VAFA General Discussion

[bedford]

FWIW new vafa president creating a big footy account and the Herald Sun doing a write up on Div1-Div4 recruits, what other nuggets does 2024 have in store? Bedford as the new mod?

Happy to accept fwiw

 

[eth-dog]

SMS won a flag and now get to seriously compete for another one, whats the loss? spare me the "we want to compete at the highest level" bs, you play local football to compete to win flags and have fun and they will doing both next season if this goes ahead

Thanks for telling us how we're supposed to feel.

 

[Champ or Chump]

Some good points but you cannot force players to play anywhere they dont want to. 3rds is for guys who want a easy no nonsense game of football usually at 9.20am.

I feel like 2 x U19 2 x thirds teams is enough for anyone though. But the vafa won't stop anyone from playing so I doubt they will limit it

Side note to similar conversations around multiple teams.

I have been told that the YJFL are implementing limitations on number of sides clubs can field in age groups as 'super clubs' are developing - that have money, play in higher Divisons and are well resourced - are attracting/chasing all the talented players and as such other junior clubs are struggling to fill teams - whilst others might have 4 teams from the same club at the same age level.

 

[God Yeah]

I see this as a line in the sand for the vafa. If they truely care about the bottom teams as much as this decision appears they do this decision alone is just a bandaid for a couple of years until the next group of uncompetitive teams come along.

It's time to limit the amount of thirds and under 19s teams the premier teams have. It's no suprise that 10-15 years ago most clubs had 1 u19 team and maybe 1 3rds team. The growth of the 3rds competition has seen a steady slow decline in what was D/3 and D/4 and as well as clubs moving to other competitions.

If the vafa want to make these decisions that effect the divisions like this and stop teams from promotion as well as relegating clubs who don't deserve to be relegated for the betterment of the competition that's fine.

But also make some decisions to help them grow. The make up of the division 3 comp that they are proposing is surrounded by Xav's de la scotch at st Kevin's and probably more who all have multiple 19s and multiple 3rds teams. The vafa need to limit these teams. If clubs picked up 2 or 3 players each from some of those clubs it would improve there culture both on and off field. Also blokes may get motivated and love playing at 2:00.

I would love to see vafa make some decisions like the above that may hurt premier divisions and help the lower ones.

I believe there is some good people at the vafa that want the best for everyone. I applaud them for that.

At least they are trying something.

De La have had 2 x U/19 and a 3rds/Warriors for close to 40 years.

This isn't a new thing.

Restricting the amount of teams isn't going to make players play for a club they have no affiliation with, they will simply stop playing.

 

[pazza]

Ben Austin, who umpired his first season with us this year and finished with the Premier Reserves grand final - tragically passed away a few weeks ago in a cricket training accident.

His funeral is at the Citipower Centre (Junction Oval) tomorrow from 11am.

 

[JimmyR20]

This has to be one of the most common sense decisions I've seen from the VAFA ever.

On limiting teams, I don't believe clubs should be limited.

Perhaps though, premier A clubs shouldn't be able to enter a side in the lower divisions of thirds and 19s. If that means they have to play multiple teams in one grade then so be it.

 

[bedford]

This has to be one of the most common sense decisions I've seen from the VAFA ever.

On limiting teams, I don't believe clubs should be limited.

Perhaps though, premier A clubs shouldn't be able to enter a side in the lower divisions of thirds and 19s. If that means they have to play multiple teams in one grade then so be it.

Has your mob found a coach as yet Jimmy

 

[Jimmyjack]

De La have had 2 x U/19 and a 3rds/Warriors for close to 40 years.

This isn't a new thing.

Restricting the amount of teams isn't going to make players play for a club they have no affiliation with, they will simply stop playing.

DLS have only ever had one 3rds team and at times sustaining that has been a struggle. I agree that restricting the number of teams is challenging and many will just give the game away. However OX having (I think) 5 x 3rds teams while nearby clubs battle to field seniors and reserves in taking the p155.

 

[bedford]

DLS have only ever had one 3rds team and at times sustaining that has been a struggle. I agree that restricting the number of teams is challenging and many will just give the game away. However OX having (I think) 5 x 3rds teams while nearby clubs battle to field seniors and reserves in taking the p155.

That's where it has to be stopped , 2 max in each

 

[MortlockWatcher]

If clubs have more than two Thirds teams, then those third, fourth and fifth teams, etc. should be put in their own division with no ladders and no flag on offer. It will stop the Hooray Henry's hiding in Z grade and hunting easy multiple premiership medals for framing and displaying in their man caves and making others think they were a decorated gun footballer.

