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shane edwards, prestia and basically your whole team and the whole bulldogs team say hi!Why are collingwood allowed to throw the ball 20 times a game?
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shane edwards, prestia and basically your whole team and the whole bulldogs team say hi!Why are collingwood allowed to throw the ball 20 times a game?
The best way to practice is to actually umpire. Looking at videos doesn't help as much as actually seeing contests from the ground.So actually sitting down as full time employees and talking about interpretations would go a long way to stopping the issue where each of the 3 thinks a rule means something different. Sure a simplified set of rules would help but how do you even go about simplifying some of our rules?
NBA for example has 65 full time refs on the books that oversee 1260 regular season games so roughly 60 games each over around 7 months given 3 officials per game, they are hardly ran off their feet.
The AFL alone makes around 650mil per year that's nothing to sneeze at and they are on record as saying that the only reason the officials are not full time is because some of them make around 250k in their normal jobs and if we went full time those people would be lost, as far as reasons go that is pretty ******* dumb.
Stop playing your grand final.Funny how many Tigers fans are sooking in here
we've played in as many GF's as you in the past 30 yearsStop playing your grand final.
we've played in as many GF's as you in the past 30 years
Stop playing yourself
zeroHow many wins?
zero
keep living off past glories- we will win one before you
rawrYep you too - keep living off past glor.... oh wait.
Heave ho
This is why the AFL is screwed:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-27/they-were-the-correct-calls-umpire-stands-by-anzac-day-calls
Not only is the umpiring error riddled, but they stand by those decisions and refuse to accept that there is a problem. It's way too inconsistent. The umpiring department needs an overhaul.
wahwah wahI disagree with every single call that Ryan is backing up. He's wrong on every count and I watched them over and over.
With Stephenson - who just threw it. He's basically saying that you can throw the ball if you get tackled without prior opportunity as long as it's an attempt to get rid of it. So incorrect disposal no longer exists does it? He was holding the ball with one arm, he chose to hold it then he decided to throw it.
Crisp had prior, was tackled and got a handball away but it was far too late - holding the ball.
Tippa was at the same height when he got the ball (slightly crouched) as when Grundy tackled. It started high and stayed high. Ryan claims it started low and Tippa shrugged to make it go high.
Pendles clearly saw oncoming traffic and decided to go head first . He's a smart player and knew exactly what he was doing. He's much smarter than the umpires. Again completely wrong call.
The worst one of the lot was Hosking Elliot. Ryan is saying he clearly got a handball. Ah no he clearly missed it so it was a throw. I'm not too sure what this guy was looking at but he's seeing totally different things to reality.
To make errors is human to dismiss them and not man up to your mistakes is cowardly and stupid.
Ryan needs to go.
I disagree with every single call that Ryan is backing up. He's wrong on every count and I watched them over and over.
With Stephenson - who just threw it. He's basically saying that you can throw the ball if you get tackled without prior opportunity as long as it's an attempt to get rid of it. So incorrect disposal no longer exists does it? He was holding the ball with one arm, he chose to hold it then he decided to throw it.
Crisp had prior, was tackled and got a handball away but it was far too late - holding the ball.
Tippa was at the same height when he got the ball (slightly crouched) as when Grundy tackled. It started high and stayed high. Ryan claims it started low and Tippa shrugged to make it go high.
Pendles clearly saw oncoming traffic and decided to go head first . He's a smart player and knew exactly what he was doing. He's much smarter than the umpires. Again completely wrong call.
The worst one of the lot was Hosking Elliot. Ryan is saying he clearly got a handball. Ah no he clearly missed it so it was a throw. I'm not too sure what this guy was looking at but he's seeing totally different things to reality.
Yeah, I agree it was a free. It was a throw or HTB, one or the other. Ryan should have just said "the umpire thought it was a legit handball, but on closer inspection it wasn't. Human error".
Let's review your reviews.
Nah, i'm on the umpire's side here. He got it out legally and well within time.
No chance HTB. He had prior and hit the ground then handballed. I agree it's marginal and 10 of those get by every game. Should be paid.
Thought this was the most obvious non-free. Tippa dropped his knees *and* raised his arm. He completely caused any high contact and it should be play on every day of the week.
