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BigBrainUSA

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Well it raises a lot of questions - Who are they and how generous are they, and are they Sydney based.
Their combined financial resources must be to put modestly -ok.
To actually even influence the Giants and the AFL to even discuss it is no mean effort.
Havent they heard of the USAFL -If I was on the USAFL board and reading this info some inquiries would be made to the Giants to make at least some contact.
However if the fixture goes ahead they (USAFL) will be involved anyhow.
My thoughts on the US Sports market are - It is extremely competitive and has a lot of media noise attached, and minor sports tend to get drowned out in that noise.

To answer some of these questions -- the Orange County Bombers recently reached a deal with GWS and became the Orange County Giants. This would explain some of the exposure and interest there. I know there is some back and forth between the leagues but I'm not sure how far it's gotten.

Marketing ability and power has changed in the 15 years since the last AFL exhibition was played and 30 years since the last game in a permanent structure was played. There is the chance to market to a wider audience and bring in more people. They have to be willing to spend the money to put themselves into that advertising market or else it will be an exercise in entropy.
 

RedV3x

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Dec 14, 2015
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Marketing ability and power has changed in the 15 years since the last AFL exhibition was played and 30 years since the last game in a permanent structure was played. There is the chance to market to a wider audience and bring in more people. They have to be willing to spend the money to put themselves into that advertising market or else it will be an exercise in entropy.

It's always a question of underwriting. The last exhibition in L.A. was a small affair organised in conjunction with Austrade.
 

TWLS

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Jul 19, 2015
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The Dockers will become the first WA Club to feature on US Network Fox Sports 1 in prime time with US Sports Leagues in shut down.
The game will be shown live at 8 pm this Saturday US West Coast time -July 4 2020 - and will be on 11pm US East Coast Time.
USAFL Brian Barrish said interest in the sport had been boosted since US Sports Shut Downs.
However of course a serious sustained push over there is needed in a super competitive sports enviroment.
 

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RedV3x

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The Dockers will become the first WA Club to feature on US Network Fox Sports 1 in prime time with US Sports Leagues in shut down.
The game will be shown live at 8 pm this Saturday US West Coast time -July 4 2020 - and will be on 11pm US East Coast Time.
USAFL Brian Barrish said interest in the sport had been boosted since US Sports Shut Downs.
However of course a serious sustained push over there is needed in a super competitive sports enviroment.

When cable was starting up and acquiring content it used Australian Football and that was very popular
and arguably the reason behind the rapid expansion of Australian Football in the U.S.A.
When Australian Football was replaced by the big American sports then growth slowed considerably.
Half an AFL season must produce some boost in the absence of competition
but it isn't an automatic flow-on. USAFL clubs have to be operating and receptive to the situation.
 

The_Wookie

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according to the USAFL’s Club list, the code had 2000 participants in 2021 and 49 clubs, while the US Association of Rugby League says it has about 700 participants.


Brian Barrish @BarrishUSAFL
13h

Replying to @JohnMKeynes1936 @footyindustryAU
Hi there. That figure of 2000 is correct, including a carnival in Texas where we had around 900 players, umpires, coaches, support staff, etc. The number includes players across the league who played during the year, as well as attendees of smaller sessions.


And just to clarify, that count of 900 are not one-offers. To play in that carnival you needed to have played three times during the regular season.
 

RedV3x

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The USAFL continue to confuse potential aspirants.

"It has elements of soccer, football, rugby, basketball, volleyball, and a mosh pit," said the USAFL's media manager, Brian Barrish.

Potential players look at that description and say "do I have to know/have played all those sports to be competent players?"

Soccer - the amount of soccering is an extremely small and usually a "last resort".
No hands, heading the ball, no tackling and offside make for this to be an extremely poor comparison.
American Football - has receivers for the completion, passing interference, kicking and punting.
Over the top tackling requiring padding would be a definite deterrent to many.
Rugby - has some kicking and lots of tackling.
the focus on tackling in defensive patterns and the ever present off-side make for a poor comparison.
Basketball - WTF, apart from the tip-off where's the similarity ?
bouncing the ball like in basketball is counter-productive.
Volleyball - WTF, apart from the serve where's the similarity.

The mosh pit ? -WTF easily the WORST description ever.
The AFL is still trying to mitigate the effets of those 1980s bill & bash videos.
Extremely counter-productive.

Guys, stick with a simple explanation- Australian Football is an unique, free-flowing game that consists of running, kicking, catching, hand-passing and sometimes blocking or tackling.
 

CrowdedHouse

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The USAFL continue to confuse potential aspirants.

"It has elements of soccer, football, rugby, basketball, volleyball, and a mosh pit," said the USAFL's media manager, Brian Barrish.

Potential players look at that description and say "do I have to know/have played all those sports to be competent players?"

Soccer - the amount of soccering is an extremely small and usually a "last resort".
No hands, heading the ball, no tackling and offside make for this to be an extremely poor comparison.
American Football - has receivers for the completion, passing interference, kicking and punting.
Over the top tackling requiring padding would be a definite deterrent to many.
Rugby - has some kicking and lots of tackling.
the focus on tackling in defensive patterns and the ever present off-side make for a poor comparison.
Basketball - WTF, apart from the tip-off where's the similarity ?
bouncing the ball like in basketball is counter-productive.
Volleyball - WTF, apart from the serve where's the similarity.

The mosh pit ? -WTF easily the WORST description ever.
The AFL is still trying to mitigate the effets of those 1980s bill & bash videos.
Extremely counter-productive.

Guys, stick with a simple explanation- Australian Football is an unique, free-flowing game that consists of running, kicking, catching, hand-passing and sometimes blocking or tackling.

Actually, the USAFL is better than your description!

The USAFL's gets a person unfamiliar with our sport to start to imagine what it looks like. It doesn't say it takes everything from the other sports, but elements.

Your generic description is vague. If you asked someone who has never seen our sport to come up with what they think our sport is based on your description, they could come up with Rugby, as all those elements you described are in rugby (people can confuse handpass with throw)
 

RedV3x

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It doesn't say it takes everything from the other sports, but elements.

What elements ?

Your generic description is vague.

On purpose, because no other game is similar to Australian Football except Gaelic Football.
That's the big point you have to get across- it's NOTHING like rugby.

My description is of the elements of the game - first level.
Second level is a description of the game - namely, the aim of the game is to move the ball by kicking, catching, running and hand-passing to get within range of scoring a goal by kicking the ball between two tall posts.

Then you add more detail.
Like you will find elements of Australian Football in other sports so playing Australian Football will benefit you as a cross-trainer.

Then you add more detail.
Australian Football is usually played on a large oval, with 18 players per team on the field ......
 

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