 

[Sekaj]

Ok i can see your unable to do it so simply take the thing in your right hand ( i am hoping its a computer mouse) and take the little thing on the screen and point it on this link that should help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_AFL_finals_series#First_Qualifying_Final_.281_vs_4.29

Oh and i think the point Malph was making was that one win is not evidence of finals dominance, it is simply that, one win... LOL it that were the case what are the Eagles to you guys then?

I'm not trying to argue 'finals dominance' you moron. I know you, being a Power supporter, are by nature very stupid but at least please try to keep up.

You, meaning Power supporters, are trying to argue, due to your boundless stupidity, that the Power are superior to the Crows in finals and yet when you had that one opportunity to PROVE this (i.e. in your 'dream final'), you failed.

The Power are very good at failing despite 'existing to win premierships'.

 

[portfan36]

I'm not trying to argue 'finals dominance' you moron. I know you, being a Power supporter, are by nature very stupid but at least please try to keep up.

You, meaning Power supporters, are trying to argue, due to your boundless stupidity, that the Power are superior to the Crows in finals and yet when you had that one opportunity to PROVE this (i.e. in your 'dream final'), you failed.

The Power are very good at failing despite 'existing to win premierships'.

Sekaj, you are a very bitter person who just cant accept the Crows mediocre record. You keep talking about moronic Port supporters and Im sure you have brought up 119 in many a posts but heres a stat you cant argue about:

122

this is the number of months since the Crows were last in a Grand Final. Some would say that is mediocre whilst most would say thats absolutely pathetic.

But Im sure you will somehow have justification for this as you are a flog. Im guessing you will bring up how the Crows beat Port in the "dream final" but guess what Sekaj, you lost the very next week and came home with no silverware. If you are proud of this then your clubs motto should be "We exist to try and beat Port Adelaide"

 

[Niximus]

But Im sure you will somehow have justification for this as you are a flog. Im guessing you will bring up how the Crows beat Port in the "dream final" but guess what Sekaj, you lost the very next week and came home with no silverware. If you are proud of this then your clubs motto should be "We exist to try and beat Port Adelaide"

You're right, silverware is what counts.

2>1
9 year average for flag beats 12 year average for flag

 

[portfan36]

You're right, silverware is what counts.

2>1
9 year average for flag beats 12 year average for flag

Would you like some tarnish remover for your silverware Nick?

 

[Niximus]

Would you like some tarnish remover for your silverware Nick?

That's the best you've got?

We win more flags more often - Fact. Everything else is irrelevant.

 

[malph]

But you see, Essendon supporters aren't the ones claiming superiority over the Power in finals. Power supporters, being the complete morons they are, think they are better in finals and yet the one opportunity they had to PROVE this, they completely humiliated themselves and made themselves the laughing stock of the universe when the lost their 'dream final'.

But then again, I don't expect a stupid Power supporter like you to understand this.

The Crows had the double chance, and as minor premiers, were guaranteed two home finals. Yet, in the annus mirabilis for the Crows that was 2005, they won no more finals than Port Adelaide. You should really gloat some more about that effort.

Now, what are we talking about: "superior in finals," or "superior in finals against the minor premier after finishing 8th"?

Who needs the full context, hey? The Crows have been dropping home finals like it's going out of fashion, so yeah, let's talk about the "dream final" that only occurred because the Crows choked against St. Kilda.

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[Sekaj]

All these Power failures bringing up the Crows finals against other teams. I mean, seriously. Who gives a fig? This is between the Crows and the Power.

Like I said before, since this is just between the Crows and the Power, if you want to talk finals then look no further than the 'dream final' where the Power PROVED beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are inferior when it comes to finals.

As a side note, doesn't it even bother Power supporters in the slightest that despite claiming to 'exist to win premierships', they still have LESS premierships than the Crows. Seriously. It doesn't bother you Power supporters at all? Really? You still think you're better at winning premierships just because you claim to 'exist' to do it despite being worse at it?

 

[PowerForGood]

All these Power failures bringing up the Crows finals against other teams. I mean, seriously. Who gives a fig? This is between the Crows and the Power.

Like I said before, since this is just between the Crows and the Power, if you want to talk finals then look no further than the 'dream final' where the Power PROVED beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are inferior when it comes to finals.