Nope. The tackled started high. It was always high. I'm shocked that you can't see that. Watch the slo-mo
Yeah, probably. Players have a duty of care to themselves - he made to attempt to protect himself and he should be obligated to do so. I understand what Ryan is saying but you do need an element of common sense in umpiring to prevent players doing what Pendles did. Turn side on FFS.
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Not sure what you're looking at here - you probably need to understand that WHE only needs to *attempt* to handball or kick as he didn't have prior. Which he clearly did by trying to throw the ball on his boot. You're saying that should be called a throw - well it never has by any umpire i've ever seen. That would have been a howler if it was called.
I'm not sure what you're looking at. WHE clearly had prior - clearly! He tried to palm off a tackler. He has to dispose of the ball correctly. Didn't make contact HTB without question. For Ryan to say he handballed it shows that he's making stuff up.
Of those 5, 3 were clearly correct calls, 1 clearly incorrect (the first HTB) and 1 probably incorrect. Ryan would have had more credibility saying that - we all acknowledge that umpires do make mistakes, but it doesn't do anyone any good by defending the indefensible.
This is why the AFL is screwed:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-27/they-were-the-correct-calls-umpire-stands-by-anzac-day-calls
Precisely. That scenario Happens and is paid HTB every fricken game. Yet the one they let go was the correct call?If you’re tackled to the ground with plenty of prior opportunity l. It shouldn’t matter if he eventually got a Handball out. He already had his chance to handball. They really have made rules for holding the ball just moronic. They can’t justify that
Disagree. He threw it onto his boot.I disagree with every single call that Ryan is backing up. He's wrong on every count and I watched them over and over.
With Stephenson - who just threw it. He's basically saying that you can throw the ball if you get tackled without prior opportunity as long as it's an attempt to get rid of it. So incorrect disposal no longer exists does it? He was holding the ball with one arm, he chose to hold it then he decided to throw it.
Not sure about far too late. It all happened pretty quick, tackled to ground and handballed straight away, could have gone either way.Crisp had prior, was tackled and got a handball away but it was far too late - holding the ball.
Disagree, from one angle you can see it started across the upper arm. Grundy did a great job with that tackle.Tippa was at the same height when he got the ball (slightly crouched) as when Grundy tackled. It started high and stayed high. Ryan claims it started low and Tippa shrugged to make it go high.
Disagree. He bent over to pick up the ball, you're allowed to do that, even if you know high contact may come. Free every day of the week. When he detected imminent contact from knees he tucked his head under further - this is an instinctual reaction to protect the face. He had the choice of taking contact to the face or top of the head, he wasn't adding mayo.Pendles clearly saw oncoming traffic and decided to go head first . He's a smart player and knew exactly what he was doing. He's much smarter than the umpires. Again completely wrong call.
Not clear either way if he got a handball, I'd say more likely he didn't. Hard to decide in a split second when you might not have a good view. But yeah Ryan shouldn't be saying it was a clear handball, should just say the ump thought it was a handball at the time but not really clear.The worst one of the lot was Hosking Elliot. Ryan is saying he clearly got a handball. Ah no he clearly missed it so it was a throw. I'm not too sure what this guy was looking at but he's seeing totally different things to reality.
He's one of the better umps.To make errors is human to dismiss them and not man up to your mistakes is cowardly and stupid.
Ryan needs to go.
Think you got the 2 htb incidents mixed up in your post.Yeah, I agree it was a free. It was a throw or HTB, one or the other. Ryan should have just said "the umpire thought it was a legit handball, but on closer inspection it wasn't. Human error".
Not sure what you're looking at here - you probably need to understand that WHE only needs to *attempt* to handball or kick as he didn't have prior. Which he clearly did by trying to throw the ball on his boot. You're saying that should be called a throw - well it never has by any umpire i've ever seen. That would have been a howler if it was called.
Disagree. He threw it onto his boot.
If he threw it in another direction then you would have a point, but he was trying to kick it an did actually kick it.
What a surprise!!!! AFL have confirmed the umpiring decisions in the last quarter were correct. LOLYep. Just like those atrocious decisions in R2 for Hawthorn v Bulldogs, particularly the Sicily push and the O’meara free kick reversal for a shove in the chest that happens all the time, which all combined arguably cost us the match when the game was in the balance. AFL subsequently came out and confirmed those decisions were correctly paid yet the push and shove continues to go on without penalty.
So brace yourselves for the spin those clowns will put on it this time.