VAFA General Discussion 2022-2023-2024

[Chief]

Hi all.

Aucklander and I have had a couple of runs through recent posts in this thread and removed a few unsavoury comments.

The usual griping and gossip is par for the course, but some posts go overboard.

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[Max Leader]

Max once boasted of knowing the great man's mobile number, so.............

Still have the number. He is a couple of years younger than me. Went to Kaniva Consolidated Primary School together with his brothers and sister. I went to his 21st, where the Battle of Britain was front and centre of all speeches.

Kaniva also produced the great Roger Merret and Glen Hawker. Not bad for a town of 500 (750 during shearing season).

In 1999 I offered him the coaching role at Old Ivanhoe. He politely turned it down. His loss. Imagine what he would have learned at OI. He would probably be a 6 times AFL Premiership coach.

Max "867 5309" Leader

 

[adhoc]

Still have the number. He is a couple of years younger than me. Went to Kaniva Consolidated Primary School together with his brothers and sister. I went to his 21st, where the Battle of Britain was front and centre of all speeches.

Kaniva also produced the great Roger Merret and Glen Hawker. Not bad for a town of 500 (750 during shearing season).

In 1999 I offered him the coaching role at Old Ivanhoe. He politely turned it down. His loss. Imagine what he would have learned at OI. He would probably be a 6 times AFL Premiership coach.

Max "867 5309" Leader

Love your work Max, can believe the great man knocked your offer back! How’s ol mate Gary Hawker going?


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[Max Leader]

Love your work Max, can believe the great man knocked your offer back! How’s ol mate Gary Hawker going?


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Glenn

 

[adhoc]

Glenn

Gary Hawker is 1st cousin to Glenn and from Kaniva.
He is 6"1 or 2, stronger bigger build than Glenn and is either 50 or there abouts.

I'll name drop now as I had beers at blokes day with him and Wayne Carey, and Corey Mckernan. As a rover, I looked liker a dwarf against those boys.

 

[10571z]

Another club gone from the VAFA.

My mail was Parade had a vote about a potential future move to the NFNL league, not sure of the result.

 

[FWIW]

Another club gone from the VAFA.

My mail was Parade had a vote about a potential future move to the NFNL league, not sure of the result.

FWIW becoming closer and closer to a 5 division league by the day.....

 

[10571z]

FWIW becoming closer and closer to a 5 division league by the day.....

More and more clubs will pack up. Especially with clubs dropping off in other leagues they’ll target clubs to replace them

 

[Doug Hogan 23]

FWIW becoming closer and closer to a 5 division league by the day.....

We have 7 sections.

 

[Max Leader]

More and more clubs will pack up. Especially with clubs dropping off in other leagues they’ll target clubs to replace them

What makes other competitions cheaper than the VAFA. Going to have to start paying players. Beer sales isn't going to cover that cost.

Don't give me this travel rubbish. 9 times a year you have to get out of your bubble and see the sights of Melbourne.

The only real successful team (i could be wrong) who left the Ammo's is Banyule, and that is on the back of an amazing junior club and one or two sponsors who have helped out with good recruiting. They wouldn't have beaten Willy or AJAX, so they haven't got "that" much stronger.

I can't name too many other teams that have left and have won a premiership or have flourished.

Its tough for all teams, even the High a Mighty's struggle to raise the money to run a club successfully.

 

[10571z]

What makes other competitions cheaper than the VAFA. Going to have to start paying players. Beer sales isn't going to cover that cost.

Don't give me this travel rubbish. 9 times a year you have to get out of your bubble and see the sights of Melbourne.

The only real successful team (i could be wrong) who left the Ammo's is Banyule, and that is on the back of an amazing junior club and one or two sponsors who have helped out with good recruiting. They wouldn't have beaten Willy or AJAX, so they haven't got "that" much stronger.

I can't name too many other teams that have left and have won a premiership or have flourished.

Its tough for all teams, even the High a Mighty's struggle to raise the money to run a club successfully.

I don’t really think it’s the fact of cheaper..I think their are many things that annoy people about the VAFA.

- Umpires (lack of)
-Alcohol restrictions
-Limited local rivalry especially in lower divisions compared to playing teams close to you.
-VAFA Support and Fees for what you pay is poor

 

[Over The Post]

Point Cook is doing pretty well in the WRFL, primarily as they have become a juniors powerhouse that brings a lot of cash into the club so they can afford the coin for senior players.

