Roast Vanilla

[tesseract]

Love Vanilla. Don't know why it's used as an insult to a player.

I don't believe calling a player "vanilla" is an insult. I think it be descriptive; in that a player called vanilla lacks x-factor and/or stand out qualities. There are probably more reasons to use it, but that's the gist of it. I'll continue to use the term where I deem applicable.

 

[Piss Poor]

Vanilla should actually be a compliment as it has flavour. If a player was plain and boring the term should be like having original flavoured chips. There plain as ****.

Actually really Vanilla is one of the best flavours,

Strawberry is the worst, ever buy a tub of ice cream with the three flavours of chocolate Vanilla and Strawberry,

Strawberry is always left last and most of the time not even touched.

 

[Ian Dargie]

Just as good as 'scythe'.

Tell it again.

 

[Ian Dargie]

I thought the use of vanilla was in the context of being ordinary and nothing special.

i.e a player who has no redeeming skills or performs at an average standard.

There are are already adjectives to describe that kind of player. Ordinary. Average. Mediocre. Not good enough.

How does adding an ambiguous flavour reference refine the description?

It's up there with describing players as 'Pendlebury types' or 'the next Pendlebury' for dumbshit football parlance.

Sometimes I think two thirds of the population must have a little bit of brain damage. Not a serious amount. They can still drive a car and repeat something they read in the paper that morning. But in terms of evaluating a stupid statement and explaining why it's stupid, that capacity is shot.

 

[Marlin01]

The flavour they pass off as banana in milkshakes and icecream and that sort of thing is the worst IMO. It doesn't taste anything like a banana to me, just an artificially created mess.

 

[Jarlcorbz]

Best ice cream ever.

 

[Piss Poor]

This is what our seasons come to hey, how times have changed, we should be talking about finals and premierships this time of the year and instead were all talking about ice cream flavours.

we have officially hit rock bottom folks.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Actually really Vanilla is one of the best flavours,

Strawberry is the worst, ever buy a tub of ice cream with the three flavours of chocolate Vanilla and Strawberry,

Strawberry is always left last and most of the time not even touched.

Vanilla is the finest of the flavours according to the Barenaked Ladies.

Strawberry's actually my favourite of the big three.

To each his own I guess.

 

[Spooky17]

S'mores ice-cream... amazing:

 

[Masto]

Nothing wrong with it. It's a word that's been used throughout the industry for a long time. It only becomes a problem on this board due to the low level of intelligence among many posters.

 

[Mr Eagle]

Damn it, didn't think of Vanilla Coke.

The greatest* drink known to man.

You're the worst.

 

[Falco]

There are are already adjectives to describe that kind of player. Ordinary. Average. Mediocre. Not good enough.

How does adding an ambiguous flavour reference refine the description?

It's up there with describing players as 'Pendlebury types' or 'the next Pendlebury' for dumbshit football parlance.

Sometimes I think two thirds of the population must have a little bit of brain damage. Not a serious amount. They can still drive car and repeat something they read in the paper that morning. But in terms of evaluating a stupid statement and explaining why it's stupid, that capacity is shot.

I guess that people feel that describing a player or team as 'vanilla' encapsulates more than one of those adjectives that you mentioned in one word. Perhaps that gives them a sense of ownership, conversely it could be the Australian drive to shorten everything to do with language to give convenience.

Never assume that people are intelligent, the shit that happens in the world confirms that all the time.

 

[pantskyle]

Saw the thread title and thought it was a thread about me as a poster, was ready to report the **** out of it.

 

[Falco]

Saw the thread title and thought it was a thread about me as a poster, was ready to report the **** out of it.

Vanilla pants?

 

[mick06]

i thought it was a racist term to describe the white bois on our list. Maginness and ellis would be strawberry however

 

[Ian Dargie]

Nothing wrong with it. It's a word that's been used throughout the industry for a long time.

Just because it's common, doesn't mean it's not stupid.

