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We are talking about the generally accepted definition of God - he is eternal. Why are you up in arms about that?

Because a baseless absurdity shouldn't be a basis for credibility.

"If the universe needs a cause why doesn't God?"

"Because God is eternal."

"How do you know God is eternal?"

"Because if he wasn't eternal then he wouldn't be able to create the universe!"

And around we go...
 
Why is he pathetic?

Seeing as you seem to be implying that your god would stop any and all violence at schools if they didn't teach things the contradicted the bible is pretty petty attitude for a god

I don't know eternal omnipotent being who wants to save humanity happy to let innocent children be slaughtered simply because the school there attending doesn't teach biblical studies.

This great and powerful being that supposedly created the entire ****ing universe, happy to let young children be gunned down when he could intervene without all that much effort at all.

Great ****ing role model right there. If you had the ability to stop someone being injured or hurt even though they didn't agree with you being a christian if you hand the foresight and ability to stop them walking out into the path of an oncoming car would you? Or would you, like your pathetic god stand there and let it happen simply because they disagree with you?
 
Mmmmm.

So you don't like a definition of a God who is eternal and that is separate to the the Universe he created?

Almost everyone I have ever met (you are the sole exception to date) has no problem with the definition of God as a maximally great being, and that one of his attributes is that he is eternal - when we talk about God, that is who we are talking about!

You don't have to believe in him, but there isn't much point arguing the toss of the coin about a definition of this God that no one else holds; esp. when you don't even think he exists!!:eek:

You are free to make up your own definitions of God, and not believe them. :rolleyes: But unless you can lift your the quality of your game Max, I won't be wasting my time talking to you about this again.
 

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Seeing as you seem to be implying that your god would stop any and all violence at schools if they didn't teach things the contradicted the bible is pretty petty attitude for a god

I don't know eternal omnipotent being who wants to save humanity happy to let innocent children be slaughtered simply because the school there attending doesn't teach biblical studies.

This great and powerful being that supposedly created the entire ******* universe, happy to let young children be gunned down when he could intervene without all that much effort at all.

You have made an incorrect assumption.

I wasn't implying that "God would stop any and all violence at schools if they didn't teach things the contradicted the bible" I was explaining the scripture passage, and the pointed irony of the tee-shirt, which is that people want to blame God for the bad stuff, but don't want anything to do with him either.

If you really want to learn about the intellectual problem of evil, I can provide you with links to various philosophical and theological sites dealing with that.
 
Mmmmm.

So you don't like a definition of a God who is eternal and that is separate to the the Universe he created?

Almost everyone I have ever met (you are the sole exception to date) has no problem with the definition of God as a maximally great being, and that one of his attributes is that he is eternal - when we talk about God, that is who we are talking about!

You don't have to believe in him, but there isn't much point arguing the toss of the coin about a definition of this God that no one else holds; esp. when you don't even think he exists!!:eek:

You are free to make up your own definitions of God, and not believe them. :rolleyes: But unless you can lift your the quality of your game Max, I won't be wasting my time talking to you about this again.

A logic fallacy is a logic fallacy no matter how many believe it.
 
Quelle domage.

Should that be Quel?

But don't worry skilts. Jesus will provide you with many opportunities to turn to him in genuine repentance. Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess, that Jesus is Lord. You'll get your chance one day. ;)

Who knows, you might even hear more gospel from me? :)
 
You have made an incorrect assumption.

I wasn't implying that "God would stop any and all violence at schools if they didn't teach things the contradicted the bible" I was explaining the scripture passage, and the pointed irony of the tee-shirt, which is that people want to blame God for the bad stuff, but don't want anything to do with him either.

If you really want to learn about the intellectual problem of evil, I can provide you with links to various philosophical and theological sites dealing with that.

Oh so your god wouldn't stop violence at schools even if they taught things consist with the bible, Carry on then.
 
Last time you checked, LMFAO... I've seen the sources that you consider valid.

Ok then great condescending one, WHOM do you consider to be valid? Are they only sources that you agree with? Who are you to disparage what
someone looks at because it does not fit in with your view of things? Why are your 'sources' any more valid than someone else's? IS your intellect on such
a higher plane than everyone else's that you are able to sit in judgement of them?
It's funny in our universalistic society that everyone should be a free thinker, and believe what they want to believe as long as they're not harming me etc etc (that old selfish chestnut again), unless you profess to be Christian which then in a wonderfully hypocritical and ironic twist of fate subjects you to more abuse, questioning your intellect, bitterness and so on from the very people that demand the free thinking society that we live in.
I guess it's ok to believe in anything then, as long as I believe it too?
 