 

[TheCanvas69]

If clubs have more than two Thirds teams, then those third, fourth and fifth teams, etc. should be put in their own division with no ladders and no flag on offer. It will stop the Hooray Henry's hiding in Z grade and hunting easy multiple premiership medals for framing and displaying in their man caves and making others think they were a decorated gun footballer.

Or just normal promotion relegation.
If OX have 5 teams in top div of thirds comp so be it.

 

[andoman21]

Or just normal promotion relegation.
If OX have 5 teams in top div of thirds comp so be it.

They only won one thirds flag despite having 5 teams

 

[JimmyR20]

Has your mob found a coach as yet Jimmy

Stay tuned.

I'm personally excited by the transition.

Good to have a coach who will be of a club first mindset.

 

[JimmyR20]

Should be announced today

 

[Hammerjudd]

Any updates on the divisions?

 

[rattlesnakes71]

Any updates on the divisions?

Clubs meeting tonight. My best bet VAFA has decided on it already just doing this to tick the box.

 

[localfootylegend23]

Clubs meeting tonight. My best bet VAFA has decided on it already just doing this to tick the box.

Unless clubs can find someone to swap with them up or down I reckon the leaked pic is final.

 

[God Yeah]

Unless clubs can find someone to swap with them up or down I reckon the leaked pic is final.

I'd say it depends more on Swinburne and Masala.

 

[patrickb29796]

Any updates on the divisions meeting last night?

 

[Dodgyrox]

Any updates on the divisions meeting last

Last I heard clubs in higher divisions were not happy about having Div 4, anyone got any updates on that?

 

[pazza]

I note that the Womens Premier and Womens Premier B have been sorted out.

 

[bedford]

I note that the Womens Premier and Womens Premier B have been sorted out.

I see the combine girls have finally been promoted and have a reserves , interesting where they will get the new players from

 

[Jascave]

Seeing that the VAFA AGM is on Thursday 11 December, what will be the topics that could lead to a heated discussion between VAFA Board members and club representatives?

One topic that could be up for discussion would the VAFA's preoccupation with the Big V Centenary celebrations (ie big dinner celebrating the occasion) when there was still a game of football to be played against Western Australia. The VAFA thought a win over WA was a mere formality, only to be totally embarrassed seeing WA score a fine win over the VAFA at Elsternwick Park earlier this year. If the VAFA loses to South Australia in Adelaide next year, questions will now have to asked about the VAFA's standing as the pre-eminent amateur football competition in Australia.

 

[pazza]

I see the combine girls have finally been promoted and have a reserves , interesting where they will get the new players from

I know the sports program at McKinnon Secondary is very strong. We have a number of their students in the umpiring ranks.

 

[pazza]

Seeing that the VAFA AGM is on Thursday 11 December, what will be the topics that could lead to a heated discussion between VAFA Board members and club representatives?

One topic that could be up for discussion would the VAFA's preoccupation with the Big V Centenary celebrations (ie big dinner celebrating the occasion) when there was still a game of football to be played against Western Australia. The VAFA thought a win over WA was a mere formality, only to be totally embarrassed seeing WA score a fine win over the VAFA at Elsternwick Park earlier this year. If the VAFA loses to South Australia in Adelaide next year, questions will now have to asked about the VAFA's standing as the pre-eminent amateur football competition in Australia.

A big topic is what HQ will do to support the Umpires Association in their own centenary next year.

 

[God Yeah]

Seeing that the VAFA AGM is on Thursday 11 December, what will be the topics that could lead to a heated discussion between VAFA Board members and club representatives?

One topic that could be up for discussion would the VAFA's preoccupation with the Big V Centenary celebrations (ie big dinner celebrating the occasion) when there was still a game of football to be played against Western Australia. The VAFA thought a win over WA was a mere formality, only to be totally embarrassed seeing WA score a fine win over the VAFA at Elsternwick Park earlier this year. If the VAFA loses to South Australia in Adelaide next year, questions will now have to asked about the VAFA's standing as the pre-eminent amateur football competition in Australia.

I'd have thought the dire position HQ has left divisional football in would be a little higher than a rep dinner on the agenda.

VAFA HQ have an interesting 12-36 months on their hands.

A focus needs to be placed on the geography of the competition (existing and future), what standing does the VAFA hold in the local footy landscape and where does it want to be positioned. The previously aggressive focus on the expansion and growth plans to the detriment of existing member clubs.