VAFA D1 new thread for 2007

[Anthony43]

Anybody interested in a coaching job out at Bundoora for the season 08. I'm on the selection committee and am very open to any applications! You couldn't do much worse than the pricks that have been in charge of the rable the lat couple of seasons.

Parade - 2010 D4 Premiers

"Finally, some success!"

 

[Jascave]

Since when was the last time Andrew Demetriou attended a grassroots footy game? Maybe he and the rest of the AFL Commission should take the time to get away from the AFL finals series to go and watch the last two weeks of D1 finals, to appreciate what local footy is all about.

 

[crownies2]

I can't still work out how can one guy originally get 2 weeks, goes to appeal, gets his sentence overtuned, yet the other player gets 4 weeks by the same investigations committee? If you think the AFL tribunal/appeals procedure is strange, the VAFA version is bizarre. I guess both versions are being run by Andrew Demetriou and Adrian Anderson.

You and Uncle Mick are absolute tools.... The original case was heard by an Investigation Panel not the Tribunal....
Clubs have always been able to appeal decisions made by an Investigation Panel.....
Oakleigh were obviously aware of this and thus lodged an appeal submitting new evidence supported by photographs and other witnessess.
It was heard by 4 executive members thus making a quorum and those guys made their decisions based on what was presented to them....
Jascave you think you are such a guru about all things VAFA at least get your facts right before you post anything...

 

[Jascave]

Maybe during the summer, the VAFA could set up a VAFA Appeals sub-committee, chaired by the either the VAFA Executive Chairman or chairman of the Football Department, flanked by two legal representatives in readiness for 2008, who would hear new evidence based from players from both clubs, umpires, video or photos presented to them by the suspended player's club. I know that have this at VCFL, VFL, AFL level, but the VAFA don't have this process in place.

 

[Concrete boots]

Since when was the last time Andrew Demetriou attended a grassroots footy game? Maybe he and the rest of the AFL Commission should take the time to get away from the AFL finals series to go and watch the last two weeks of D1 finals, to appreciate what local footy is all about.

Better yet - they should've attended the MSJFL U9's GF - it was a cracker!!!

 

[Uncle Mick]

You and Uncle Mick are absolute tools.... The original case was heard by an Investigation Panel not the Tribunal....
Clubs have always been able to appeal decisions made by an Investigation Panel.....
Oakleigh were obviously aware of this and thus lodged an appeal submitting new evidence supported by photographs and other witnessess.
It was heard by 4 executive members thus making a quorum and those guys made their decisions based on what was presented to them....
Jascave you think you are such a guru about all things VAFA at least get your facts right before you post anything...

Careful there crownies. Easy to shoot off your mouth from behind a keyboard. I stated the tribunal isn't my forte. I was led to believe the investigation held last week proceeded into a tribunal hearing once the witnesses had given their accounts of the incident. The only tools I would suggest are those backdooring the system. One can only conclude that the individual responsible owned up to it after hearing his mate copped 2 weeks, Oakleigh have stitched up one of their own to allow a regular senior player to take part in the Grand Final, or the more recent suspension is a player who may have sustained an injury on the weekend.
I find it quite laughable to hear video stills introduced as evidence, yet they weren't prepared to show the running footage. For mine, I think the tribunal were satisfied someone would be held accountable and acted accordingly. I find it very interesting that a more regular reserve grade footballer was left with the suspension. This could well be coincidence and good luck to Oakleigh. Their aim was to get McKenzie off and that they did.

 

[Boris the blade]

Maybe during the summer, the VAFA could set up a VAFA Appeals sub-committee, chaired by the either the VAFA Executive Chairman or chairman of the Football Department, flanked by two legal representatives in readiness for 2008, who would hear new evidence based from players from both clubs, umpires, video or photos presented to them by the suspended player's club. I know that have this at VCFL, VFL, AFL level, but the VAFA don't have this process in place.

From an outsider's viewpoint I'd suggest that introducing things such as pleading guilty and taking the mandatory 2 weeks etc, the VAFA actually want to simplify it and not have appeals and all that.

Who takes photos of punch-ons away??

 

[harvey35]

If the bloke did it and owned up I say good on him for having the balls. Would of been a lot easier to say nothing and let a possibly innocent bloke take the wrap and miss a GF.

Careful there crownies. Easy to shoot off your mouth from behind a keyboard. I stated the tribunal isn't my forte. I was led to believe the investigation held last week proceeded into a tribunal hearing once the witnesses had given their accounts of the incident. The only tools I would suggest are those backdooring the system. One can only conclude that the individual responsible owned up to it after hearing his mate copped 2 weeks, Oakleigh have stitched up one of their own to allow a regular senior player to take part in the Grand Final, or the more recent suspension is a player who may have sustained an injury on the weekend.
I find it quite laughable to hear video stills introduced as evidence, yet they weren't prepared to show the running footage. For mine, I think the tribunal were satisfied someone would be held accountable and acted accordingly. I find it very interesting that a more regular reserve grade footballer was left with the suspension. This could well be coincidence and good luck to Oakleigh. Their aim was to get McKenzie off and that they did.

