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That is a tough one. I don't think I'd ever argue in favour of capital punishment, but there are times when it is applied as a punishment, and I couldn't honestly argue against it. I think this is one of those times.
Death or spending the rest of your miserable life stuck in a foetid Indian prison? I'd choose death. Buggers are getting off easy.
 

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Death or spending the rest of your miserable life stuck in a foetid Indian prison? I'd choose death. Buggers are getting off easy.

I tend to agree, let them deal with the general prison population. But part of me feels that the world is better off without some people.
 

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I always felt like the worst part of being sentenced to death was waiting around for your execution. It can take months, years can't it? That would be horrible. The actual execution, while terrible, would be relatively less terrifying as execution methods are meant to kill you instantly.
 

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I always felt like the worst part of being sentenced to death was waiting around for your execution. It can take months, years can't it? That would be horrible. The actual execution, while terrible, would be relatively less terrifying as execution methods are meant to kill you instantly.
I agree but I don't think this would be an unpopular opinion
 

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That is a tough one. I don't think I'd ever argue in favour of capital punishment, but there are times when it is applied as a punishment, and I couldn't honestly argue against it. I think this is one of those times.
Killing some one as a punishment is not unreasonable in many circumstances so in principle I don't have an issue with death itself.

However, the issue for me is the police are known to make mistakes, lie and create evidence and judges, juries, witnesses and lawyers can make errors in judgement for a variety of reasons.


In this specific case, I have no doubt the judge would have had politicians whisper in his ear the importance of making "the right" decision to avoid riots and deliver to the community what they want.

They probably are guilty and certainly deserve to die if guilty but the concept of a death penalty needs to be considered more broadly rather than a specific case. On the basis of the potential for error, I do not support the death penalty.
 
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Killing some one as a punishment is not unreasonable in many circumstances so in principle I don't have an issue with death itself.

However, the issue for me is the police are known to make mistakes, lie and create evidence and judges, juries, witnesses and lawyers can make errors in judgement for a variety of reasons.
Don't disagree with you and there must be better mechanisms in place to avoid mistakes. It is a serious problem. Yet taken to extreme you would just avoid sanctions altogether as imo life in prison is far worse then the death penalty.

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The fact that Australia does not have nuclear weapons (with the amount of uranium we have and sell off) is beyond negligent and in fact and potentially endangers Australian security in the future.

If I ever get cancer no way in hell I will submit for chemothreapy. I believe it does no good and has a shocking success rate. (The same materials were used in mustard gas after all).
 

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Don't disagree with you and there must be better mechanisms in place to avoid mistakes. It is a serious problem. Yet taken to extreme you would just avoid sanctions altogether as imo life in prison is far worse then the death penalty.

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The fact that Australia does not have nuclear weapons (with the amount of uranium we have and sell off) is beyond negligent and in fact and potentially endangers Australian security in the future.

If I ever get cancer no way in hell I will submit for chemothreapy. I believe it does no good and has a shocking success rate. (The same materials were used in mustard gas after all).
ooowww big call. Am I understanding you right, that you want nuclear weapons?
 

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ooowww big call. Am I understanding you right, that you want nuclear weapons?

Until the world sits in a big circle joining hands singing kumbuayh and simultaneously destroying all weapons bloody oath I'd want them. (Not to use obviously purely as it is a massive deterrent against any invasion in the future). We then send the message not to try anything dodgy, tell the US we will determine our foreign policy not them etc. Obviously no need to be as stupid as other nations. Get the finished product up and running then warn everyone off.
 

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Until the world sits in a big circle joining hands singing kumbuayh and simultaneously destroying all weapons bloody oath I'd want them. (Not to use obviously purely as it is a massive deterrent against any invasion in the future). We then send the message not to try anything dodgy, tell the US we will determine our foreign policy not them etc. Obviously no need to be as stupid as other nations. Get the finished product up and running then warn everyone off.
what would you say if we already have nuclear weapons on our shores? they aren't ours though but our US friends?

I will give you two guesses where!
 

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what would you say if we already have nuclear weapons on our shores? they aren't ours though but our US friends?

I will give you two guesses where!

Ohh sweet Jesus either on the base or wherever they have a station/have personnel stationed. Pine Gap? That is the worse possible outcome. Not only do we have an armed US on our shores getting the neighbours edgy, we have absolutely no say in anything that goes down but are the ones to wear the consequences.

Maybe we could hire one at mates rates.
 

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Ohh sweet Jesus either on the base or wherever they have a station/have personnel stationed. Pine Gap? That is the worse possible outcome. Not only do we have an armed US on our shores getting the neighbours edgy, we have absolutely no say in anything that goes down but are the ones to wear the consequences.

Maybe we could hire one at mates rates.
spot on.

That is a second hand but I am very comfortable with the source having served with the guy for 7 years.
 

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The original motivation for the "stolen generation" had some merit, and whilst completely shambolic, wrong and a failure no one has come up with an alternate solution for helping indigenous Australians
 

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The original motivation for the "stolen generation" had some merit, and whilst completely shambolic, wrong and a failure no one has come up with an alternate solution for helping indigenous Australians
I met a female aboriginal police officer who was part of the stolen generation. She was torn emotionally knowing she was not raised by her "natural" family but felt she belong with her "new" family. She also believed her life and opportunities were much greater because of the policy especially after meeting her "natural" family later in life.

In short she would have it no other way but did have a sense of loss.
 

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The death penalty, without exception, always says more about its perpetrators than its victims.

To maintain that the death of a useless piece of shit has any equivalence to the life of an innocent is a calculated insult to the victim of that crime.
 

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The original motivation for the "stolen generation" had some merit, and whilst completely shambolic, wrong and a failure no one has come up with an alternate solution for helping indigenous Australians
I met a female aboriginal police officer who was part of the stolen generation. She was torn emotionally knowing she was not raised by her "natural" family but felt she belong with her "new" family. She also believed her life and opportunities were much greater because of the policy especially after meeting her "natural" family later in life.

In short she would have it no other way but did have a sense of loss.

While some children who were at risk were no doubt taken in by caring people and given a better shot at life the problem with the original policy was that it was based around race and not at risk children. There is no doubt at times intervention is needed for children who are at risk both white and aboriginal. Yet to have a policy of removing children based on a racist assumption was completely unacceptable hence the apology. (Which was necessary and overdue imo)
 

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The death penalty, without exception, always says more about its perpetrators than its victims.

To maintain that the death of a useless piece of shit has any equivalence to the life of an innocent is a calculated insult to the victim of that crime.

It isn't but what the hell else do you do with people that frankly are beyond redemption and can never ever live in civil society again as they are too big a risk. Imprison them for life so they can brutalise other prisoners in for less crimes who are a shot at reforming? Look them in a dungeon? What's the point? May as well just finish what needs finishing and get on with life.
 
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