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Very interesting. On another note, not sure if it was mentioned here but the tour dates for Arsenal's visit to Sydney was announced last week.

13 July and 15 July are the matches. Anyone here going to go? I actually forgot it was happening to be honest, the announcement came and went pretty quietly last week.
 

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Very interesting. On another note, not sure if it was mentioned here but the tour dates for Arsenal's visit to Sydney was announced last week.

13 July and 15 July are the matches. Anyone here going to go? I actually forgot it was happening to be honest, the announcement came and went pretty quietly last week.
Yeah I will.

Missus suggested and she wants to as well. :D
 

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"There are people who have been going down there for 30, 40 years," he says, "but now that the club has all this Premier League money, they don't care about what we have to say, because there's always someone who'll want your seat."

"It used to be that I could just call up David Dein, who owned 30 per cent of the club," Payton says of the AST's new relationship with the hierarchy. "It's a very different relationship now to, say, call up someone who might be called the communications director who just reports in to someone else. The relationship now is much more like a consumer forum, discussing with executives at the club about fairly low-level decisions, rather than having discussions with owner-directors who are also supporters. It's much more of a 'them and us' relationship, much more consumer-based."

"From 1998 onwards, Arsenal became very fashionable," Bazell says. "Before that, it was very much a working-class club. This was a club built by the working class, by workers in the old Woolwich gun factory, and it's been stolen by the rich. But football changes the way life changes".

At the back of it all, it's important to remember that Arsenal is a business with a mandate to maximise its profitability, not to make concessions to a community with which its relationship has become little more than an inconvenience for both parties. But perhaps this shows us more than anything how far the club has drifted from the ethic upon which it was built


Eh, Football club stops being a club and becomes a business.

40+ years fans can't accept that it is now a global business not "their" club anymore. It sad but that's just the way the world is.

Ticket prices do need to be looked at across the league though.
 

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Very interesting. On another note, not sure if it was mentioned here but the tour dates for Arsenal's visit to Sydney was announced last week.

13 July and 15 July are the matches. Anyone here going to go? I actually forgot it was happening to be honest, the announcement came and went pretty quietly last week.
Definitely, will take work off if I have to so I can go to both games.
 

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Meh as long as we finish 3rd-4th i don't really see how our season is any worse from the last 12.

Let's face it at the beginning of the season if you were told "Arsenal will finish 3rd-4th" again, would you really be surprised? The only reason people are getting bent out of shape is that the two teams we are behind are Leicester and Spurs, which NOBODY saw happening.

Our season will be a C - passed but underachieving as always
 

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Yeah, based on results we're at a C-.

But factor in that this is the poorest performing Arsenal side we've seen in several years - we struggle to score, shitty GD, don't actually play well that often anymore, many players have regressed - and it's probably lower than that.

Off the top of my head - United (h), Swansea (a), City (h), Leicester (a), Bournemouth (h), Everton (a), Watford (h) are the only games we've played at a great level.
 

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Well finishing third isn't exactly poor in the grand scheme of things. Decent prize money + CL.

Overall perspective on how the season has unfolded it isn't great. But it has not been a complete failure.

Yeah the highest I would go is maybe a C+
 

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It's a funny one - had we been told before the season that we'd finish above Chelsea, United, Liverpool and (maybe) City, I doubt many of us would've seen that as a C or D mark!
Its bizarre isn't it, if you told someone that at the beginning of the season you'd say it was a dead set certainty that Arsenal would have then won the league.

That's what makes the giggling at Tottenham a little more enjoyable - finishing above Arsenal, Liverpool, Man United, Chelsea and City.....yet still not good enough to win the league! I honestly do feel a little sorry for them (just a little)
 

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I think a C+ is about a fair assessment, particularly if we seal 3rd spot and avoid the 4th placed playoffs.

Lack of silverware prevents a higher grading. No one really could have predicted the season would pan out the way it did.

Chelsea's rapid decline and Mourinho's sacking would've been the story of the season in any other year really. Leicester's unbelievable victory has relegated the Chelsea story a distant memory almost.
 

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Statistically, I'd give this year a B-. In a year when a large # of the big clubs struggled, we held our own, and look to be finishing 3rd, with automatic entrance into the CL. Grading goes against a set of threshold rankings, and we look like we'll finish above 16 or 17 teams. Maybe even a B.

But on a subjective level, I struggle to give this year anything above a D. I feel like giving it worse. We score more points against ManU, Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham and 'Pool than we have done in a long time, and we're arguing about third, and finishing well off first? We beat the eventual champions home AND away FFS!

We had a year with an abominable number of shithouse results against shithouse opposition. Were it not for Ozil, Iwobi and in patches Sanchez & Campbell, we'd not be arguing about 3rd either. We'd be arguing about Europa League. 6 weeks in, and everyone in here, myself included, were finally thinking "this is our year" in a realistic and genuine manner. Nope.

Too many passengers this year. We have a good squad, we really do. Sure, we have some dead wood, but every squad does, and it looks like we'll lose some of that dead wood over summer. But too many of our players were passengers too often this season.
 

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Player ratings would be interesting too. Ozil, Cech, Bellerin and Monreal would be the standouts. All deserve As.

Bellerin dipped a bit in form after his injury but can't really ask for much more from him, he's still a teenager. Koscielny has been pretty consistent and would be around a B+. Sanchez has had patches where he's shown his best but overall hasn't been as good as last year.

Ramsey, Walcott, Ox would struggle to get more than a C. Or a D if being harsh.
 

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Walcott gets a straight F, Ramsey no higher than a D. They've been shithouse.

The Optus thing has ****** things up a bit. Anyone here who isn't with Optus gonna get the package? I struggle to see how their sales strategy has been given the OK by the ACCC.
 

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Walcott gets a straight F, Ramsey no higher than a D. They've been shithouse.

The Optus thing has ****** things up a bit. Anyone here who isn't with Optus gonna get the package? I struggle to see how their sales strategy has been given the OK by the ACCC.
Optus can straight up get ******. Someone over there has screwed this up badly. Surely SURELY someone thought "let's recuperate our money by on-selling to Foxtel Sport"???

There are large area chunks that can't get Optus broadband at all, either satellite or lined. Optus haven't indicated how they plan to service those issues.

I can see this costing them the kind of money that ends up with people losing their jobs.

My fiancée and I still have her house in the US. Going to VPN through there I think.

ETA: Agreed. Theo has just been shit this year.
 

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Optus can straight up get stuffed. Someone over there has screwed this up badly. Surely SURELY someone thought "let's recuperate our money by on-selling to Foxtel Sport"???

There are large area chunks that can't get Optus broadband at all, either satellite or lined. Optus haven't indicated how they plan to service those issues.

I can see this costing them the kind of money that ends up with people losing their jobs.
Yeah, the bolded was brought up on SEN before. Heaps of callers saying they can't justify Optus based on this alone - despite being hardcore EPL fans.

Foxtel's attempts at offering BeIN and delayed EPL have been decent, but for me personally the delayed EPL package is useless - I won't be going down the route of avoiding social media and the result of games just to view them 12 hours later. At the moment it's a pretty shitty situation for everyone.
 
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