Up the Arse! Goons Thread

[RickSanchez]

Anyone know much about De Vrij?
Few teams linked to him and I remember being linked to him about a year ago, and maybe like 4 years or so ago when he was at Feyenoord.
It's probably just all rumours or whatever, but I don't think his price tag is too high.

 

[Cruyff14]

Reckon Per might be just about done after that.

 

[elhadjihenry]

Anyone know much about De Vrij?
Few teams linked to him and I remember being linked to him about a year ago, and maybe like 4 years or so ago when he was at Feyenoord.
It's probably just all rumours or whatever, but I don't think his price tag is too high.

Is a big target for Chelsea apparently after Kouliably snubbed them, ~15 million pounds is the rumoured price tag. We have been linked with him in the past so wouldn't be surprised if there is some interest there.

 

[PendlePie]

"Sign a starting-quality CB or we're a joke of a club run by schmucks" - some might have said this beforehand, but it's even more imperative we do now.

It's not as if time or a lack of suitable targets are factors, either. Simply put, we either get it done or we enjoy falling out of the top 4-5 (let alone actual contention).

 

[Benno_900]

Anyone read that Per maybe out for up to 5 months?
If this is indeed accurate, 100% need to buy a starting CB now.
Someone to partner Kos, have Gabriel/Holding as backup, as well others who can play that position (maybe not at an amazing level).
Then maybe loan Holding out in Jan or whenever, when Per is back from injury.
Really wouldn't want Gabriel to partner Koscielny for too long, don't really rate him at the moment.
Per is already slow and old, a big injury will just make things worse.,

We went in to a season with 2 centre backs recently.

Had to play Monreal at CB for half a season. Was great fun.

 

[glenferry23]

Koscielny also will likely miss the start of the season (along with Giroud), pretty sure Wenger said recently the Euro players will be given an extended break.

Not great news about Mertesacker but plenty of time to rectify it.

 

[Genesis67]

When was the last time a 20yo came into a contending team and killed it?

Rob Holding, come on down!!!

 

[Marc Murphy]

Chambers and Gabriel CB pairing... reminiscent of the youth team we sent to slaughter at Old Trafford in 2011.

 

[bok_party]

We still have chambers too who has shown he can do the job but he's still young and inexperienced. Ideally, we sign another CB to partner Kos with Gabriel and per backup and chambers/holding preferably loaned out with an option to recall.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Anyone read that Per maybe out for up to 5 months?
If this is indeed accurate, 100% need to buy a starting CB now.
Someone to partner Kos, have Gabriel/Holding as backup, as well others who can play that position (maybe not at an amazing level).
Then maybe loan Holding out in Jan or whenever, when Per is back from injury.
Really wouldn't want Gabriel to partner Koscielny for too long, don't really rate him at the moment.
Per is already slow and old, a big injury will just make things worse.,

Even if its not accurate we still need to sign a starting centre back to partner Kos.

 

[NTRabbit]

In English, this is Lyon claiming that Arsenal bid €35m for Lacazette, rather than the €48m everyone has reported today, and stating that the bid has been rejected outright because Lacazette is ‘irreplaceable’ and staying in France.

 

[PendlePie]

Well at least there's dialogue. Don't mind us starting with a (relatively) low offer.

Lyon's posturing this early is no surprise.

 

[glenferry23]

Interesting that they would release a statement about it.

The irreplaceable comment perhaps translates into "give us a shitload more money".

 

[NTRabbit]

That's how most people are reading it, and there's a suggestion that a public statement on twitter is meant to be an insult to Arsenal, designed to drive us off, because of how much we prefer to conduct all transfer business in private. Lyon really don't want to sell him, not to us, not to Napoli, who are supposedly also inquiring.

 

[Cruyff14]

Haha this is great

 

[Shoei]

The full translation isn't an insult to Arsenal at all;

The club released an official statement, which said:

‘Lyon categorically deny having received a 48m euro offer for the transfer of Alexandre Lacazette as reported by ‘Le Progres’ this morning.