Other stupid words/phrases that should be banned include usage, plethora, physicality and the utterly meaningless conjunction 'as to'. I also roll my eyes when I hear people say a player 'hunts the footy'.

 

[Ian Dargie]

I guess that people feel that describing a player or team as 'vanilla' encapsulates more than one of those adjectives that you mentioned in one word.

How?

Perhaps that gives them a sense of ownership, conversely it could be the Australian drive to shorten everything to do with language to give convenience.

Ownership? How?

And it's not shortening anything. If anything, it's adding a wanky false nuance to try to sound more insightful.

 

[QS]

And it's not shortening anything. If anything, it's adding a wanky false nuance to try to sound more insightful.

I surmise you are a choc chip cookie dough man, Gunnar.

 

[Falco]

How?

Because they can use 'vanilla' instead of having to use other words (ordinary, boring, plain...) to get their point across.

Ownership? How?

And it's not shortening anything. If anything, it's adding a wanky false nuance to try to sound more insightful.

Perhaps people see 'vanilla' as a uniquely football term that they can use in the football context. Maybe it is a wanky nuance in your view, but I dont mind it. It doesnt bother me.

 

[Ian Dargie]

Because they can use 'vanilla' instead of having to use other words (ordinary, boring, plain...) to get their point across.

Wanky false nuance.

Furthermore, there are a ton of great players who could be described as 'vanilla'. What about someone like Simon Black or Sam Mitchell?

What is this obsession with snazzy bullshit?

Perhaps people see 'vanilla' as a uniquely football term that they can use in the football context.

What does this even mean?

The whole point is that it's not a uniquely football term. It refers to the flavour of ice cream. That's why it is stupid.

There is an inherent silliness in taking something routine and commonplace and appropriating a stupid new name for it.

 

[Falco]

Wanky false nuance.

Furthermore, there are a ton of great players who could be described as 'vanilla'. What about someone like Simon Black or Sam Mitchell?

What is this obsession with snazzy bullshit?

What does this even mean?

The whole point is that it's not a uniquely football term. It refers to the flavour of ice cream. That's why it is stupid.

There is an inherent silliness in taking something routine and commonplace and appropriating a stupid new name for it.

As tesseract said earlier, calling someone vanilla doesnt mean you're saying that they're a poor player, it just means that they don't have x-factor, stand-out qualities or exceptional ability in one area. Black and Mitchell are fantastic players in their own right, I'm not arguing with you here.

Whether you or I like it or not, vanilla has taken on a greater meaning than just a flavour of something. New names for things are how languages are developed over time. Its clearly your opinion that its stupid, but other people don't share your point of view.

 

[Bender_]

Best ice cream ever.

Pffft:

 

[BartBart]

This thread is so vanilla

 

[Ian Dargie]

As tesseract said earlier, calling someone vanilla doesnt mean you're saying that they're a poor player.

Clearly there is a pejorative element. It's never used as a compliment, is it?

Have you ever heard anything celebrated or praised for being 'vanilla'?

Whether you or I like it or not, vanilla has taken on a greater meaning than just a flavour of something.

I know what it's intended to mean. The point is that it adds nothing – people just like the sound of it because they think it makes them sound more observant and cutting-edge. Like when people started talking about HBFs as "quarterbacks". Stupid, pretentious bullshit.

What's wrong with the existing vocabulary?

New names for things are how languages are developed over time.

Oh, please. Spare me the cookie-cutter etymology lesson. Did you read that on the back of a cornflakes box?

Languages develop over hundreds of years through migration, changes in social structure and the advent of technology. A voguishly stupid way of talking about footballers isn't 'developing the language'.

 

[Oxirane]

I think people use 'Vanilla' to describe a players attributes, not their ability to perform at AFL level.

Reminds me of an analogy used in Hajime no Ippo, where competitors are likened to rocks getting sifted out; Large rocks will stay, pointy ones can hang on, but well rounded ones that are to small will fall through.