 

[Jascave]

I think the reason why the VAFA might want to look at having an appeals system introduced for 2008 (or sometime in the future) is to avoid the '2000 Beaumaris court case' scenario, which I've outlined before in one of my posts on this forum. The last thing the VAFA would want to have on their hands is a club-any club, no matter what section it's in-taking the VAFA to court over an tribunal or investigation result, which could do some damage to the PR image of the VAFA and the club in general, especially if it happened on the eve of a finals game or a grand final. And how would the VAFA feel if the judge of the court case handed down the decision if favour of the club and the suspended player-what would the AFL, and AFL Victoria in general, and the AFL media think about the VAFA?

 

[PAMagpies]

TP14,
You are obviously the only person left reading this thread that doesn't know "Uncle Mick" is in fact (posting as) "Dermott Cleary" in a vain attempt to either obtain some psychological advantage or to have his reputation tarnished..

Mick,

Don't talk about being 'Tough behind a keyboard" as you post under someone else's name.

 

[Uncle Mick]

TP14,
You are obviously the only person left reading this thread that doesn't know "Uncle Mick" is in fact (posting as) "Dermott Cleary" in a vain attempt to either obtain some psychological advantage or to have his reputation tarnished..

Mick,

Don't talk about being 'Tough behind a keyboard" as you post under someone else's name.

I believe the comment was "shoot your mouth off" not "tough" moron. You are the only blatant d1ckhead on this thread if you believe that I'm using Dermott Cleary as an alias.

Harvey - whilst a noble act, I find it hard to believe this to be the case. Interesting to note that Chapple was named best on the VAFA website for the 2nd semi final.

 

[BrianSpeaking]

Terrific year by Paul Greenham at the Two Blues, well done Greeny.
Heard about a punch on between some Oakleigh lads and OMs fathers last Sunday at Sandy, anyone fill in the details? Heard it was alchohol fuelled in the social club during the game.

 

[crownies2]

Terrific year by Paul Greenham at the Two Blues, well done Greeny.
Heard about a punch on between some Oakleigh lads and OMs fathers last Sunday at Sandy, anyone fill in the details? Heard it was alchohol fuelled in the social club during the game.

Absolute total and utter rubbish....Nothing like that happened at all and I was in the bar all afternoon....
Get better sources Brian and stop stirring up shit as usual...

 

[Scribe]

OK kiddies - most of you won't have your mitts on an Amateur Footballer by 2pm Saturday, so for those who were interested, here's my TOTY.

Go ahead - rip in boys!!!

Cheers

Fraser

Backs: Keith Biggs (OMs) Gary Carr (HR) Thomas Waters (BT)

Half-backs: Daniel Zula (OAK) Gerrard Woods (HR) Mark Peitryk (BT)

Centres: Adam Sleight (PRA) Leigh Fletcher (HR) Anton Duddy (HR)

Half-Fwds: Nick Casboult (OGGs) Chris Branigan (OGGs) Gerard Bevan (PRA)

Fwds: James Keem (YV) Matthew Lawrence (HR) Jesse Prowse (OMs)

Rucks: Nick Claringbold (Pen) Michael Bentham (OAK) Michael Harold (OAK)

Interchange: Corey Bannister (Therry), Thomas Rees (Pen), Trevor Bromley (OAK), Matthew Harrison (PRA), Alastair Tehan (BT), Gareth Snow (OMs)

Coach: David Gately (OAK)

 

[BrianSpeaking]

Absolute total and utter rubbish....Nothing like that happened at all and I was in the bar all afternoon....
Get better sources Brian and stop stirring up shit as usual...

Tommy, it happened half way through the last quarter and was observed by some well know Ammo brass.

 

[Uncle Mick]

How does B2 get the full forward position? He's a second stringer!!

Would say all Rovers players chosen are worthy of their spot, but a little out of position there Fraser. Whilst the others are close enough, The Big Dud on a wing is one that gets a good chuckle. Had a good year, but you'd just have to see him play to know he's not your winger type. The Franchise (Robbie Alexander) very stiff to miss out. Arguably the best footballer in D1.

 

[Jascave]

Scribe, why was Dermott Cleary (OAK), Mark Vicker-Wills (OG), Andre Pitts (PRA), not in your team? How many games in D1 did you watch this year? Your D1 TOTY is a bit like the AFL All Australian line-up; players picked out of position, controversial selections. Now you can see why the D1 TOTY should be picked by the VAFA state selectors. If that D1 team played a rep match against Sth Australia, the D1 side would be 10 goals down at half time and sinking further & further into the mire.

 

[kingbrown]

Scribe, why was Dermott Cleary (OAK), Mark Vicker-Wills (OG), Andre Pitts (PRA), not in your team? How many games in D1 did you watch this year?

