You are looking to the wrong place, what is being said is Darcy is so good that he is more effective than Lobb playing forward by a fair way and Meek is way better than Lobb in the ruck. We have looked best as a team when we had that structure however it was against pretty bad teams.
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I disagree, posters are in love with this weird setup that would have us playing 2 genuine rucks, a forward ruck and a tall forward. Pushing our clear best ruck forward to play a guy that has had maybe 1.5 good/decent games of AFL. Lets not forget Darcy has kicked multiple goals once in his entire career so the idea he is some saviour up forward and a clear upgrade on Lobb is also severely misguided.
Vent over. I look forward to the IN: Meek calls all week.
How come he gets stamped as he can’t do this or can’t do that after 4 games
He might be a good AFL ruckman and having 2 genuine rucks and a couple of talks gives us an edge
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He's not stamped. Every chance he gets a lot better. I am talking about his level right now and based on what I saw, that is my assessment.
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Nah, I think we have turned a corner.
Although I understand the sentiment. about 2014 i came to a realization that pav was going to retire without a premiership. Heartbreaking stuff.
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We have the talent, we just need the consistency. If it's mental, get a psyche in. If it's physical and we are running out of legs or not quick enough to get started, modify the training techniques. Either way getting some psychology in to our boys, less training and more goal kicking might help us moving forward
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I played a game yesterday where I had a chug of beer every time we missed a tackle. I have not been this hungover in a long time.
After 25 years of producing mostly nothing but mediocrity it’s now that you start thinking that??? We’re once again heading in the right direction!
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My vent is I'm sick of seeing this every week:
Taberner (Ankle) - Test
Bewley (Calf) – 1 week
Banfield (Ankle) – 3 weeks
Hill (Hamstring) – 2-3 weeks
Young (Hamstring) – 3-5 weeks
Frederick (Ankle) – 9-11 weeks
Sturt (Knee) – Season
Chapman (Shoulder) – Season
Hughes (Shoulder) – TBC
Hamling (Ankle) – TBC
+ Logue
+ Swit
+ this week's surprise
(B22 or future B22)
Blame players, blame coaches, blame admin and S&C and/or blame history but it is this which is the source of all of the issues. I like our list generally. We just can't get them all fit at once. And when it's not soft tissue it's contact injuries, and then it's back to soft tissue again...
Playing Port with our best goal kicker out and all but one of our tall backs out against a monster tall lineup is a Fn joke.
Fix this and the young future stars can develop, competition for spots irons out the average efforts, substandard players play for Peel, the remaining stars don't have to push their bodies as hard and are more durable, consistency and synergy develop = much better results.
Eagles are having a cry this season with their injuries affecting their performances and now chances at missing finals. No sh5t, we deal with this EVERY YEAR
Taberner (Ankle) - Test
Bewley (Calf) – 1 week
Banfield (Ankle) – 3 weeks
Hill (Hamstring) – 2-3 weeks
Young (Hamstring) – 3-5 weeks
Frederick (Ankle) – 9-11 weeks
Sturt (Knee) – Season
Chapman (Shoulder) – Season
Hughes (Shoulder) – TBC
Hamling (Ankle) – TBC
+ Logue
+ Swit
+ this week's surprise
(B22 or future B22)
Blame players, blame coaches, blame admin and S&C and/or blame history but it is this which is the source of all of the issues. I like our list generally. We just can't get them all fit at once. And when it's not soft tissue it's contact injuries, and then it's back to soft tissue again...
Playing Port with our best goal kicker out and all but one of our tall backs out against a monster tall lineup is a Fn joke.
Fix this and the young future stars can develop, competition for spots irons out the average efforts, substandard players play for Peel, the remaining stars don't have to push their bodies as hard and are more durable, consistency and synergy develop = much better results.
Eagles are having a cry this season with their injuries affecting their performances and now chances at missing finals. No sh5t, we deal with this EVERY YEAR
It's brutal. I understand the "injury is no excuse" sentiment but it is a warranted excuse albeit a frustrating one. I remember thinking that we are a chance to make the eight provided we have a good run on the injury front and those hopes were dashed before round 1. I would love to know how Melbourne is tracking injury-wise or even how the Hawks fared during their 3-peat years.
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Injuries are a reason - not an excuse IMO. They happen. An excuse is "we didn't turn up on the day" "Our first quarter was trash" "You wanted it more" "Our goal kicking is terrible" "Our S&C department are trash" "It's *your* grand final" etc
Pretty much agree. We're a crap club that I only hope can, one September day before I die, do a 2016 WB and Jag a flag. We don't have the balls to be a good club. We did once when we got Ross and it was the most successful we've ever been. I take joy from good games and good individual performances, but henceforth my opening statement when discussing Freo will be something like "Look, we're a crap club but....'
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I’m willing to admit that Longmuir is a downgrade on Lyon.
As flawed as Ross was, he was a good coach. Every ex player without a chip on their shoulder will tell you that, Kep the latest. For some reason I thought that the club was able enough to pick and choose and find an even better coach, but all we’ve done is pull in someone inoffensive and media friendly, in order to release the pressure valve on the higher ups who couldn’t handle the scrutiny in 2019.
The reality is Ross was doing his best to juggle the mediocrity coming his way from a lot of departments at the club, and throwing an inexperienced coach to the wolves while we still aren’t on top of our list or injury management has not helped and just furthered our decline into irrelevance. Only now we don’t have someone able to stand up for us when we get kicked around by the media.
As flawed as Ross was, he was a good coach. Every ex player without a chip on their shoulder will tell you that, Kep the latest. For some reason I thought that the club was able enough to pick and choose and find an even better coach, but all we’ve done is pull in someone inoffensive and media friendly, in order to release the pressure valve on the higher ups who couldn’t handle the scrutiny in 2019.
The reality is Ross was doing his best to juggle the mediocrity coming his way from a lot of departments at the club, and throwing an inexperienced coach to the wolves while we still aren’t on top of our list or injury management has not helped and just furthered our decline into irrelevance. Only now we don’t have someone able to stand up for us when we get kicked around by the media.
If anything they are on par with equal lists/injuries, we are tracking the same as any of the last 4 years under Ross except maybe we finish stronger unknown yet...
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We are supposed to be tracking better -not the same, 6 years into the rebuild.
At the presser announcing Ross’ sacking, Alcock created a facade that we were a club with expectations for success and that 4 years without finals wasn’t good enough and this was supposedly the primary reason.
But now tracking for 6 years without finals, without the intense scrutiny coming from outside, it’s clear that was all for show. Nobody externally expects Fremantle to do much and as long as that’s the case the admin are just happy to roll along since there’s no witch-hunt currently.
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It tells me that we are doing a LOT right
The big change for me and it’s a massive positive is that if that was a Freo 2016 - 2019 side on Sunday with Logue, Hamling, Pearce, Tabs out, it would’ve been a massive flogging. The way we collected ourselves and actually fought back (something extremely rare during the Lyon years) was very impressive and extremely positive.
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Yup. Clearance work is good. Midfield work is good. Inside 50s are good. Shots per game is good. Conversion rate is poor. Hell, even without our "best" defenders we are doing okay defensively
There’s swings and roundabouts but I wouldn’t say we’re at a net positive.
We might fight it out better, but we start away games in complete disarray compared to that under Ross.
Skills look a bit better, but the pressure and tackling has definitely regressed.
I think this might be a perceptual thing though. I'm sure we could trawl through the 2016-19 era and find examples of undermanned Freo sides getting within 46 points.