Play Nice USA President Donald Trump -Game On

[Firestarter]

Not really you are ascribing rape to only refugees. rape, unfortunately it is something that occurs irrelevant of race.

"Avoidable" violence also occurs regardless of race.

My point is the rhetoric espoused serves no purpose other than further driving a wedge between races.

This generation thinks we are more educated and evolved than generation past, it's more likely humanity has regressed


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Social media have proved that. More technology but worse regard for fellow mankind.

 

[ArjenTheGreat]

Instead he has appointed a white supremacist as his chief advisor and has seemingly nominated people for key roles based on how much money they have put into Republican party or who they know, creating a great situation where he campaigned that he wouldn't allow lobbyists into government then has appointed a whole bunch into important positions.

He's been in power two weeks and has already approved a woefully under-prepared rain into Yemen which cost human lives (and the Pentagon then released a ten-year old video to justify the raid - how good is that?!), implemented a ham-fisted border protection strategy which is both unlawful and has no real factual basis in terms of preventing terrorism, instead just f*cking over a whole bunch of innocent people, repealed acts designed to ensure proper background checks on people with mental health issues buying guns and financial advisors acting in the best interests of their clients (both acts could certainly have been improved but did not need to be removed - that is regressive as hell) and for some reason wants to start needling Iran on twitter.

It is blindly obvious his end game is to make as much money as he can (both for him and his associates) while in power, regardless of how it actually affects the people he is serving. No wonder he seems so chummy with Putin.

Branson's account of the first time he met Trump was very interesting, and painted Trump as what many seem to think: that he is a narcissist who is motivated entirely by self-interest, holds grudges and is very thin-skinned. That's a dangerous combination for someone in his position.

But hey, maybe my daughter will be raped by a Syrian. Or maybe by the Paris terrorist born in Egypt and raised in the UAE - which he was very quick to mention on twitter this morning, seemingly oblivious to the fact neither are on the list (which was Obama's list and Trump had to blindly use it without reviewing and adding any other countries apparently, creating a situation where citizens of countries that haven't killed anyone in terrorist attacks on US soil are being banned from US soil to prevent terrorist attacks). But then he didn't mention a mosque being shot up two days earlier by a white supremacist? Although of course that couldn't have been terrorism because Muslims were the target; it must have just been a "lone wolf".

I just hope he can prevent another Bowling Green massacre. I'll just judge him after that I guess.

Americans killing each other is not our problem, they have done it since the beginning of time and they will continue to do so long after you and I are gone.

But to suggest a whole bunch of already rich people who have given up $15m a year + to work for the government for free is just horseshit.

Thy have given up their salaries and are motivated probabky by ego, but certainly not greed, otherwise they would have stayed in their jobs.

Question, have you ever owned your business, then gone and worked for someone else?

Why the * would you do that?

Why would anyone motivated by greed work more for less, sorry, no money?

That is nonsensical ramblings of an otherwise super intellingent and well respected poster.

Life is more about who you know and blow, than what you know.... Donald hasn't made this the case, it was the case long before he got involved in this racquet and will be there long after he leaves.

As for your comment about the lone wolf? Until we start sending people with bombs in their backpacks to Mecca on the holiest of holies, then no one ought to feel anything. He was a lone wolf, he wasn't some part of the KKK claiming responsibility.

 

[ArjenTheGreat]

Not really you are ascribing rape to only refugees. rape, unfortunately it is something that occurs irrelevant of race.

"Avoidable" violence also occurs regardless of race.

My point is the rhetoric espoused serves no purpose other than further driving a wedge between races.

This generation thinks we are more educated and evolved than generation past, it's more likely humanity has regressed


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I don't disagree with this.

I have zero tolerance these days.

