US Open 2007

[Syd Kennets]

Ok So winners including serve taking out the 5th set, is 51 Federer 44 Nadal.

Thats 7 the difference? or is it 4?

Just so you understand TP : Total 65-50 Minus Set 5 14-6 = After set 4 51-44.

51 Minus 44....= 7.

And that must include service winners, which arent Aces. Which obviously are still winners.

 

[Total Power]

Ok So winners including serve taking out the 5th set, is 51 Federer 44 Nadal.

Thats 7 the difference? or is it 4?

Just so you understand TP : Total 65-50 Minus Set 5 14-6 = After set 4 51-44.

51 Minus 44....= 7.

And that must include service winners, which arent Aces. Which obviously are still winners.

do you even know what a winner is????? i doubt it.A winner is a point where the opponent doesnt get a racquet on....which means forced errors are not winners.Hence service winners are only aces
Then according to your theory anyway, karlovic better than anyone? since he has more winners than anyone in a match???

 

[Corrosion]

ok so lets compare, groundstroke winners, unforced errors, first serve percentage, break points received total points won etc etc? i can tell you rafa was ahead in all of them till that final set. But dont let the facts get in your way.


Federer Nadal (after set 4)
Winners (groundstrokes only) 37 40
Unforced errors 31 22
First serve % 68 73
Break points 1/3 4/6

He broke rafa ONCE...in the entire match till that final set.Maybe the stats lie as well.So tell me mr corrison, where exactly do you see roger better than rafa in those statts?

Why showcase the stats up to the 4th set? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there five sets? So, why don't you bring up the stats after the 5th set, and you'll see where Roger is superior to My Clay Court.

 

[Total Power]

Why showcase the stats up to the 4th set? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there five sets? So, why don't you bring up the stats after the 5th set, and you'll see where Roger is superior to My Clay Court.

i give the backflip 10/10

Heres what you said

Originally Posted by Total Power
come back when federer on clay comes as close as nadal does on grass. Rafa was actually outplaying federer till that last set.

What match are you talking about? Wimbeldon Final? If so........LOL, you know nothing.

Going out of context to save your arse?

 

[Corrosion]

The sets were even 2 a piece. How exactly is that out-playing your opponent? They were each other's equal for 4 sets, trading blow for blow really, like a boxing fight that last's the whole distance. Roger's superiority showed in the deciding set, which shows why he is one of the greatest players of all-time.

 

[Total Power]

The sets were even 2 a piece. How exactly is that out-playing your opponent? They were each other's equal for 4 sets, trading blow for blow really, like a boxing fight that last's the whole distance. Roger's superiority showed in the deciding set, which shows why he is one of the greatest players of all-time.

federer unable to get a break point

Federers 24 aces kept him in the match, other than that, he would have been done in straight sets.

Rafa broke federer 4 times and only lost a set in an extremely tight tie breaker.

All the signs points at rafa outplaying federer on grass, too bad he couldnt finish it off, but next year he will.

 

[Ricketts]

Speaking of selective stats, why only look at the first 4 sets?

 

[Total Power]

Speaking of selective stats, why only look at the first 4 sets?

that is the main focus of our debate, he was outplaying federer and choked in the final set.He is only 21 and will get better in time.He will beat federer next year, bookmark it.

 

[Ricketts]

So many things to bookmark, i'm starting to wish i actually had

 

[Total Power]

So many things to bookmark, i'm starting to wish i actually had

atleast he is improving 2 wimbledon finals in a row..comeback when someone else can get as close to federer in a slam final

 

[roostersgal4eva]

atleast he is improving 2 wimbledon finals in a row..comeback when someone else can get as close to federer in a slam final

Novak did - inexperiance cost him

I dont want to bag Rafa but i think Novak is 2nd atmo and in my opinion could win a grand slam next year - which one im not willing to predict but I hope to god its here in Oz

 

[Total Power]

Meh...i couldnt care less who wins it (other than rafa obviously) as long as its not duderer.