As a side note, doesn't it even bother Power supporters in the slightest that despite claiming to 'exist to win premierships', they still have LESS premierships than the Crows. Seriously. It doesn't bother you Power supporters at all? Really? You still think you're better at winning premierships just because you claim to 'exist' to do it despite being worse at it?

I reckon that we'd have won another premiership 2001-2004 if we had the same rules that you had to win your first premiership. How did you get that home final against 2nd placed Geelong in week 2?

Or how about that second premiership? Finish 5th, get spanked in your first final, and then get another go?? WTF???

Arguing either of your "13-9" premierships are as worthy as our "17-5" 2004 premiership is ludicrous. They count the same in te end, that is for sure, but you should admit that it was easier to win one with those two "anomalies".

 

[portfan36]

All these Power failures bringing up the Crows finals against other teams. I mean, seriously. Who gives a fig? This is between the Crows and the Power.

Like I said before, since this is just between the Crows and the Power, if you want to talk finals then look no further than the 'dream final' where the Power PROVED beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are inferior when it comes to finals.

As a side note, doesn't it even bother Power supporters in the slightest that despite claiming to 'exist to win premierships', they still have LESS premierships than the Crows. Seriously. It doesn't bother you Power supporters at all? Really? You still think you're better at winning premierships just because you claim to 'exist' to do it despite being worse at it?

Wrong again you are. This is not about the Crows versus the Power. Its about the abysmal finals record of the Crows over the last 10 years. If you want to discuss the Crows versus Power records then start a blog flog.

 

[Niximus]

Or how about that second premiership? Finish 5th, get spanked in your first final, and then get another go?? WTF???

The top 4 teams have a second chance now all it was in the past was that 2 more teams potentially had it.

Adelaide were the best team at the right time, that is what it takes to win premierships.

If they remove the double chance alltogether in a few years, would it make WCE's 2006 flag worth less?

 

[Niximus]

Wrong again you are. This is not about the Crows versus the Power. Its about the abysmal finals record of the Crows over the last 10 years. If you want to discuss the Crows versus Power records then start a blog flog.

And yet despite that being over half of our existance, we still have more flags than Port!

 

[Sekaj]

Wrong again you are. This is not about the Crows versus the Power. Its about the abysmal finals record of the Crows over the last 10 years. If you want to discuss the Crows versus Power records then start a blog flog.

Oh, but of course. The Crows are so 'abysmal' in finals and yet they demolished the Power who are so damn great in finals in the Power's very own 'dream final'. How is that possible? Please explain.

By the way, you 'exist to win premierships' but still have less premierships than the Crows. How is that possible? Please explain.

 

[Sekaj]

I reckon that we'd have won another premiership 2001-2004 if we had the same rules that you had to win your first premiership. How did you get that home final against 2nd placed Geelong in week 2?

Or how about that second premiership? Finish 5th, get spanked in your first final, and then get another go?? WTF???

Arguing either of your "13-9" premierships are as worthy as our "17-5" 2004 premiership is ludicrous. They count the same in te end, that is for sure, but you should admit that it was easier to win one with those two "anomalies".

I don't agree. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. The only way to settle this is to consider both clubs' head-to-head finals record. And the Crows lead in this category after humiliating the Power in their 'dream final'.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Why would you think that the only way to settle the argument is by using one match between the two clubs where the winning club was easily the favourite?

If you guys want to deflect and talk about our finals record, go right ahead. I know if we'd been as terrible in finals in the last 10 years as you had, i'd be trying to deflect as well.

 

[icrow32]

I reckon that we'd have won another premiership 2001-2004 if we had the same rules that you had to win your first premiership. How did you get that home final against 2nd placed Geelong in week 2?

Or how about that second premiership? Finish 5th, get spanked in your first final, and then get another go?? WTF???

Arguing either of your "13-9" premierships are as worthy as our "17-5" 2004 premiership is ludicrous. They count the same in te end, that is for sure, but you should admit that it was easier to win one with those two "anomalies".

So who should have exited the finals in that week then, all bottom 4 of the final 8, it would have been a very short finals series if that was the case.

If the 98 finals was played with todays system then the Crows would have a home final against the 8th placed team, a game the team of 98 would have won (unlike the current team we have).

Just like if the 2004 finals were played with todays system Brisbane would have had a home prelim final rather than travelling to Melb to play, if this was the case Port may never have won the flag.

