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Michael Di Venuto. Would have been a very handy test cricketer. He knew how to notch up a century and invariably contributed with the bat.
 
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Andy Ganteaume (sp.?) - has a higher career batting average than Bradman. For some reason was never selected again after making 127 on debut for the West Indies.

EDIT: Thought I'd do the right thing and look it up - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/51874.html?class=1;template=results;type=allround - made 112 in his only innnings, not 127.
According to cricinfo, he slowed down too much when nearing his hundred and contributed to the side not winning the match. Not a team player by the sound of it.
 

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I would have to say Ken Eastwood. Victorian who got picked to open (maybe in the mid to late 70's) and got 4 runs in his only bat. Out Hit Wicket. Pretty unsatisfying I would say. Did not get picked again
 

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Graeme Hick played plenty of International cricket but really was an unfulfilled talent. So unbelievably fragile mentally.
Yeah Hick was disappointing on the international stage, should have been a great test batsman with the talent he had but was too mentally soft.

Saw him play one of the best shots I've ever seen live at the WACA though when he pulled a fast, short ball for six in the 98/99 Ashes series, absolutely middled it. In typical Hick fashion he didn't last much longer though.
 

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I sometimes wonder if Atherton had just waited another over or two instead of declaring when Hick was on 98 that time, whether Hick would finally have got the mental monkey off his back and lived up to his potential.

Anyway, back on topic, I reckon Ian "Freak" Harvey was a massive disappointment. Had mountains of talent and could have been absolutely anything at international level, but ended up being little more than a bit-part ODI player for a few years.
 

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Highest score of 49 and never took a 5 wicket haul, yeah it was an interesting career.
 

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The funniest thing was the way McGain was pumped up by a faction on here to get a Baggy Green for a solid 12 months before that embarrassment in SAfrica.
That would have been because he was kicking ass for a solid 12 months prior to that time, but unfortunately when he did finally get the call-up, he had only just come back from an injury layoff and went into that test with virtually no recent cricket under his belt. Like Shaun Marsh in this series.
He was virtually thrown to the wolves and of course AB De Villiers and co targeted him, as the "newbie" and he didn't have the recent match confidence and so on to be able to withstand it.
If he'd made his debut say a couple of months earlier, before his injury and when he was in good form, there's every chance he would have gotten off to a good start and could have been good for us for a couple of years. The timing was terrible.
I mean throwing someone in for their first test match, against the equal best team in the world, on their own deck, when you're just coming back from injury, is a recipe for disaster. It's no surprise that disaster ensued.
 

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graeme hick????
dominated county cricket and couldnt play for england cause he hadnt been in england long enuf being born in s/a. then when he did get his chance only averaged 30ish with the bat in about 30 tests or something like that
 

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Andy Ganteaume (sp.?) - has a higher career batting average than Bradman. For some reason was never selected again after making 127 on debut for the West Indies.

EDIT: Thought I'd do the right thing and look it up - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/51874.html?class=1;template=results;type=allround - made 112 in his only innnings, not 127.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/image/230873.html?object=51874

Andy Ganteaume making a point in 2004. according to cricinfo he's still alive at 90. good innings.



now that's an internet meme in waiting if i've ever seen one
 

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looking around on cricinfo

sohail khan. 2 tests, 11 runs (including a six) with 2 DNB in 3 innings, and 1 wicket @ 245. limited over stats a bit better. current player last playing in sept.

roshan jurangpathy, 2 tests, 1 run @ 0.25, 1 wicket @ 93
 

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Anyway, back on topic, I reckon Ian "Freak" Harvey was a massive disappointment. Had mountains of talent and could have been absolutely anything at international level, but ended up being little more than a bit-part ODI player for a few years.
didn't even dominate at domestic level, like a player with his talent could/should have
 

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Brad Hodge - should have played a lot of test cricket and wasn't getting a game when he should have been, for example around 2004-2007 when Martyn was fiished and making no runs but we were hanging on.

Stuart McGill - A sensational spin bowler who should have played a hell of a lot more test cricket than he should but Warne was around.

Brad Haddin - unsatisfying just to watch when we all know there are better players around.
 
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One of the things that amazes me about both Hick and Ramprakash is how many opportunities they were both given. If you look at, say, Matthew Elliot... the guy averaged near 50 in FC, but closer to 33 in Tests. But he "only" played 21 Tests (and they came in some pretty small dribs and drabs).

But Graeme Hick had 65 Tests. And ended with a career average of 31. I know he was in and out of the team a fair bit, but 65 Tests is a loooong time to suck so badly. Ramprakash played 52 Tests for the craptastic career average of 27. To put that in perspective, that's about the same as Paul Reiffel.

No wonder English cricket sucked so hard.
 

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when i think of sucky england teams, i also think of the classic 'county all-rounder' (which could be described as having their own unsatisfactory international careers). they had a procession of the ealham, irani, craig 'cameron' white types, before flintoff and now broad/bresnan/swann who are going to play a lot longer and perform better than all those.
 

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when i think of sucky england teams, i also think of the classic 'county all-rounder' (which could be described as having their own unsatisfactory international careers). they had a procession of the ealham, irani, craig 'cameron' white types, before flintoff and now broad/bresnan/swann who are going to play a lot longer and perform better than all those.
martin bicknell fits into that category very nicely

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/player/9089.html
 

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Brad Hodge - should have played a lot of test cricket and wasn't getting a game when he should have been, for example around 2004-2007 when Martyn was fiished and making no runs but we were hanging on.

Stuart McGill - A sensational spin bowler who should have played a hell of a lot more test cricket than he should but Warne was around.

Brad Haddin - unsatisfying just to watch when we all know there are better players around.
nothing unsatisfying about taking over 200 test wickets
 

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atm I would say O'Keefe.

Is there a more successful spinner at FC level in Australia? Given we've given a baggy green to about a million spin bowlers in the past few years...
 

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atm I would say O'Keefe.

Is there a more successful spinner at FC level in Australia? Given we've given a baggy green to about a million spin bowlers in the past few years...
This.

This thread is dedicated to Magilla.

If the selectors werent knobs, and if MacGill wasn't such a nob, 2 spinners against England?

OMFG, would of rewritten the Ashes record books.

MacGill>Your favourite spinner other then S.K Warne.
 
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