Vale Malcolm Fraser

[Todman]

IIRC he was a Carlton man.

 

[sherb]

IIRC he was a Carlton man.

Yep, and was the No 1 ticket holder.

 

[Subprime]

I can remember placards that spelt Fraser's name with a swastika instead of an 's'.

I guess the people who made them bemoaned how the conservative side had lurched to the right while they wistfully thought of Stanley Melbourne Bruce or some such leader from yesteryear.

 

[Gough]

Was he the last of the Menzies era cabinet ministers?

 

[Tulip]

In some ways, he was a better person than he was a politician in the end. He will be missed.
It will be interesting to see how the Liberal Party deals with this- he wasn't one of them in the end.

Touching press release by Turnbull, as you would expect. Not sure what the rest of them will do.

Politics is a tough world, but Fraser knew it and navigated it very well.

Rest well.

 

[Slax]

Touching press release by Turnbull, as you would expect. Not sure what the rest of them will do.

Politics is a tough world, but Fraser knew it and navigated it very well.

Rest well.

Turnbull would be the only senior current Liberal MP who Fraser would've had faith in to actually lead.

I heard Fraser a couple of years back on a panel and was asked about what it takes to be a good political leader.

Leading in government is very different to leading in opposition. When in opposition you lead by pointing out the weaknesses of the government and their leader, the focus is never on you as the same way it is on the government. In government you lead by identifying your weaknesses, acknowledge them, but focus on your strengths, you can no longer focus on the opposition but instead on yourself as the public is looking to you to lead.

You will never have a strong government without having a strong leader.

 

[swingdog]

IIRC he was a Carlton man.

Okay, for that he can be abused.

 

[Danny Cullen]

So funny all the lefties mourning a Liberal PM. RIP small 'l' Malcolm. A good PM in his day.

 

[kirky]

So funny all the lefties mourning a Liberal PM. RIP small 'l' Malcolm. A good PM in his day.

Well that's probably because he mellowed and was a liberal not a conservative as he got older.

 

[Lebbo73]

RIP Mr Fraser

 

[Danny Cullen]

Well that's probably because he mellowed and was a liberal not a conservative as he got older.

If Mr Fraser wasn't courted by the media outlets that these people use as their source of choice you wouldn't see the plattitudes.

Funny thing is, I voted for Hawke in '83, 'give Bob the job' and all that.

Again, RIP.

 

[Maggie5]

In a speech paying tribute to Fraser's strong anti-Howard stand on humanitarian issues, Whitlam said: "Malcolm Fraser has now replaced me as Public Enemy Number One in the demonology of the Australian right wing. I must say I am much more relaxed about being supplanted by Malcolm Fraser for a second time than I was the first time".

It is perhaps one of history's uncanny symmetries. Whitlam and Fraser: locked together in mortal political combat, unified in their mutual humanity post-politics, and now sadly, both gone.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...alcolm-fraser-dead-at-84-20150320-1m3nsx.html

 

[pazza]

Aside from saying rest in peace, I would point everyone over to Paul Keating's statement on him.

 

[The Speaker]

Maybe there really is no Malcolm without Gough.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Bolt will never be remembered as anything more than a skid mark on this country's underwear.

I wish he'd suffer in our jocks. Hmmm, need more 'curry nights' in the week methinks...

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

(In much the same way as Republicans from Regan's era do with the current Republican movement)

Wasn't Reagan himself the c*ntbag who invited the Moral Majority into politics?

 

[NSWCROW]

Sigh.... Here we go again....

As it was with Gough Whitlam, this is a thread for tributes. It you can't leave your politcial bias at the door, don't post.

The man has just passed away. Show some respect.

I assume you're referring to my pic ??

 

[Nikita Blue]

Lets not forget what a leader he was in the fight against apartheid and also was a shining example of the days when refugee and aboriginal issues were non partisan and not used in wedge politics.

 

[Nankervis brothers]

Overview below on Fraser's achievements as PM, running through SBS, Aboriginal Land Rights, Apartheid, Human Rights Commission, Government Integrity, Environmental Reform, etc.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...lcolm-fraser-did-for-you-20150320-1m3vpi.html

Vale Fraser.

FWIW. He never 'moved to the left' or 'mellowed', on the contrary, his Party moved to the right. He is the barometer of exactly how far to the Right the Liberal Party has moved.

 

[Contra Mundum]

Whitlam, Fraser, and Uren inside a year. Curtain really is being drawn on an era of Australian politics.
Vale.

Never going to see the likes of them again. Think of the fookwits in Parliament now!

 

[Contra Mundum]

The only PM that I knew on a personal level.

Will Robert Mugabe be at the state funeral?

What you preferred White Rhodesia? - when he started he was regarded as a saviour. Given your naive and nuance lacking views I assume you are too young to remember the charming regime of Ian Smith he replaced

 

[Xsess]

I’m sorry he has died and feel for his family. I can honestly say I never understood him.

 

[romeoh]

A decent person with a humane and informed view of world issues. Had a lot of time for him after he left politics and allowed his real values to emerge.Vale.

 

[Slax]

Wasn't Reagan himself the c*ntbag who invited the Moral Majority into politics?

Regan was arguably the last President who was willing to sit down with the opposition party to nut out a way to get legislation passed. Now USA and Australian politics mirror each other in that opposition parties "Just say No"

 

[Slax]

FWIW. He never 'moved to the left' or 'mellowed', on the contrary, his Party moved to the right. He is the barometer of exactly how far to the Right the Liberal Party has moved.

Personally don't think that his politics really changed much from when he was in office until today, it's just that whilst he remained constant everyone else was heading to the right.