The fact is the Crows have 2 flags and Port have 1, no one can understand how this makes the Crows failures and Port Power a success. No matter how you cut it, the Crows beat the power in anything associated with successful finals football and for a club that "exists to win premierships" it must really cut deep, its ok though, you still have a certain GF record to hang on to.

I hope I have typed slowly enough for you and malph to understand.

 

[Sekaj]

Why would you think that the only way to settle the argument is by using one match between the two clubs where the winning club was easily the favourite?

If you guys want to deflect and talk about our finals record, go right ahead. I know if we'd been as terrible in finals in the last 10 years as you had, i'd be trying to deflect as well.

WTF? How exactly is talking about finals (i.e. the 'dream final') deflecting from talking about finals?

The only people trying to 'deflect' are Power supporters who are trying to 'deflect' from the fact that the 'dream final' proves they are inferior to the Crows when it comes to finals.

Note again that I am talking about finals (which includes the 'dream final') and am therefore not trying to 'deflect' from talking about finals.

Edit: Are you sure the Crows were the favourites? Because I can distinctly remember 99.99% of Power supporters celebrating the 'dream final' BEFORE the match like a bunch of idiots as if they had already won it.

 

[drcollossimo]

Oh, but of course. The Crows are so 'abysmal' in finals and yet they demolished the Power who are so damn great in finals in the Power's very own 'dream final'. How is that possible? Please explain.

By the way, you 'exist to win premierships' but still have less premierships than the Crows. How is that possible? Please explain.

Ok Sekaj when you finish building the second stage booster down at the DSTO at Mawson lakes as you clearly are a rocket scientist here it is laid out very slowly and simply for you...

Yes Crows beat Port in the 'Dream Final'
Yes we sadly were not good enough and got smashed on that occasion.

I and others have tried to point out to you that one of the reasons for the difference was the Crows finished Minor premier (that's first place) while Port were lucky to make the finals and finished 8th (thats the LAST spot you can finish to play finals). This generally is a pointer to how the teams are performing higher up the ladder = good; lower = bad.

In the first week of the finals Neil Criag took the attitude that if i ignore it, it will go away, sadly when you are talking about Robert Harvey that doesn't cut it and the Saints won a game they really had no right winning. We beat North Melbourne easily which at the time was a pleasing surprise.
So the 8th placed team faced off against the Minor Premier in the 'Dream Final' and Port lost badly. The Crows then went and played the West Coast who despite a brief fright at the end of the game really didn't seem too troubled dispatching the all conquering mighty finals hero's and after beating the 8th placed team were beaten in a preliminary final.

You are holding this up as some sort of moniker for Port failures in finals, despite the fact that in the same finals series the Crows lost 2 finals. In more recent times Port despite having fewer chances than the Crows made a GF in 07 and the rest is a sad part of our history. So perhaps you could explain to me then how winning the 'Dream Final' helped the all conquering mighty finals hero's make a GF in 06, 07 or 08?! (which we managed to do) which is what we are talking about here....

Ok thanks, if you like i will go to the effort of transcribing this all into a pop up book with lots of picture's I'll even do it to the tune of the 'Pride of South Australia' and we can sit down and talk about how we can all Share the Pride in a Uncompromising, Inclusive and Proud fashion...

 

[Sekaj]

By the way ThunderPower, would you like to have a go at explaining how the Crows, who are so terrible in finals, can possibly defeat, humiliate even, a team like the Power who are apparently so fantastic in finals?

How is that possible? Please explain. So far none of the Power failures in this thread have been able to provide a suitable explanation. In fact, one could argue that they have in fact tried to 'deflect' from explaining this.

 

[Sekaj]

Yes Crows beat Port in the 'Dream Final'
Yes we sadly were not good enough and got smashed on that occasion.

Not being good enough seems to be a recurrent theme with the Power.

 

[drcollossimo]

Not being good enough seems to be a recurrent theme with the Power.

LOL so what explains the 06-08 seasons down at Crowland then?!

 

[Sekaj]

LOL so what explains the 06-08 seasons down at Crowland then?!

It explains why the Power constantly humiliate themselves and make themselves the laughing stock of the AFL i.e. 'dream final', 119, constant chokes, etc.

Did that make sense? Or should add some LOLs to my post?

LOL Did that make LOL sense? Or should LOL add LOL some LOLs LOL to my LOL post?

Is that better?