Roast Varcoe

[Duskfire]

He needs to find form before Byrnes gets back or he could come under pressure. The limited preseason is hurting, is avoiding body contact. I am still a believer.

Exactly.

When we talk about dropping players, we dont mean permanently. But sometimes a stint in the reserves does help alot. If Varcoe continues to be in lacklustre form when Brynes is ready, he should at least get a couple of weeks rest and let Brynes do his thing. Its not a bad thing; alot of people on here seem to take it personally when others suggest dropping a player.

 

[CF]

I am for dropping him as I have been noticing his lack of application over the last 3-4 games, not just last night. Although last night was his worst performance this year. I think that dropping him to the two's is a good option to remind him of what is expected from him. Just because we are 7-0 doesn't mean we should go easy on players we expect more from, and it doesn't mean every player is beyond criticism. If we are to challenge for the flag we need to continue to improve and the truth is Travis is in the bottom 6 of the 22 at present with his form/attitude. With players in the VFL pushing for selection he could soon find himself being left behind.

 

[kanyewest]

Embarrassing thread. Varcoe did some good things and some bad things like a lot of players last night. The handball to Chapman was poor but the run through the middle was positive. The kick off the ground was a bad decision but understandable after sprinting 100m after your OWN ball. He is human. And young. And learning.

I just had a look and saw we have already endured a Varcoe roast thread this year. In fact, it was only a month ago, also by started by vinum coupe. Can someone lock this in the same way. Please make it stop!

 

[Duskfire]

Varcoe has been like this for several games now so this is not a new thing. I think that dropping him to the two's is a good option to remind him of what is expected from him. Just because we are 7-0 doesn't mean we should go easy on players we expect more from, and it doesn't mean every player is beyond criticism. If we are to challenge for the flag we need to continue to improve and the truth is Travis is in the bottom 6 of the 22 at present with his form/attitude.

Perfectly said.

To win the Flag this year certain players need to improve. Varcoe is one of those players who toward the end of last season really looked like stepping up but has thus far fallen back a bit.

 

[bobbycatsfanme]

another bull**** thread started by a bull**** supporter! He says Geelong will get smashed again by Collingwood only to have them shove it in his face and now wants one of our sparks in that revival to be dropped because he does not put in a 4 quarter effort. Vinum tell me this, does Alan Didak put in a 4 or even 3 quarter effort? Does Cyril Riloi play 4 quarters of consistent footy? Some players are in the team to do certain roles and Varcoe is never going to be a Gary Ablett jnr (I'm glad he's not either) but to have this player who ooooodles exceptional freakish talent dropped to the reserves is just crazy and only puts the club at risk against quality opposition. About time you really start showing respect to the club and it's players buddy

(I know I should have hold back because you have some loyal friends in here who will bag me regardless but mate, you need to look at the bloody scoreboard and AFL ladder)

 

[CF]

Embarrassing thread. Varcoe did some good things and some bad things like a lot of players last night. The handball to Chapman was poor but the run through the middle was positive. The kick off the ground was a bad decision but understandable after sprinting 100m after your OWN ball. He is human. And young. And learning.

I just had a look and saw we have already endured a Varcoe roast thread this year. In fact, it was only a month ago, also by started by vinum coupe. Can someone lock this in the same way. Please make it stop!

The fact that his poor performances have been noted earlier should be telling you something. I think Travis has the potential to be an elite midfielder but he needs to put more effort into it if he wants to achieve that. The reason people are saying he should be dropped because we are hoping it will give him the kick in the pants he needs to push himself to be the best he can be. At the moment he is looking as soft as butter out there.

 

[Partridge]

Partiridge, you seriously want to see Varcoe go out of this side as you suggest from that previous comment? He's one of our most gifted and exciting young players and a player that has so much upside playing in a great team where every single player is getting exposed and analyzed like non of the other 12-14 teams. Varcoe is only gonna get better and he nearly pulled off that soccer macth with Davis but the ball went to Stokes who couldn't quite get it back to him.

Yes, to answer your question I do. As others have pointed out (not just me), even if you were happy with the role he's playing, he has to provide a hell of a lot more run, and he needs to apply tackles correctly. He's picked up a really bad habit of running around a player, applying half a tackle and falling over. He did it again last night against Pendlebury who he had cold. That was after being beaten one-on-one by Leon Davis too.

