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Anti Gold Coast said:
The one Republican that really stood out from the campaign was Bobby Jindal. He'll be the next "Obama" and I really hope that he doesn't run in the next campaign (let Palin take the hit) and comes out in 8 years time. The man carries himself with poise, has great public speaking skills and looks like a future leader.
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I agree with all that and he is a prodigy no doubt, but who they run depends on Obama's performance. If he taxes the **** out of the middle-class, somehow pulls together the cash to fund his universa healthcare plans and builds a bunch of schools, they will run Huckabee or Palin and hope the right and Reagan Democrats come back. If he is truly FDR re-incarnated, they will run Jindal as Obama-lite in 4 years and bank that he can beat whoever else the Dems run in 8.
 
Anti Gold Coast said:
Obama's speech was absolutely incredible,
He'll unite the USA, and that'll hopefully help unite the world, arest the global financial crisis etc etc.
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Definitely a great speech. He'll try to unite the USA. So many really dont want to be swayed.

Great speech though. Hope they listen.
 
jozeph said:
Thanks for putting that speech up Giantroo, yep I teared up, and when I said thanks I meant it, I could've searched the net and found it but no you're the kind person who went to the effort and found it and posted it so thankyou again.:)
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No problems.:thumbsu:
 

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Chadwiko said:
He's always had that aura of inevitability about him, and i'm predicting the following;

Electoral College votes; Obama 338 McCain 200
Senate Seats: 57 Democrats 41 Republicans
House Seats: 250 Democrats 185 Republicans

Bookmark this thread. Let's see if I know my shit ;)
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I went pretty close! Extraordinary that the electoral college vote was even more for Obama than I predicted. I thought I was being overly optimistic!
 
Anti Gold Coast said:
But you'll always have people that vote against him, and Obama's transformation to capture some of the middle band of US states is quite incredible. People may have voted McCain, but if Obama can implement the stratagies that he's proposed, he'll breathe new life into the country.
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This will be an interesting one in how it's dealt with. Bush(snr) and his cronies have had financial interests in the prison system for decades.

Pot Wins in a Landslide: A Thundering Rejection of America's Longest War
By Rob Kampia, AlterNet. Posted November 5, 2008.

Voters dealt what may be a fatal blow to America's longest-running and least-discussed war -- the war on marijuana.

Voters Say Yes to Marijuana in Massachusetts and Michigan
Paul Armentano

California's Prop. 5 Could Change the Course of America's Drug War
Silja J.A. Talvi
CA's Prop 5: Treatment for Drug Addicts Works and Jail Time Doesn't -- Here Are the Stories to Prove It
Matthew Palevsky
Prop 5: California Has a Chance to Treat Young People Struggling with Drug Problems the Right Way
Marsha Rosenbaum
California's Big Chance to Stop Locking up Harmless Drug Offenders


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On Tuesday, largely under the radar of the pundits and political chattering classes, voters dealt what may be a fatal blow to America's longest-running and least-discussed war -- the war on marijuana.

Michigan voters made their state the 13th to allow the medical use of marijuana by a whopping 63 percent to 37 percent, the largest margin ever for a medical marijuana initiative. And by 65 percent to 35 percent, Massachusetts voters decriminalized the possession of up to an ounce of marijuana, replacing arrests, legal fees, court appearances, the possibility of jail and a lifelong criminal record with a $100 fine, much like a traffic ticket, that can be paid through the mail.

What makes these results so amazing is that they followed the most intensive anti-marijuana campaign by federal officials since the days of "Reefer Madness." Marijuana arrests have been setting all-time records year after year, reaching the point where one American is arrested on marijuana charges every 36 seconds.

More Americans are arrested each year for marijuana possession -- not sales or trafficking, just possession -- than for all violent crimes combined.
 
sherrinorburley said:
This will be an interesting one in how it's dealt with. Bush(snr) and his cronies have had financial interests in the prison system for decades.

Pot Wins in a Landslide: A Thundering Rejection of America's Longest War


On Tuesday, largely under the radar of the pundits and political chattering classes, voters dealt what may be a fatal blow to America's longest-running and least-discussed war -- the war on marijuana.

Michigan voters made their state the 13th to allow the medical use of marijuana by a whopping 63 percent to 37 percent, the largest margin ever for a medical marijuana initiative. And by 65 percent to 35 percent, Massachusetts voters decriminalized the possession of up to an ounce of marijuana, replacing arrests, legal fees, court appearances, the possibility of jail and a lifelong criminal record with a $100 fine, much like a traffic ticket, that can be paid through the mail.

What makes these results so amazing is that they followed the most intensive anti-marijuana campaign by federal officials since the days of "Reefer Madness." Marijuana arrests have been setting all-time records year after year, reaching the point where one American is arrested on marijuana charges every 36 seconds.

More Americans are arrested each year for marijuana possession -- not sales or trafficking, just possession -- than for all violent crimes combined.
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Another way to look at it. America have 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prison population.

Already inspiring, rapper Brother Ali has a song Mr.President(Your The Man) that reflect's the hope and joy that someone sensible is in charge, whether Obama has the key's, is another question.
 
fairdinkum said:
Obama or Bush, Israel will be the winner. :thumbsu:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_emanuel

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Hawkamania made a good point about this photo.

It is a bit like the cartoon situation, where the lead character has the devil sitting on his shoulder, giving him some 'advice'...
 
roobear said:
Just to clarify. The cool guy won, yeah?
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Not that it will make much difference, with the kkk/redneck's planning their revenge already. But yeah, the cooler of the two. How it was that close an election indicates the south mentality is instilled and hard to shake.
 

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Awesome map. Thanks for posting that.

Even McCain's own Arizona struggle to go red. Ouch. :o

It looks like Arkansas went red. If I ever go to the US, remind me to skip that part of the tour.

And Louisiana went red? Weren't they the ones who were left for dead by Bush after Katrina? :eek:

Remind me to skip that part of the tour, too...
 

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