Up the Arse! Goons Thread
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If only Arsenal had a multi billionaire owner....
Be interesting it cuts are made at the NFL side
Hawks1523
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Who wasn't a useless campaigner?
Yes I was searching for that this morning, will be keeping an eye on that
That too
Club is using Covid an excuse to get rid of staff it deems surplus to requirement. The reality is scouts are far less required now than what they were 10-20 years ago when we were leaders in acquiring young talent. Footage is far more easily obtainable and the demand in talent is far greater, you can guarantee that if one big club trying to get a young player than another big club is also looking at that same player. The bigger issue is selling the club as to why the player should pick us rather than finding him. It also harder to get young players to clubs now without breaking the rules, I don't know what the rules are but we have seen the likes of Barca get punished for signing kids too young or offering their parents money in order to make them pick them.
The only issue I have is Cagiaco supposedly has one of the better eyes for talent and he is supposed to be one of the guys on the chopping block. It doesn't really make a lot of sense given he only took over from Sven Mislintat 12-18 months ago and he was meant to be the reason behind Martinelli and Saliba signing. But you never truly know who is and isn't responsible for signings. Saliba for instance was a 17 year old playing Ligue 1 keeping the likes of Allan Saint Maxim in his pocket who be paid 30m for, I don't think these types of signings take a genius. Martinelli on the other hand was picked out of brazil 4th division but at the same time we payed 10m for him and he had trialled at United previously. Still I rated our 2019 summer window and think long term it will set the club up beautifully so not sure why the shake up with Cagiaco. But again unless your inside the four walls its simply guess work.
We should also expect that some of the outgoing scouts will be replaced and we have been linked with Sam Fagbemi in the past who Arteta apparently wants to take control of scouting local talent which is his role at City. That also another point of contention in that the talent England is producing is vastly better and being leaders in this market will both save money and potentially produce money when lesser talented players are sold. For instance we have apparently placed an 8m price tag of Florian Balogun who may be our most talented young striker and is leading goal scorer in the U23's but has yet to play a game and is behind Nketiah, John Jules and Martinelli if you consider him a striker and thats just our young strikers.
The Trophy, as awesome as it is, shouldn't fool anyone.
We've shown improvements but the performances against Liverpool,Man City (results aside) and Aston Villa were poor.
This squad needs to be overhauled;
Ozil, Guendouzi, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Sokratis and Elneny should all immediately be sold to whoever will take them.
Xhaka, Torreira, Chambers, Lacazette, Nelson, Martínez and Nketiah the club should be shopping around and selling.
Aubameyang should be offered a good deal but if he doesn't want to sign then he needs to go.
We've shown improvements but the performances against Liverpool,Man City (results aside) and Aston Villa were poor.
This squad needs to be overhauled;
Ozil, Guendouzi, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Sokratis and Elneny should all immediately be sold to whoever will take them.
Xhaka, Torreira, Chambers, Lacazette, Nelson, Martínez and Nketiah the club should be shopping around and selling.
Aubameyang should be offered a good deal but if he doesn't want to sign then he needs to go.
I can't honestly believe that this decision is not going to bite us in the ass.
Seems like a lot of the goodwill that the club generated from the end of the season, winning the Cup has diminished by this restructure. All the while pushing ahead with some new signings.
Very poorly handled. Hoping (although unlikely) that the club will reconsider its decision.
Very poorly handled. Hoping (although unlikely) that the club will reconsider its decision.
Yup.
You do realise we are one of the few clubs who have been paying employees their full wages since this pandemic started. It has come out that the scouts who are potentially losing their jobs aren't a part of the 55 losing their jobs and are actually being reviewed by Edu in a restructure of the scouting department. Meaning the 55 likely being made redundant are likely admin and match day staff who roles at the club are no longer required or won't be required for some time as a result of Covid. We have the third most employees behind Liverpool and United and are far ahead of the likes of City and Chelsea so even with the redundancies we are still employing a large number of people. As harsh as it is the club isn't a charity and if you don't have a role to do then it doesn't make sense to have job.
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It's a real hard thing to see happen but the club could have cut their losses four months ago, instead they kept everybody on until the season was officially finished (albeit supported by player pay cuts). Everybody is being forced to tighten their belts, we just had too many notches.
Problem is it'll look colder when we start paying for new players but we need to be better on field to stay viable.
Problem is it'll look colder when we start paying for new players but we need to be better on field to stay viable.
One of the other issues with it was the players took pay cuts to support these employees. Then the club turn around and sack them anyway. Really deceitful by management and the players from all reports the player seem very angry about it, in the end Ozil was right not to take a paycut, because the club wouldn't give him assurances about where the cuts were going.
If you don't plan on keeping them around, fair enough that is the club prerogative, but don't blame Covid and angle it like you can't afford to pay them and pay the players their full wages back.
Strong rumours were selling AMN there’s a bunch of other players I’d rather get rid of before him, has come on pretty well, he wasn’t happy where he was playing first off but has proven he’s a handy player and a bit of a mr. fix it, would not be getting rid of him tbh
I’d be disappointed if we sold AMN. That’d be a mistake.
Lacazette on his way to athletic for 30m
Holding could be heading to Leeds
Gabriel has been taken off the Lille website and not used for their friendly.
We’ve agreed terms with Coutinho apparently and Willian to join next week
Holding could be heading to Leeds
Gabriel has been taken off the Lille website and not used for their friendly.
We’ve agreed terms with Coutinho apparently and Willian to join next week
30m is cheap for Laca. I'll miss him but won't begrudge him for wanting to leave. Atletico are a step above us. so don't blame him either.
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Apparently nothing in the Coutinho links?
Lacazette perhaps been used in some sort of trade plus cash for Partey perhaps?
I just get my info from an arsenal twitter that just wraps up the daily news and provides the links to the sources. As with many of these news articles, they can be wrong but where there’s smoke there’s fire
This makes a bit more sense 30m for laca is awfully cheap
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If atletico are a step above us then less goals there for laca
Yes that’s my view too, £30m does seem on the cheaper side. Not suggesting he’d command the £50m+ we bought him for, his form and numbers don’t really stack up for that.
But I imagine there’s some manoeuvres here to try and get a favourable outcome with Partey.
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