NWO/Illuminati US politics - Pt 5

[Kurve]

Here is PART 4

Donald Trump was sworn in as president of the United States on Monday 20th January, 2025 in Washington DC.

The Assassination of Charlie Kirk

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Anti-trans commentary and nastiness will be deleted and warnings issued.

 

[Werewolf]

I'm putting together this thread for the 2020 US election cycle, to prevent this topic from hijacking other threads

 

[Ghost Patrol]

So you believe that God takes into Heaven those that don’t repent?

What does your bible say about Mossad?

 

[Bloods86]

Today we've established Lebbo picks and chooses what stuff he cares about from the bible.

It's a common practice. It's not necessarily intentional, different groups will focus on different parts and ignore/limit influence of others, and people who live in those bubbles long enough become hardened in their views. This was my case, until I took more seriously those parts of the Bible which spoke about immigrants, looking after the poor, the sick, prisoners, redistributing wealth etc.

Conservative politics has achieved a lot off the back of people focusing on particular "moral" issues like same sex behaviour/marriage (which I think the Bible opposes but doesn't harp on as much as it does about caring for immigrants, those in need etc) or abortion (which has no clear position biblically), and a general assumption that "Christian" nations should be wary of introducing people of different religions, which would seem to run counter to the New Testament's mission focus.

 

[Bloods86]

Why is it irrelevant?

Fine, I'll hand-hold you through it...

Because whether there is an element of cost or risk to safety doesn't factor into whether Christians should love and care for people, even those considered rivals or enemies.

And even if this didn't include criminals, then it is still irrelevant to Trump admin actions against non criminals and those following legal processes.

 

[faible]

Fine, I'll hand-hold you through it...

Because whether there is an element of cost or risk to safety doesn't factor into whether Christians should love and care for people, even those considered rivals or enemies.

And even if this didn't include criminals, then it is still irrelevant to Trump admin actions against non criminals and those following legal processes.

Ironically, modern conservatives would HATE Jesus.

A brown man preaching tolerance of minorities, forgiveness for criminals, and spending time and money on helping the needy?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

hahahaha

 

[Bloods86]

Ironically, modern conservatives would HATE Jesus.

A brown man preaching tolerance of minorities, forgiveness for criminals, and spending time and money on helping the needy?

He was once a refugee and his ministry was itinerant, so was homeless by choice.

 

[bourbons]

Trump may have just defeated the leftist armies opposing him.

Are these leftist armies in the room with us right now?

 

[bourbons]

Gotta keep up with the news mate.

Could be anything mate.

I mean lets be honest, he could outlaw wind turbines and you'd be like "Trump may have just defeated the leftist armies opposing him"

You're an absolute cooker, who knows WTF you could be on about lol

 

[faible]

Are these leftist armies in the room with us right now?

They really do view Trump as that weird homoerotic AI version with muscles and a sword or some such don't they.

 

[bourbons]

Today we've established Lebbo picks and chooses what stuff he cares about from the bible.

 

[bourbons]

Trump announces crackdown on crime in Washington DC

Follow the latest headlines from ABC News, Australia's most trusted media source, with live events, audio and on-demand video from the national broadcaster.

www.abc.net.au

you can be violent to them thou if you are right wing and as a bonus get a pardon for attacking the capital police

Trump orders immediate release of everyone involved in January 6 riot

The president's first act upon his return to the Oval Office is to sign an order pardoning almost 1,500 people involved in the insurrection.

www.abc.net.au

Good of him to put to bed another cooker narrative ie. that the POTUS can't call the national guard into Washington and thats why he couldn't do it on J6

 

[Bloods86]

Could be anything mate.

I mean lets be honest, he could outlaw wind turbines and you'd be like "Trump may have just defeated the leftist armies opposing him"

You're an absolute cooker, who knows WTF you could be on about lol

Can only assume they mean the nomination of the new Labor Statistics commissioner, after the last one wouldn't spout propaganda.

 

[Lebbo73]

Good of him to put to bed another cooker narrative ie. that the POTUS can't call the national guard into Washington and thats why he couldn't do it on J6

Who was the speaker on J6?
The Defence rests your Honour!