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You are all class. :rolleyes:

So unlike your hero Lady Murdoch. What a shame. :(
Why thank you. I'm glad you're so chuffed about what I wrote about that arseh*le. I suppose it's better to call god an arseh*le than to assert that it doesn't exist. Be thankful for small mercies, eh? I only wrote it in an attempt to get on your good side. I'm yet to see it, but I'm sure there must be one.
 
Ok then great condescending one, WHOM do you consider to be valid? Are they only sources that you agree with? Who are you to disparage what
someone looks at because it does not fit in with your view of things? Why are your 'sources' any more valid than someone else's? IS your intellect on such
a higher plane than everyone else's that you are able to sit in judgement of them?
It's funny in our universalistic society that everyone should be a free thinker, and believe what they want to believe as long as they're not harming me etc etc (that old selfish chestnut again), unless you profess to be Christian which then in a wonderfully hypocritical and ironic twist of fate subjects you to more abuse, questioning your intellect, bitterness and so on from the very people that demand the free thinking society that we live in.
I guess it's ok to believe in anything then, as long as I believe it too?
You still don't get it, do you? Nobody gives a twopenny black **** what you or anybody else believes. Why should they?
 
Missed the point again Bloods. Keep trying - Jesus loves you.

No that's my point entirely, your god does nothing yet wants by your own admission for people to bow and serve him as if we are peasants.

Also as your a self admitted Protestant how can you claim Jesus loves me?

According to your beliefs Jesus was an aspect of god that after death rose to Heaven and rejoined the supreme being.

By this definition the entity known as Jesus ceased to exist the moment it merged back with the entity you call god. Until such time as the end of the world when the entity known as Jesus will once again be recreated and descend to earth to fight one last fight.

Right now Jesus doesn't exist, according to your interpretation of scripture.
 
You still don't get it, do you? Nobody gives a twopenny black **** what you or anybody else believes. Why should they?

If they didn't care, then why question it? Why go to such great lengths to humiliate or disprove?
Why abuse Christians for indoctrinating people or children, then under the guise of free thought,
indoctrinate kids into atheism? Double standards are at best amusing, but at worst frightening.
 
No that's my point entirely, your god does nothing yet wants by your own admission for people to bow and serve him as if we are peasants.

Also as your a self admitted Protestant how can you claim Jesus loves me?

According to your beliefs Jesus was an aspect of god that after death rose to Heaven and rejoined the supreme being.

By this definition the entity known as Jesus ceased to exist the moment it merged back with the entity you call god. Until such time as the end of the world when the entity known as Jesus will once again be recreated and descend to earth to fight one last fight.

Right now Jesus doesn't exist, according to your interpretation of scripture.


you seem to know a lot about scripture.
Sadly, in your hatred you have it all wrong.

Keep shouting it from the rooftops though!
 
If they didn't care, then why question it? Why go to such great lengths to humiliate or disprove?
Why abuse Christians for indoctrinating people or children, then under the guise of free thought,
indoctrinate kids into atheism? Double standards are at best amusing, but at worst frightening.
Because it's fun to play with the mentally impaired.
 

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Because it's fun to play with the mentally impaired.

ah, the superiority thing again. humble!

No mirrors in your house?
 
Yep. I guess that is the whole point.

Jesus was saying don't stop the little children coming to me, but the schools want to do just that, and have done just that in the States.
It's school, not a church. Some in the states claim their religion is under attack, but you can't be President if you are an atheist. What a crock.
 
you seem to know a lot about scripture.
Sadly, in your hatred you have it all wrong.

Keep shouting it from the rooftops though!

People like you make me feel sorry for blokes like C-first. I make a statement he doesn't agree with he highlights where he believes I'm wrong and addresses the fact, and vice versa.

You however attack me, a sure sign that you, yourself are unable to address the issue at hand.
 
No that's my point entirely, your god does nothing yet wants by your own admission for people to bow and serve him as if we are peasants.

Also as your a self admitted Protestant how can you claim Jesus loves me?

According to your beliefs Jesus was an aspect of god that after death rose to Heaven and rejoined the supreme being.

By this definition the entity known as Jesus ceased to exist the moment it merged back with the entity you call god. Until such time as the end of the world when the entity known as Jesus will once again be recreated and descend to earth to fight one last fight.

Right now Jesus doesn't exist, according to your interpretation of scripture.
You don't know what a protestant is, do you? Or what classical, orthodox Xianity teaches?
It is becoming clearer now - you have absolutely no idea what Xianity is!:eek:

Try this for a start - http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/articles/how-can-jesus-be-god-and-man
 

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