 

[Jimmyjack]

Another club gone from the VAFA.

My mail was Parade had a vote about a potential future move to the NFNL league, not sure of the result.

Let’s be honest, they are no great loss. In their 10 or so years in the VAFA I reckon SFX have both gone into recess and dropped back to clubbies, perhaps more than once. And I’m sure clubs in the lower grades are really going to miss travelling out to Beaconsfield.

Good luck to them. Hope they find some consistency in the SFL.

VAFA is far form perfect but when you look at what's happening in the Outer East FL and the SFL, I reckon the VAFA is travelling ok by comparison.

 

[Seemyhat]

I don’t really think it’s the fact of cheaper..I think their are many things that annoy people about the VAFA.

- Umpires (lack of)
-Alcohol restrictions
-Limited local rivalry especially in lower divisions compared to playing teams close to you.
-VAFA Support and Fees for what you pay is poor

The VAFA affiliation fees are high when you consider it like that.
The clubs leaving are more for geographical reasons than not being able to afford VAFA fees. Banyule was surrounded by paying clubs who poached their juniors so moving to NFL was a better fit.

 

[10571z]

Let’s be honest, they are no great loss. In their 10 or so years in the VAFA I reckon SFX have both gone into recess and dropped back to clubbies, perhaps more than once. And I’m sure clubs in the lower grades are really going to miss travelling out to Beaconsfield.

Good luck to them. Hope they find some consistency in the SFL.

VAFA is far form perfect but when you look at what's happening in the Outer East FL and the SFL, I reckon the VAFA is travelling ok by comparison.

AFL outer east is 1 year in not really worth judging.

 

[Jimmyjack]

AFL outer east is 1 year in not really worth judging.

True and over time it should even itself out but it’s a bloody shambles at the moment. Huge growth suburbs playing against small country towns and clubs already trying to jump ship. Actually would have thought OEFL would have been a better fit for SFX the SFL.

 

[oldtimer]

What makes other competitions cheaper than the VAFA. Going to have to start paying players. Beer sales isn't going to cover that cost.

Don't give me this travel rubbish. 9 times a year you have to get out of your bubble and see the sights of Melbourne.

The only real successful team (i could be wrong) who left the Ammo's is Banyule, and that is on the back of an amazing junior club and one or two sponsors who have helped out with good recruiting. They wouldn't have beaten Willy or AJAX, so they haven't got "that" much stronger.

I can't name too many other teams that have left and have won a premiership or have flourished.

Its tough for all teams, even the High a Mighty's struggle to raise the money to run a club successfully.

rupertswood, bentleigh and Werribee districts have also been successful since leaving VAFA

 

[Max Leader]

rupertswood, bentleigh and Werribee districts have also been successful since leaving VAFA

Concede all have been solid citizens in their new comps. Both Rupo and Werribee were doing OK in VAFA. Travel would have been a real issue for these teams.

 

[Dales14]

Thanks for the laugh fellas

 

[bedford]

rupertswood, bentleigh and Werribee districts have also been successful since leaving VAFA

What have Bentleigh done.

 

[The Quite Man]

Hawthorn & Balwyn are former VAFA clubs that have been fairly successful

 

[Jimmyjack]

Hawthorn & Balwyn are former VAFA clubs that have been fairly successful

Balwyn? They were SEFL then SLF then EFL. If they were ever in the VAFA it was mid last century.

 

[AM]

Balwyn? They were SEFL then SLF then EFL. If they were ever in the VAFA it was mid last century.

Wikipedia can't always be trusted JJ but this seems accurate from my limited knowledge. From a VAFA viewpoint they are a stealthy lot.

 

[Over The Post]

VAFA pundits have very, very long memories.

 

[Jimmyjack]

Wikipedia can't always be trusted JJ but this seems accurate from my limited knowledge. From a VAFA viewpoint they are a stealthy lot.

Yep. As I said must have been mid last century !

 

[workhorse]

rupertswood, bentleigh and Werribee districts have also been successful since leaving VAFA

You could argue that Old Eltham Collegians have benefited greatly from their move last year, but I understand it's only been a year and time will tell.

From what I know from Old Paradians, it’s not a matter of if, but when. May not be in the next couple of years but they will eventually move to the Northern league unless something changes drastically. There’s a lot of ex-Parade blokes running around for cash in the NFNL