 

[Mofra]

Today we've established Lebbo picks and chooses what stuff he cares about from the bible.

Does anyone else here eat shellfish?

 

[faible]

Does anyone else here eat shellfish?

No I'm a good follower of our one and only great Lord.

 

[Bloods86]

Does anyone else here eat shellfish?

Tbh, this isn't the gotcha that many think it is.

There is a difference in Christianity between laws and rules specified for the nation of Israel (as a theocracy in the Old Testament), that don't necessarily apply to Christians. Jesus argues with religious leaders for example about whether the strict conditions for the Sabbath still apply.

Now there's certainly some interesting rules in there, which beg some questions as to why they were needed.

But if you're trying to argue with a Christian (as opposed to someone who follows Judaism or say a Messianic Jew, who recognises Jesus as messiah), then sticking to instructions that are found in both the Old and New Testaments gives them no wriggle room if they try to dismiss it.

If you actually care that is, which is understandable if you don't.

 

[Satan]

Haha

 

[Frank Bunn]

A lot of 'interesting' passages in that book.

Ezekiel 23:20

There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

That's some damn fine prose! But like many passages in the OT it's metaphorical. The line refers to a woman Oholibah (Jerusalem) and her 'lust' for Egypt. The passage accuses Jerusalem of seeking alliances with pagan nations.

If Ezekiel were alive today he would probably consider the US as Israel's a long term lover with a donkey dick.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

If Ezekiel were alive today he would probably consider the US as Israel's a long term lover with a donkey dick.

 

[darrenmorgan]

TACO has flinched again...

 

[60 Yards Out]

TACO has flinched again...

Yep. The Art of the Backdown.

 

[Mofra]

Tbh, this isn't the gotcha that many think it is.

There is a difference in Christianity between laws and rules specified for the nation of Israel (as a theocracy in the Old Testament), that don't necessarily apply to Christians. Jesus argues with religious leaders for example about whether the strict conditions for the Sabbath still apply.

Now there's certainly some interesting rules in there, which beg some questions as to why they were needed.

But if you're trying to argue with a Christian (as opposed to someone who follows Judaism or say a Messianic Jew, who recognises Jesus as messiah), then sticking to instructions that are found in both the Old and New Testaments gives them no wriggle room if they try to dismiss it.

If you actually care that is, which is understandable if you don't.

Well, it actually is quite relevant when it is from the same book (Leviticus) that is used by theocrats to deny human beings their own personal freedoms (e.g. same sex marriage, thou shall not lie with a man etc etc).

If you want to pick periods to adhere and to discard, fine. But when people cherry pick from the same book to either deny the agency of others or ignore completely (e.g. Israel Folau - a man with tattoos - claiming to oppose homosexuality because of his religion) then it absolutely becomes relevant for discussion.

 

[Bloods86]

Well, it actually is quite relevant when it is from the same book (Leviticus) that is used by theocrats to deny human beings their own personal freedoms (e.g. same sex marriage, thou shall not lie with a man etc etc).

If you want to pick periods to adhere and to discard, fine. But when people cherry pick from the same book to either deny the agency of others or ignore completely (e.g. Israel Folau - a man with tattoos - claiming to oppose homosexuality because of his religion) then it absolutely becomes relevant for discussion.

Yeah sure, if they were to focus on those specific scriptures, but they would also be able to point to at least some consistency between the Old and New Testaments on that topic. Hence something that still applies, at least in moral judgements (but not prescriptive earthly consequence) outside of the former Israel.

Where it's really cherry picking is conservative Christians ignoring other consistent themes and instruction as I've mentioned, but focusing on this particular topic as a critical issue to enforce agendas on. And there is no call for theocracy in the New Testament, so there's that too.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Werewolf, EasternTiger, HitTheNailOnTheHead, Stokey great question, what do you guys think?

I have no idea why you tagged me. Trying to suggest I'm involved in this conspiracy you've cooked up or something. Kurve's too smart to fall for that troll attempt surely.

Ohhhh ... the usual suspects. lol

Hopefully you were joking here Kurve. You didn't take him seriously surely?