‘The club regrets that once more ‘Le Progres’ has not taken the time to contact it before publishing this false information which creates confusion on the day that the Olympique Lyonnais group publishes it’s annual turnover of 218.1m Euros, an increase of 111% on 2014/15 figures.

‘The reality is that Arsenal Football Club formulated a 35m Euros offer which Olympique Lyonnais has not considered for the sole reason that OL will keep Alexandre Lacazette who is considered irreplaceable and one of the key leaders of Bruno Genesio’s squad.’

Its also cute that they published their annual turnover as a sign of strength. The only problem is that includes €58.1 million on player sales and doesn't include any spending on players coming into the team which will be included in the new financial year.

Without player sales they only returned an increase in revenue of €63m (66% increase), which is a great effort but not as amazing as the 111% including player sales.

€35m is about 30m. We'll probably meet them somewhere in the middle of €35m - €48m. Wenger has shown he'll spend the money on the right player and that kind of bid tells me he's seriously interested. Lyon knows Lacazette wants to leave and has done for the last season or so and Arsenal would have had dialogue with him about a move otherwise we wouldn't be bidding.

I also doubt Lyon would be in a position, posturing aside, to turn down that kind of money for a single player.

 

[NTRabbit]

The insulting part is not the content, but that it was a public statement. Arsenal despises transfer-by-media.

 

[PendlePie]

The full translation isn't an insult to Arsenal at all;

The club released an official statement, which said:

‘Lyon categorically deny having received a 48m euro offer for the transfer of Alexandre Lacazette as reported by ‘Le Progres’ this morning.

‘The club regrets that once more ‘Le Progres’ has not taken the time to contact it before publishing this false information which creates confusion on the day that the Olympique Lyonnais group publishes it’s annual turnover of 218.1m Euros, an increase of 111% on 2014/15 figures.

‘The reality is that Arsenal Football Club formulated a 35m Euros offer which Olympique Lyonnais has not considered for the sole reason that OL will keep Alexandre Lacazette who is considered irreplaceable and one of the key leaders of Bruno Genesio’s squad.’

Its also cute that they published their annual turnover as a sign of strength. The only problem is that includes €58.1 million on player sales and doesn't include any spending on players coming into the team which will be included in the new financial year.

Without player sales they only returned an increase in revenue of €63m (66% increase), which is a great effort but not as amazing as the 111% including player sales.

€35m is about 30m. We'll probably meet them somewhere in the middle of €35m - €48m. Wenger has shown he'll spend the money on the right player and that kind of bid tells me he's seriously interested. Lyon knows Lacazette wants to leave and has done for the last season or so and Arsenal would have had dialogue with him about a move otherwise we wouldn't be bidding.

I also doubt Lyon would be in a position, posturing aside, to turn down that kind of money for a single player.

Awesome post

 

[NTRabbit]

You can see why we weren't in for Higuain now, after the utterly ridiculous price Juve just paid for him

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Didn't West Ham put in a bid for Lacazette earlier in the summer which was more than that but got rejected ? LOL

 

[NTRabbit]

They said on Sky that the bid from Arsenal came ages ago, before the West Ham one, but for some reason Lyon made no response until now, long after we'd given up on hearing back and moved on. Lyon just being really weird about it today for unknown reasons.

 

[glenferry23]

You can see why we weren't in for Higuain now, after the utterly ridiculous price Juve just paid for him

He had a €94m release clause in his Napoli contract. That's an insane amount of money but there was no such excuse 3 years ago when we missed the chance to sign him from RM.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

The transfer period thus far has been a complete fail if are looking to compete for the Title, but I suppose we know that is not the Owners, Boards & Managers ambition.

 

[Genesis67]

The insulting part is not the content, but that it was a public statement. Arsenal despises transfer-by-media.

It's not Arsenal as a whole that despises transfer by media, it's specifically Arsene, and he seems to have a history of shutting down transfers that get out into the public domain before completion.

 

[NTRabbit]

Transfer-by-media might be exciting for the fans in the off season, but it's s**t for the club.