 

[dus]

25 years ago when i back packed Europe most people I met thought Australia was some sort of novelty backwater that was sooooo far away. I would get asked stupid q's about kangaroos in the streets, sharks at the beach etc. We were political nobodies on the international stage, we bothered no one, no one bothered us to put it simply. Then our dickhead politicians thought it would be cool to 'help out' our WWII allies with their 'problems' in the Middle East and Afghanistan. Mistake, we should have remained neutral, not get involved. What the **** were we doing sending our soldiers over there to basically protect American oil interests and to fight the start of a never ending idialogical war. The way things have turned out is that now we have basically put a target on our heads, we are America's little bitch and everyone knows it. As a consequence of the upheaval that has resulted because of our involvement in other people's wars, we are obligated whether we like it or not as 'international citizens' to mop up some of this mess now. Just my opinion but we should have just remained low key about Iraq and Afghanistan and carried on with a politically neutral stance without needing to get involved.

Absolutely.

 

[Devington]

I don't disagree with this.

I have zero tolerance these days.

I'm interested, what changed?

And what was an Arjen with tolerance like?

 

[Popeye10]

Funny that Trump immediately tweeted about this attack, yet no tweet for the terror attack in Canada.

It's hard keeping up with terrorists attacks these days

 

[tiltraise]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...to-apply-to-enter-the-united-states.html?_r=3


Why It Takes Two Years for
Syrian Refugees to Enter the U.S.

By HAEYOUN PARK and LARRY BUCHANAN NOV. 20, 2015

Syrians must pass many layers of security checks before being admitted to the United States, a process that can take two years or longer. In most cases, the refugees do not enter the United States until the very end. They are also subject to an additional layer of checks beyond those for refugees of other nationalities; after the Paris attacks, the House voted to further tighten screening procedures. Since 2011, the United States has admitted fewer than 2,000 Syrian refugees.

1. Registration with the United Nations.

2. Interview with the United Nations.

3. Refugee status granted by the United Nations.

4. Referral for resettlement in the United States.

The United Nations decides if the person fits the definition of a refugee and whether to refer the person to a country for resettlement. Only the most vulnerable are referred, accounting for fewer than 1 percent of refugees worldwide. Some people spend years waiting in refugee camps.

5. Interview with State Department contractors.


6. First background check.

7. Higher-level background check for some.

8. Another background check.

The refugee’s name is run through law enforcement and intelligence databases for terrorist or criminal history. Some go through a higher-level clearance before they can continue. A third background check was introduced in 2008 for Iraqis but has since been expanded to all refugees ages 14 to 65.

9. First fingerprint screening; photo taken.

10. Second fingerprint screening.

11. Third fingerprint screening.

The refugee’s fingerprints are screened against F.B.I. and Homeland Security databases, which contain watch list information and past immigration encounters, including if the refugee previously applied for a visa at a United States embassy. Fingerprints are also checked against those collected by the Defense Department during operations in Iraq.

12. Case reviewed at United States immigration headquarters.

13. Some cases referred for additional review.

Syrian applicants must undergo these two additional steps. Each is reviewed by a United States Citizenship and Immigration Services refugee specialist. Cases with “national security indicators” are given to the Homeland Security Department’s fraud detection unit.

14. Extensive, in-person interview with Homeland Security officer.

Most of the interviews with Syrians have been done in Jordan and Turkey.

15. Homeland Security approval is required.

If the House bill becomes law, the director of the F.B.I., the Homeland Security secretary and the director of national intelligence would be required to confirm that the applicant poses no threat.

16. Screening for contagious diseases.

17. Cultural orientation class.

18. Matched with an American resettlement agency.

19. Multi-agency security check before leaving for the United States.

Because of the long amount of time between the initial screening and departure, officials conduct a final check before the refugee leaves for the United States.

20. Final security check at an American airport.

Its interesting to note that Trump's exec order on immigration calls for his government to develop a uniform screening standard and procedure for all individuals seeking entry to the US.

Not sure how that would effect Aussies heading to the States but im thinking that perhaps ive made my last trip.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Americans killing each other is not our problem, they have done it since the beginning of time and they will continue to do so long after you and I are gone.

