Unpopular Cricket Opinions

[PT Bar None]

Always thought "3rd man" was a weird name for a fielding position anyway.

 

[The Speaker]

Oh by the way, during commentary the female (i dont know who it is, but guessing Lisa Sthalekar or Mel Jones) said this batter etc thing was driven by the players, and the media are coming around to it now.

She also instructed her colleagues that if they do say "batsman" don't stop and correct themselves, just let it go and move on, and next time try to use "batter"

Which players?

 

[peternorth]

Which players?

She did not say

 

[The Speaker]

She did not say

Not even which group (ie. the men or the women or both)?

 

[peternorth]

Not even which group (ie. the men or the women or both)?

No she did not elaborate. Just players.

 

[Caesar]

On the flip side, no one ever got bent out of shape when it was still called a bosie either. Barely anyone knows who bosenquet is so no one is going to care now. This is a little different as the proposed change is being mooted on the pretence of offence.

Seems like a bit of a straw man argument to me. I don't see anyone running around trying to ban the word 'batsman'.

Part of the beauty of the English language is that nobody owns it. People make their own decisions about what terms they wish to use, and water collectively finds its own level. Getting upset about a perfectly natural process that has been happening for millennia seems a bit bizarre.

 

[The Speaker]

Part of the beauty of the English language is that nobody owns it. People make their own decisions about what terms they wish to use, and water collectively finds its own level. Getting upset about a perfectly natural process that has been happening for millennia seems a bit bizarre.

Which is also suddenly insistent terminology ie.

She also instructed her colleagues that if they do say "batsman" don't stop and correct themselves, just let it go and move on, and next time try to use "batter"

is galling. What if her colleagues want to continue using batsman?

 

[RedFury]

My favorite DC comic was the one where Batswoman took on the joker.

 

[SportsCentre]

When is the lexicon going to get around to removing the man from woman?

how about human?

 

[Caesar]

What if her colleagues want to continue using batsman?

I suppose they keep using it? She's entitled to her opinion but there's no such thing as the Word Police.

 

[Richard Pryor]

My favorite DC comic was the one where Batswoman took on the joker.

Believe it or not there is a Batwoman. Not to be confused with Batgirl.

 

[RedFury]

Believe it or not there is a Batwoman. Not to be confused with Batgirl.

Yep .. and apparently in the new series she bats for the other team. Too many puns there, based on current discussion.

 

[peternorth]

Which is also suddenly insistent terminology ie.



is galling. What if her colleagues want to continue using batsman?

They said they dont mind using batter etc.

 

[peternorth]

Anyway......BBL uniforms are poo and should feature collared shirts

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I don’t know if this is unpopular or not, but Luke Pomersbach was a huge loss for Australian cricket. Would have been a very good Test batsman.

 

[JackOutback]

Which is also suddenly insistent terminology ie.



is galling. What if her colleagues want to continue using batsman?

If they want to keep using batsman for men, I doubt many would care. If they called a woman a batsman, well, they'd just look like a tit.

 

[Caesar]

Trevor Hohns' involvement with the 1985 rebel tour of SA should have precluded his involvement in cricket administration.

 

[Gough]

Mike Whitney went to South Africa to see the place when he was offered a contract and when they tried to deny him entry to a beach because of a suspicion he might be coloured his mind was made up. Always loved Whit for that.

 

[Xtreme]

If the women are getting the knickers in a knot about cricket terminology. They can refer to women as batters... but the men will always be batsmen/batsman etc.

 

[PhatBoy]

Mike Whitney went to South Africa to see the place when he was offered a contract and when they tried to deny him entry to a beach because of a suspicion he might be coloured his mind was made up. Always loved Whit for that.

My former chief of staff was a NSW second XI stalwart for a long time, played heaps with Whit, Bayliss etc.

Told some classic stories about Whitney using the night tools

 

[Richard Pryor]

Trevor Hohns' involvement with the 1985 rebel tour of SA should have precluded his involvement in cricket administration.

It's hard to tell tone from text, but I think he comes across as a bit smug/smarmy about the affair here:

Still, he concedes to some naivety about the situation in South Africa. "It was of huge benefit to me, putting the political arguments aside. It was a cricketing decision. Everybody knew what was going on in South Africa. Maybe I was naive or what-have-you, but I thought maybe it might help South Africa get back into international cricket and as it turned out down the track, they did," Hohns says. "For me and Allan, it wasn't an issue because I wasn't part of that Australian side and hadn't been, so it probably didn't affect anybody greatly at that stage."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/rebels-the-85-south-africa-tour-20051210-ge1ekr.html

According to my quick maths skills he was over 30 in 1985 so I don't think naivety is really a reasonable excuse. Crediting the tours with bringing SA back into Test Cricket, and saying it didn't affect anyone because his getting banned didn't affect our Test team also isn't a good look.

 

[Damon_3388]

My former chief of staff was a NSW second XI stalwart for a long time, played heaps with Whit, Bayliss etc.

Told some classic stories about Whitney using the night tools

Classic night tool work, with the sloop pointing north

 

[The Speaker]

If they want to keep using batsman for men, I doubt many would care. If they called a woman a batsman, well, they'd just look like a tit.

Would they? The man in batsma/en refers to the fact there is a person with a bat, not to the sex of said person.

 

[archibald]

Mike Whitney went to South Africa to see the place when he was offered a contract and when they tried to deny him entry to a beach because of a suspicion he might be coloured his mind was made up. Always loved Whit for that.

So until he was personally affected by racism it was sweet? Not having a go but seems a touch sheltered.

 

[PhatBoy]

So until he was personally affected by racism it was sweet? Not having a go but seems a touch sheltered.

There’s a big difference between being told about something and then seeing it first hand to appreciate its magnitude and reach