It continues to amaze me, it's ok for Mackie and Josh Hunt to be dropped (and both were), but Varcoe is untouchable? I thought selection should be based on merit.

This isn't a move to sack him, or send him to the reserves for 12 weeks, but one week sure. Wake him up. He isn't working enough, and needs to do more.

 

[darren forssman]

He had 12 possessions 0 marks and 3 tackles.

To have 0 marks is ridiculous, the guy has good pace and should be presenting a lot more.

maybe he does but is just not used, just like when steamy j kicked to a bartel/obrien one on one instead of dishing a handball to a free wojak who had a paddock to run in the 3rd.

or when harry kicked to a corey/blair one on one instead of the logical shorter free player in the 4th.

and people going on about the handball to chapman, there was nothing ahead to kick to and who knows if chappy called for it.

that said, he was very average.

 

[God Mode]

Exactly. Laughable thread.

The thread is a total joke. I had to check and see it wasn't from a few years ago when Varcoe had first started. After playing so well last year and the first part of this year. One game gone bad and everyone is calling for is head. If he plays well next week, there will be a "Toast" Varcoe thread, with no doubt the same OP saying "Always thought he was great." Most negative posters should take a measured approach to analyzing a players game and not let emotions fly.

 

[vinum coupe]

Embarrassing thread.

I just had a look and saw we have already endured a Varcoe roast thread this year. In fact, it was only a month ago, also by started by vinum coupe. Can someone lock this in the same way. Please make it stop!

I was the one who PM'd the mod to lock that thread !
It was a disappointment thread rather than a roast.

But I am now sick of the 'gliding' So it's proper roast time.

Also, if you look up the thread 'who do you like to watch the most' where nearly everyone took Gaz. I took Varcoe. I love him, but he is pissing me off. Maybe if you had of read that other roast thread you would have noticed over the past month that it was spot on !

 

[kanyewest]

The fact that his poor performances have been noted earlier should be telling you something.

Yes, it tells me some Geelong supporters have no idea.

Anyone that has been at the games would notice that his work rate has been high. Even last night, the goal he kicked, when that play started he was in the back half. He is running and running and running. I think of the Hawthorn game when he ran from the forward line to the back line to the forward line - and finished it off with a goal.

Also, if you look up the thread 'who do you like to watch the most' where nearly everyone took Gaz. I took Varcoe. I love him, but he is pissing me off. Maybe if you had of read that other roast thread you would have noticed over the past month that it was spot on !

But just because you love a player doesn't mean he suddenly has to dominate games every week and is deserving of blame anymore than the next guy. Maybe part of the problem is you have built up and image of Varcoe that is different from reality. He is still young and learning the game. He gives us pace and plays a role. Just have some patience and enjoy the win!

 

[rocker_oz33]

people calling for monty to come in for trav..ok then there will be drop monty thread..varcoe needs to do more l'm sure he and the coaching staff know this.

 

[The rabbi]

Burn him at the stake.

He is just one of the reasons that we are 7---zip at the moment.
It simply cannot continue
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[vinum coupe]

Anyone that has been at the games would notice that his work rate has been high.

Yep. I completely agree. He has been running his butt off.
Maybe we should sub in Tamsyn Lewis.

He isn't providing blocks, and he is avoiding tackles.
It's not like he isn't getting into the game. He had players cold last night and did jack.

If that was Stokes there would be blood shed on this forum today.

 

[JUBJUB]

another bull**** thread started by a bull**** supporter!

Calm down princess,a lot of people agree with vinum.Just because you don't doesn't mean it's wrong.This isn't China you know.

 

[vinum coupe]

Jub. I have him on ignore. Did you really have to quote him so I had the chance to read his crap?

 

[darren forssman]

It's not like he isn't getting into the game. He had players cold last night and did jack.

expand?