Which is what makes the focus on preventing Muslim-based terrorism while also crowing about second amendment rights such an amusing hypocrisy. Obama at least had the spine to call this out, even if he struggled to actually do much about it. Under Trump they are regressing back to the "I have a right to own guns, but Muslims will kill us so we need to ban them" rhetoric.

But to suggest a whole bunch of already rich people who have given up $15m a year + to work for the government for free is just horseshit.

Thy have given up their salaries and are motivated probabky by ego, but certainly not greed, otherwise they would have stayed in their jobs.

Question, have you ever owned your business, then gone and worked for someone else?

Why the **** would you do that?

Why would anyone motivated by greed work more for less, sorry, no money?

On the flip side, what makes you think people who have spent most of their lives in business and making money, and are likely motivated by making more money, are suddenly going to change their instincts now that they are in office? Exxon under Tillerson has a frightening track record of supporting regimes in Africa in the interests of oil and at the expense of human rights - and amazingly, he's now in charge of foreign affairs under Trump. I'm sure he'll just settle for his measly $200k salary and be proud to serve his country now.

Why has Trump only nominated around 30 people for senior positions when most presidents would nominate 500+? That feels like a CEO who is able to liaise and deal with other CEOs, but wouldn't have a clue how companies are run at middle and lower levels, and probably doesn't care as long as his own seat is cosy.

Also, why aren't his nominations going through OGE screening as is the standard practice to ensure no conflicts of interest?

That is nonsensical ramblings of an otherwise super intellingent and well respected poster.

Appreciate the kind words.

Life is more about who you know and blow, than what you know.... Donald hasn't made this the case, it was the case long before he got involved in this racquet and will be there long after he leaves.

I don't disagree with this.

As for your comment about the lone wolf? Until we start sending people with bombs in their backpacks to Mecca on the holiest of holies, then no one ought to feel anything. He was a lone wolf, he wasn't some part of the KKK claiming responsibility.

My point was it was still a terrorist attack, but as it doesn't fit in with the definition of terrorism that people like Trump want to perpetuate then you won't hear about it, or it will be dismissed as just some crazy fella. The guy in France was acting alone too.

 

[Firestarter]

Again with the name calling. Does that ever win a debate or are you just displaying an inferiority complex?

 

[Flawed Genius]

Be careful.

You'll upset the do-gooders.

The same types who no doubt were up in arms about the Melb street tragedy with dickhead immigrants who shouldn't have been here to start with.

But yep, Anti Trump etc, it fits the narrative for stupid people.

Which Melbourne street tragedy? Bourke Street? The attack perpetrated by a Greek-Australian born in Coober Pedy?

 

[Saintly35]

Which Melbourne street tragedy? Bourke Street? The attack perpetrated by a Greek-Australian born in Coober Pedy?

Yep. Them.

Last time i checked his surname is not Australian, these *wits have no business in our country.

I'd send them out Trump style, they bring nothing and enjoy everything.

 

[CrazyQ]

WTF, Arjen?

Apex? Are you seriously using them in some sort of example?

Apex are nobodys. They are, literally, 13-15 year old kids who runamok. I see these kids everyday, it's a beat up and I'm surprised you have fallen for the trap.

Absolute rubbish what the Sudanese community are being put through. It shows how ******* racist this country still is.

I've grown up in high rises and was there when the Sudanese refugees came here to settle.

One Sudanese kid I mentored was 13 when he arrived here. Seen his whole family slaughtered. Mother and sister raped, first.

He was a bright kid who started drinking heavily. Could have gone down that path but no, the dudes a lawyer and mentors me now.

Humans are leaving their homes because of war. Show some ******* emphathy.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Yep. Them.

Last time i checked his surname is not Australian, these *wits have no business in our country.

Mate. Really?

Nick Kyrgios: born in Canberra, plays under an Australian flag, with a Malaysian-Greek background.