Your still brilliant Jas, Go Rovers, Scribe was assistant coach for Fitzroy Reds this year in what turned out to be quite tumultuous. Would not have seen a game unless he left after the reserves games which i am positive he didn't.

 

[Scribe]

Scribe, why was Dermott Cleary (OAK), Mark Vicker-Wills (OG), Andre Pitts (PRA), not in your team? How many games in D1 did you watch this year? Your D1 TOTY is a bit like the AFL All Australian line-up; players picked out of position, controversial selections. Now you can see why the D1 TOTY should be picked by the VAFA state selectors. If that D1 team played a rep match against Sth Australia, the D1 side would be 10 goals down at half time and sinking further & further into the mire.

Jase - thanks for your input, in answer to your queries,

1. Dermott missed out in favor of Bromley (very close call)

2. the Hyphen was about 6th in line re: full-forwards, and I figured Keem (YV) and Bannister (Therry) performed brilliantly up forward for 2 very ordinary sides. Frankly uglydermie would've been just as close as Vickers-Wills.

3. As far as I heard, Pitts didn't have as consistent a season as the other 3 Prahran lads

4. Every Saturday afternoon I play for Fitzroy Reds (sen/res) and coach their reserves, so in answer to your next question, I saw zero D1 games all year (the week off for C section I played for our Clubbies to help them try to make finals). NB: Mick - I thought Duddy was a big lad - but was hoping he might be a fleet footed big lad!

5. You will never get the State selectors to pick a D1 side - they wouldn't have heard of more than 6 blokes in the entire D1 competition. The best chance you have is if you offer them an all expenses paid trip to SA or Country Vic with an open bar tab, then they may seem interested

6. Controversial selections = more discussion, and based on what I've pointed out in 4, its obvious some guys would be out of position. C'est la vie. That's what it's all about, everyone's entitled to their opinion and you've given yours which is great.

7. Finally, if there ever is a D1 side which plays South Australia's SAAFL 4 th Division (which is the SAAFL equivalent of d!) this side would romp it in!!! Sadly, there's a better chance of Uncle Mick winning the D section B&F than there ever being a D1 rep team.

Cheers and good luck on the weekend

Frase

 

[Jascave]

At least the D1 team you've picked Fraser, would have some chance of beating Richmond, based on the Tigers' form this year. I wonder, who'll get the jobs on Richo, Brown, Tuck, Deledio, Pattison, Schulz etc? Some of the Richmond players better pull their fingers out in '08, or else.....

 

[silky_skills]

Hello Scribe,

Touriganis & Cherbakof (think I spelt those correctly) from BT must have been close to getting a guernsey?

Also, IMO, Waters may be better suited to a key position if not in the Ruck.

That's my 2 cents
Silky

 

[Brenton Holt #10]

I'd say Leigh Fletcher will poll very very well for the Rovers, Snow from OM's, Pietryk from BT and Rutter and Bromley from Oakleigh.

Not too bad an effort scribe, although Robbie Alexander would be the standout to miss. Gotta say I prefered JasCave squad the best although he lost my vote once he named his final 22!!!

For what it's worth

1. L. Fletcher
2. M. Pietryk
3. T. Bromley

Rovers in a close one

 

[Uncle Mick]

Gee, Jase. You hold no punches there mate. Seems like a fairly reasonable side to me. Thought Rutter was the best of Oakleigh's on-ball brigade, but again, that's based on 2 games of 18.

Frase - Duddy will tell you he's fleet footed. Hardly the case though. However he is the reigning Whitehaven Beach Sprint champ down at Roverland.
After seeing Cleary's antics post-incident that led to the tribunal investigation, he doesn't deserve to be recognised with any sort of distinction. Deriding a player who has had his faced smashed and is in the hands of 2 trainers is quite pathetic. Might have to use that in my posting under his name PAMagpies..?? Idiot!
Zampaglione(B1) was also another surprise omission. Pretty sure he had between 30-40 goals for the year as a small forward.
And what's this about support acts winning the D section B&F? Where do I sign up???

Holty - you're a goose. We spoke last night about Danny Andersen receiving the letter from the VAFA, so he'd have to go in as the early favourite from Rovers. Be hard pressed to see him win it though.

 

[uglydermie]

Tom Waters from BT was invited. Had a good year BUT Mark Peitrik will win our B&F by plenty. We have 3 voters each week giving 5,4,3,2,1. Mark would have polled in every game he played (17) and scored many 5's.

 

[Jenny Voss]

Tom Waters from BT was invited. Had a good year BUT Mark Peitrik will win our B&F by plenty. We have 3 voters each week giving 5,4,3,2,1. Mark would have polled in every game he played (17) and scored many 5's.

That's and excerwent system ugwydermie. We have that at the Rovers. My Camwern will make anover beautiful powerpoint presentation for the count. I think there's a handful of our boys who have a very good chance. Ooo, I'm getting all jittery just thinking about the boys having a chance to get back up to c grade tomorrow. Then we can take on those nasty boys from Oakleigh again.