 

[bobbycatsfanme]

JUBJUB because of this fools thread, supporters start talking at games and it can become a bigger issue than what it should be. You called me a princess now that's so harsh mate, I tell ya if I was an AFL player I'd get the AFL to fine you bigtime on a comment like that
Try another one in Vinum's next bashing thread




(vinum, glad to see you prefer to hide away than face critiscm on the chin! You must be a brave mate whenever friends get into troubles on a night out)

 

[vinum coupe]

expand?

Well he is getting to the contests. Lots of them. But when he gets there he has no impact. Someone needs to cut a video of the critical moments when he had the ability to stop the pies attacking. And he did not commit to the contest.

In other words, he isn't lost on the ground or anything. He just has no intent to get the ball off the opposition.

 

[TheHonestyPolicy]

Well he is getting to the contests. Lots of them. But when he gets there he has no impact. Someone needs to cut a video of the critical moments when he had the ability to stop the pies attacking. And he did not commit to the contest.

In other words, he isn't lost on the ground or anything. He just has no intent to get the ball off the opposition.

Why dont you cut the video yourself mate? You seem to have the time.

Brereton alluded on a Sunday footy show recently Varcoe's role to stay on his feet and mobile outside was invaluable to Geelong and their season's chances. I might take his view point over yours.

He laid three tackles last night. Dispossessing your opponent tackling surely? Maybe Geelong winning and not getting clouted by 8-10 goals like you expertly forecast has got you rattled mate. Take it on the chin. Dont turn poor old Trav into your little scape goat. Go play with some lego maybe?? Go for a drive in your car.

 

[vinum coupe]

*sigh*


Someone point me in the direction of where I can get all of our games.
I'll put together a montage of great efforts for you.

But you're not going to want to watch it.





And quoting Brereton now. Good lord.

 

[TheHonestyPolicy]

While you're at it, lets see a montage of you playing?

Anyone have the video of Travs 3 tackles last night?

I'll put one together of Brereton too. The guy is completely not my style is the nice way to put it, but I'll take his view point over yours any day.

By the way, you lose money or something mate? 8-10 goals out is a mile.

 

[jimmy.h]

Our team isn't good enough yet and the same guys continue to produce crap week after week. Hawkins and Varcoe

In the two games before tonight, Varoce was our equal highest poller in the AFLCA player of the year award (he polled 4 in rd 5 and 6 in rd 7, Selwood polled 5 and 5) and was one of only three players to poll in both games.

This suggests that Varoce was either doing something to impress Scott or was doing something to make the opposition coaches think he was impacting the game. Either way I'm not sure that is compatible with a player who 'prodcues crap week after week'.

There are a number of players at the club who seem to have every good thing they do completely ignored by their detractors. Varoce was crap last night and is deserving of criticism for that. But he wasn't crap against North and he wasn't crap against Hawthorn.

 

[jimmy.h]

I'll put one together of Brereton too. The guy is completely not my style is the nice way to put it, but I'll take his view point over yours any day.

Brereton, when he wants to be, is actually not too bad a football analyst. If he put his ego to the side and took the whole thing seriously he would be better than most.

The fact he is a Hawthorn person and has an difficult personality means he won't get taken seriously very often.

 

[kanyewest]

Yep. I completely agree. He has been running his butt off.
Maybe we should sub in Tamsyn Lewis.

He isn't providing blocks, and he is avoiding tackles.
It's not like he isn't getting into the game. He had players cold last night and did jack.

Haha, it gets more embarrassing! That's you problem? He's not providing blocks and avoiding tackles. Well in that case, we may as well drop Chappy too, because I know he missed a few last night. And while we're at it, we should look at trying to get McQualter from St Kilda for next year. I heard he is a great pressure player. Can't kick if his life depended on it...but he always blocks.

Just stop. Varcoe's role at the moment is on the outside. He is our man that uses his pace to break away from the congestion. He's not trying to be a Max Rooke tackling machine that takes everyone on with or without the ball. Although, I do remember his tackle on Goldsack, and I would say it would have been one of the hardest of the night. As TheHonestyPolicy pointed out too, he had three tackles, more than a number of other Geelong players.

jimmy.h, great idea with the AFLCA numbers. Sadly I do not think it will satisfy vinum coupe. You see, Varcoe is his favourite player to watch, and whenever he doesn't live up to his dreams, he comes on here and starts a roast thread calling for his head.