Majak Daw: born in Sudan, plays under an Australian flag, for a club you love.

How about every single Chinese-Australian working at the cutting edge of business? How about Indian-Australian neurosurgeons working every day to save lives? How about every Sri Lankan-Australian nurse who looks after you when you go into an emergency department?

My last name is Dutch. Should I have any business in this country?

That is an extraordinarily narrow-minded and quite frankly disturbing world view you have got there. Anyone with a non-Anglo last name, regardless of if they're an Australian citizen, has no place in this country.

 

[CrazyQ]

Again on the news we hear that 3 Africans bash a 45 year old lady for being white, but your all right we must keep letting these ppl in we need to help them, some of you ppl should pull your heads out of your arses and just have a good look at what's happening to Australia

I see cops beating on 12 year old Africans for walking in groups of 3.

Won't see that on the news, though.

 

[Flawed Genius]

WTF, Arjen?

Apex? Are you seriously using them in some sort of example?

Apex are nobodys. They are, literally, 13-15 year old kids who runamok. I see these kids everyday, it's a beat up and I'm surprised you have fallen for the trap.

Absolute rubbish what the Sudanese community are being put through. It shows how ******* racist this country still is.

I've grown up in high rises and was there when the Sudanese refugees came here to settle.

One Sudanese kid I mentored was 13 when he arrived here. Seen his whole family slaughtered. Mother and sister raped, first.

He was a bright kid who started drinking heavily. Could have gone down that path but no, the dudes a lawyer and mentors me now.

Humans are leaving their homes because of war. Show some ******* emphathy.

Apex are a pack of kids who started out trying to one-up each other and show who had the bigger set of nuts. That remains all it is now.

 

[Firestarter]

Mate. Really?

Nick Kyrgios: born in Canberra, plays under an Australian flag, with a Malaysian-Greek background.

Majak Daw: born in Sudan, plays under an Australian flag, for a club you love.

How about every single Chinese-Australian working at the cutting edge of business? How about Indian-Australian neurosurgeons working every day to save lives? How about every Sri Lankan-Australian nurse who looks after you when you go into an emergency department?

My last name is Dutch. Should I have any business in this country?

That is an extraordinarily narrow-minded and quite frankly disturbing world view you have got there. Anyone with a non-Anglo last name, regardless of if they're an Australian citizen, has no place in this country.

Krakouer brothers?

Wait never mind. Got the gist of things and I need a better example.

 

[tiltraise]

Yep. Them.

Last time i checked his surname is not Australian, these *wits have no business in our country.

I'd send them out Trump style, they bring nothing and enjoy everything.

So your suggesting anyone of a non indigenous background be deported?

 

[CrazyQ]

Mate. Really?

Nick Kyrgios: born in Canberra, plays under an Australian flag, with a Malaysian-Greek background.

Majak Daw: born in Sudan, plays under an Australian flag, for a club you love.

How about every single Chinese-Australian working at the cutting edge of business? How about Indian-Australian neurosurgeons working every day to save lives? How about every Sri Lankan-Australian nurse who looks after you when you go into an emergency department?

My last name is Dutch. Should I have any business in this country?

That is an extraordinarily narrow-minded and quite frankly disturbing world view you have got there. Anyone with a non-Anglo last name, regardless of if they're an Australian citizen, has no place in this country.

Don't bother.

Absolute waste of time.

 

[Saintly35]

Mate. Really?

Nick Kyrgios: born in Canberra, plays under an Australian flag, with a Malaysian-Greek background.

Majak Daw: born in Sudan, plays under an Australian flag, for a club you love.

How about every single Chinese-Australian working at the cutting edge of business? How about Indian-Australian neurosurgeons working every day to save lives? How about every Sri Lankan-Australian nurse who looks after you when you go into an emergency department?

My last name is Dutch. Should I have any business in this country?

That is an extraordinarily narrow-minded and quite frankly disturbing world view you have got there. Anyone with a non-Anglo last name, regardless of if they're an Australian citizen, has no place in this country.

You use Kyrgios as suppoting your opinion. Wow.

If he wasn't smashing rackets as the dumb piece of s**t he is, i'm sure would hold a rifle against us.

Not an Australian whatsoever.

 

[Firestarter]

Oh hey. Peter Bell was born in South Korea to a SK mother and American father and adopted by Australians.

There we go.

 

[Flawed Genius]

You use Krygious as suppoting your opinion. Wow.

If he wasn't smashing rackets as the dumb piece of s**t he is, im sure would hold a rifle against us.

Putting aside how abhorrent your response is, how about refuting the rest of my post?

We shouldn't have drafted Cameron Zurhaar because he's got a Dutch last name?

Charlie Teo should've been deported as soon as he was old enough to buckle a seatbelt on a plane because he's got an Asian last name?

Every Greek-Australian or Lebanese-Australian who's ever wanted to come here and make something of themselves, open a fish and chip shop or a souvlaki van or whatever you want, should've been shut down by the health inspector and then summarily deported for having "opolous" on the end of their name?

When there's 50% of the nurses in the emergency department when you need treatment because you've deported every Devapalaratnam or Singh or Tran or Lee, and you get sicker and sicker because nurses are stretched and you die, you'll be fine with it?

You'd gut the entire country of any semblance of multiculturalism, which is your opinion and your right as an Australian to express, but my question is: why?

You'd "send out, Trump style", anyone with a name that isn't Smith or Hogan or Thomas or Thompson or Wright or Jones or Robinson, for what? How would that make your life any easier or better?

Just purely from a North perspective: no Hrovat, no Ziebell, no Daw, no Zurhaar, no Goldstein.

 

[giantroo]

It's hard keeping up with terrorists attacks these days

No issues making them up as they go. I.e 'Bowling green massacre'.

 

[Saintly35]

Putting aside how abhorrent your response is, how about refuting the rest of my post?

We shouldn't have drafted Cameron Zurhaar because he's got a Dutch last name?

Charlie Teo should've been deported as soon as he was old enough to buckle a seatbelt on a plane because he's got an Asian last name?

Every Greek-Australian or Lebanese-Australian who's ever wanted to come here and make something of themselves, open a fish and chip shop or a souvlaki van or whatever you want, should've been shut down by the health inspector and then summarily deported for having "opolous" on the end of their name?

When there's 50% of the nurses in the emergency department when you need treatment because you've deported every Devapalaratnam or Singh or Tran or Lee, and you get sicker and sicker because nurses are stretched and you die, you'll be fine with it?

You'd gut the entire country of any semblance of multiculturalism, which is your opinion and your right as an Australian to express, but my question is: why?

You'd "send out, Trump style", anyone with a name that isn't Smith or Hogan or Thomas or Thompson or Wright or Jones or Robinson, for what? How would that make your life any easier or better?

Just purely from a North perspective: no Hrovat, no Ziebell, no Daw, no Zurhaar, no Goldstein.

You're talking sensationlist rubbish.

Trump (apparently) attemping to stop the mexican problem of poorly paid people who want to sneak in for a "better life" is disgraceful and Illegal.

If we took these clowns on, I'd be equally ropable. Of course Trump doesnt want them, why would he?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

You're talking sensationlist rubbish.

Trump (apparently) attemping to stop the mexican problem of poorly paid people who want to sneak in for a "better life" is disgraceful and Illegal.

If we took these clowns on, I'd be equally ropable. Of course Trump doesnt want them, why would he?

You been drinking today, mate? Your posting has been atrocious.

 

[Le Grille]

You use Kyrgios as suppoting your opinion. Wow.

If he wasn't smashing rackets as the dumb piece of s**t he is, i'm sure would hold a rifle against us.

Not an Australian whatsoever.

Yeah bloody ethnics ay?

Cmon man you're trolling aren't you?


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